EMG's 2016 Mock Draft
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No Korkmaz? really?
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Fischella wrote:No Korkmaz? really?
I havent seen much of him but as of right now yes, I dont have him in the 1st.
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It has been going on 7 months since my first version and I know how eagerly you all have awaited an update so here it is. Enjoy.
Mock V2.0
1. Ben Simmons-76ers
2. Brandon Ingram-Lakers
3. Dragan Bender-Celtics
4. Kris Dunn-Pelicans
5. Henry Ellenson-Timberwolves
6. Skal Labissiere-Suns
7. Jaylen Brown-Nuggets
8. Jamal Murray-Bucks
9. Diamond Stone-Blazers
10. Stephen Zimmerman-Kings
11. Jackob Poetl-Hornets
12. Patrick McCaw-Wizards
13. Ivan Rabb-Raptors
14. Timothe Luwawu-Celtics
15. Dejounte Murray-Jazz
16. Zhou Qi-Nuggets
17. Jonathon Jeanne-Magic
18. Damantas Sabonis-Grizzlies
19. Caris Levert-Pacers
20. Denzel Valentine-Pistons
21. Chieck Diallo-Celtics
22. Buddy Hield-76ers
23. Taurean Prince-Hawks
24. Melo Trimble-Bulls
25. Damian Jones-Raptors
26. Demetrius Jackson-Clippers
27. Malik Newman-76ers
28. Kay Felder-Suns
29. Troy Williams-Spurs
30. Paul Zipser-Warriors
Mock V2.0
1. Ben Simmons-76ers
2. Brandon Ingram-Lakers
3. Dragan Bender-Celtics
4. Kris Dunn-Pelicans
5. Henry Ellenson-Timberwolves
6. Skal Labissiere-Suns
7. Jaylen Brown-Nuggets
8. Jamal Murray-Bucks
9. Diamond Stone-Blazers
10. Stephen Zimmerman-Kings
11. Jackob Poetl-Hornets
12. Patrick McCaw-Wizards
13. Ivan Rabb-Raptors
14. Timothe Luwawu-Celtics
15. Dejounte Murray-Jazz
16. Zhou Qi-Nuggets
17. Jonathon Jeanne-Magic
18. Damantas Sabonis-Grizzlies
19. Caris Levert-Pacers
20. Denzel Valentine-Pistons
21. Chieck Diallo-Celtics
22. Buddy Hield-76ers
23. Taurean Prince-Hawks
24. Melo Trimble-Bulls
25. Damian Jones-Raptors
26. Demetrius Jackson-Clippers
27. Malik Newman-76ers
28. Kay Felder-Suns
29. Troy Williams-Spurs
30. Paul Zipser-Warriors
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EMG518 wrote:5. Henry Ellenson-Timberwolves
6. Skal Labissiere-Suns
9. Diamond Stone-Blazers
10. Stephen Zimmerman-Kings
12. Patrick McCaw-Wizards
28. Kay Felder-Suns
way too high for my taste
doubt Dejounte declares, he has to fix his game a ton.
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Fischella wrote:EMG518 wrote:5. Henry Ellenson-Timberwolves
6. Skal Labissiere-Suns
9. Diamond Stone-Blazers
10. Stephen Zimmerman-Kings
12. Patrick McCaw-Wizards
28. Kay Felder-Suns
way too high for my taste
doubt Dejounte declares, he has to fix his game a ton.
Which guys would you have ahead of them? I wouldnt know who to fill the lottery with if not them.
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EMG518 wrote:Fischella wrote:EMG518 wrote:5. Henry Ellenson-Timberwolves
6. Skal Labissiere-Suns
9. Diamond Stone-Blazers
10. Stephen Zimmerman-Kings
12. Patrick McCaw-Wizards
28. Kay Felder-Suns
way too high for my taste
doubt Dejounte declares, he has to fix his game a ton.
Which guys would you have ahead of them? I wouldnt know who to fill the lottery with if not them.
I don't mind Ellenson at 5, Stone at 9, or Zim at 10. The rest seem like reaches. Skal isn't likely to declare at this point, he's been absolutely brutal. I'm still not sure why half this board seems to be enamored with McCaw, but I don't see it. Felder is fun to watch, but I can't see a guy that size cracking the first round.
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Cammo101 wrote:EMG518 wrote:Fischella wrote:way too high for my taste
doubt Dejounte declares, he has to fix his game a ton.
Which guys would you have ahead of them? I wouldnt know who to fill the lottery with if not them.
I don't mind Ellenson at 5, Stone at 9, or Zim at 10. The rest seem like reaches. Skal isn't likely to declare at this point, he's been absolutely brutal. I'm still not sure why half this board seems to be enamored with McCaw, but I don't see it. Felder is fun to watch, but I can't see a guy that size cracking the first round.
In a draft class like this I find it hard to believe Skal wouldnt declare. If he comes back and doesnt show alot of improvement he could slide and next years class is a stronger class as well. Even with him stinking the place up I cant see him dropping out of the top 10 this year.
I think if this draft was pre Isaiah, Felder wouldnt have a shot at being taken in the 1st round. With Isaiah showing he could play in the league and having some success, its hard in my opinion to look at Felder and think he cant bring some of the same success. Worth a pick at the end of the round in my opinion.
McCaw I havent seen play recently, looks like his numbers have gone down but when I saw him play early in the season he looked a step ahead of everyone on the court. Had real good hands and was constantly pressuring the ball and causing turn overs, has good length and size to match with his skill set.
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EMG518 wrote:Cammo101 wrote:EMG518 wrote:
Which guys would you have ahead of them? I wouldnt know who to fill the lottery with if not them.
I don't mind Ellenson at 5, Stone at 9, or Zim at 10. The rest seem like reaches. Skal isn't likely to declare at this point, he's been absolutely brutal. I'm still not sure why half this board seems to be enamored with McCaw, but I don't see it. Felder is fun to watch, but I can't see a guy that size cracking the first round.
In a draft class like this I find it hard to believe Skal wouldnt declare. If he comes back and doesnt show alot of improvement he could slide and next years class is a stronger class as well. Even with him stinking the place up I cant see him dropping out of the top 10 this year.
It seems like you are assuming he's some lock for the lotto this year, but if he keeps up his brutal play, he may fall into the second round this year...if he declares.
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Cammo101 wrote:EMG518 wrote:Cammo101 wrote:
I don't mind Ellenson at 5, Stone at 9, or Zim at 10. The rest seem like reaches. Skal isn't likely to declare at this point, he's been absolutely brutal. I'm still not sure why half this board seems to be enamored with McCaw, but I don't see it. Felder is fun to watch, but I can't see a guy that size cracking the first round.
In a draft class like this I find it hard to believe Skal wouldnt declare. If he comes back and doesnt show alot of improvement he could slide and next years class is a stronger class as well. Even with him stinking the place up I cant see him dropping out of the top 10 this year.
It seems like you are assuming he's some lock for the lotto this year, but if he keeps up his brutal play, he may fall into the second round this year...if he declares.
I am assuming, the tools are too good in this draft to let slip out of the top 10 in my opinion, regardless of his poor play. He just needs alot of reps and it might take longer than we all had thought.
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EMG518 wrote:Fischella wrote:EMG518 wrote:5. Henry Ellenson-Timberwolves
6. Skal Labissiere-Suns
9. Diamond Stone-Blazers
10. Stephen Zimmerman-Kings
12. Patrick McCaw-Wizards
28. Kay Felder-Suns
way too high for my taste
doubt Dejounte declares, he has to fix his game a ton.
Which guys would you have ahead of them? I wouldnt know who to fill the lottery with if not them.
You can check my board.
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Fischella wrote:EMG518 wrote:Fischella wrote:way too high for my taste
doubt Dejounte declares, he has to fix his game a ton.
Which guys would you have ahead of them? I wouldnt know who to fill the lottery with if not them.
You can check my board.
I am adding your guy Hernangomez to my next mock.
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Mock V3.0
1.Ben Simmons-76ers
2.Brandon Ingram-Lakers
3.Dragan Bender-Celtics
4.Henry Ellenson-Timberwolves
5.Kris Dunn-Suns
6.Jaylen Brown-Pelicans
7.Skal Labissiere-Nuggets
8.Buddy Hield-Bucks
9.Diamond Stone-Blazers
10.Jamal Murray-Jazz
11.Jacob Poetl-Magic
12.Zhou Qi-Hornets
13.Stephen Zimmerman-Raptors
14.Ivan Rabb-Wizards
15.Patrick McCaw-Bulls
16.Timothe Luwawu-Nuggets
17.Troy Williams-Pacers
18.Denzel Valentine-Celtics
19.Melo Trimble-76ers
20.Wade Baldwin-Pistons
21.Chieck Diallo-Celtics
22.Damantas Sabonis-Grizzlies
23.Taurean Prince-Hawks
24.Jonathon Jeanne-Bulls
25.Juan Hernangomez-Raptors
26.Demetrius Jackson-Clippers
27.Damian Jones-Suns
28.Malik Newman-76ers
29.Caris Levert-Spurs
30.Grayson Allen-Warriors
1.Ben Simmons-76ers
2.Brandon Ingram-Lakers
3.Dragan Bender-Celtics
4.Henry Ellenson-Timberwolves
5.Kris Dunn-Suns
6.Jaylen Brown-Pelicans
7.Skal Labissiere-Nuggets
8.Buddy Hield-Bucks
9.Diamond Stone-Blazers
10.Jamal Murray-Jazz
11.Jacob Poetl-Magic
12.Zhou Qi-Hornets
13.Stephen Zimmerman-Raptors
14.Ivan Rabb-Wizards
15.Patrick McCaw-Bulls
16.Timothe Luwawu-Nuggets
17.Troy Williams-Pacers
18.Denzel Valentine-Celtics
19.Melo Trimble-76ers
20.Wade Baldwin-Pistons
21.Chieck Diallo-Celtics
22.Damantas Sabonis-Grizzlies
23.Taurean Prince-Hawks
24.Jonathon Jeanne-Bulls
25.Juan Hernangomez-Raptors
26.Demetrius Jackson-Clippers
27.Damian Jones-Suns
28.Malik Newman-76ers
29.Caris Levert-Spurs
30.Grayson Allen-Warriors
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EMG518 wrote:Mock V3.0
1.Ben Simmons-76ers
2.Brandon Ingram-Lakers
3.Dragan Bender-Celtics
4.Henry Ellenson-Timberwolves
5.Kris Dunn-Suns
6.Jaylen Brown-Pelicans
7.Skal Labissiere-Nuggets
8.Buddy Hield-Bucks
9.Diamond Stone-Blazers
10.Jamal Murray-Jazz
11.Jacob Poetl-Magic
12.Zhou Qi-Hornets
13.Stephen Zimmerman-Raptors
14.Ivan Rabb-Wizards
15.Patrick McCaw-Bulls
16.Timothe Luwawu-Nuggets
17.Troy Williams-Pacers
18.Denzel Valentine-Celtics
19.Melo Trimble-76ers
20.Wade Baldwin-Pistons
21.Chieck Diallo-Celtics
22.Damantas Sabonis-Grizzlies
23.Taurean Prince-Hawks
24.Jonathon Jeanne-Bulls
25.Juan Hernangomez-Raptors
26.Demetrius Jackson-Clippers
27.Damian Jones-Suns
28.Malik Newman-76ers
29.Caris Levert-Spurs
30.Paul Zipser-Warriors
Why would Orlando draft Vuv JR with Rabb still on the boards?
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Magic_Johnny12 wrote:Why would Orlando draft Vuv JR with Rabb still on the boards?
Better prospect and a better fit.
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Mock V4.0
1.Ben Simmons-76ers
2.Brandon Ingram-Lakers
3.Dragan Bender-Celtics
4.Diamond Stone-Suns
5.Skal Labissiere-Timberwolves
6.Buddy Hield-Pelicans
7.Jamal Murray-Bucks
8.Jaylen Brown-Nuggets
9.Kris Dunn-Kings
10.Henry Ellenson-Magic
11.Ivan Rabb-Raptors
12.Jacob Poetl-Wizards
13.Timothe Luwawau-Blazers
14.Zhou Qi-Hornets
15.Wade Baldwin-Jazz
16.Stephen Zimmerman-Nuggets
17.Caris Levert-Pacers
18.Damian Jones-Celtics
19.Denzel Valentine-Pistons
20.Melo Trimble-Bulls
21.Demetrius Jackson-76ers
22.Dejounte Murray-Hawks
23.Juan Hernangomez-Celtics
24.Domantas Sabonis-Grizzlies
25.Juwan Evans-Clippers
26.Petr Cornelie-Raptors
27.Troy Williams-Suns
28.Furkan Korkmaz-76ers
29.Isaia Cordinier-Spurs
30.Patrick McCaw-Warriors
1.Ben Simmons-76ers
2.Brandon Ingram-Lakers
3.Dragan Bender-Celtics
4.Diamond Stone-Suns
5.Skal Labissiere-Timberwolves
6.Buddy Hield-Pelicans
7.Jamal Murray-Bucks
8.Jaylen Brown-Nuggets
9.Kris Dunn-Kings
10.Henry Ellenson-Magic
11.Ivan Rabb-Raptors
12.Jacob Poetl-Wizards
13.Timothe Luwawau-Blazers
14.Zhou Qi-Hornets
15.Wade Baldwin-Jazz
16.Stephen Zimmerman-Nuggets
17.Caris Levert-Pacers
18.Damian Jones-Celtics
19.Denzel Valentine-Pistons
20.Melo Trimble-Bulls
21.Demetrius Jackson-76ers
22.Dejounte Murray-Hawks
23.Juan Hernangomez-Celtics
24.Domantas Sabonis-Grizzlies
25.Juwan Evans-Clippers
26.Petr Cornelie-Raptors
27.Troy Williams-Suns
28.Furkan Korkmaz-76ers
29.Isaia Cordinier-Spurs
30.Patrick McCaw-Warriors
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EMG518 wrote:Mock V4.0
1.Ben Simmons-76ers
2.Brandon Ingram-Lakers
3.Dragan Bender-Celtics
4.Diamond Stone-Suns
5.Skal Labissiere-Timberwolves
6.Kris Dunn-Pelicans
7.Buddy Hield-Bucks
8.Jaylen Brown-Nuggets
9.Henry Ellenson-Kings
10.Jamal Murray-Magic
11.Ivan Rabb-Raptors
12.Jacob Poetl-Wizards
13.Timothe Luwawau-Blazers
14.Zhou Qi-Hornets
15.Wade Baldwin-Jazz
16.Stephen Zimmerman-Nuggets
17.Caris Levert-Pacers
18.Damian Jones-Celtics
19.Denzel Valentine-Pistons
20.Melo Trimble-Bulls
21.Demetrius Jackson-76ers
22.Taurean Prince-Hawks
23.Juan Hernangomez-Celtics
24.Domantas Sabonis-Grizzlies
25.Juwan Evans-Clippers
26.Jonathan Jeanne-Raptors
27.-Petr Cornelie-Suns
28.Furkan Korkmaz-76ers
29.Grayson Allen-Spurs
30.Troy Williams-Warriors
I think stones is way too high, Skal shouldn't even go in the first round, noway Poeltl drops out of the top 10, Qi isn't a mid first round pick and he probably wont come over for a few years.. and Korkmaz is insanely low
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I think stones is way too high, Skal shouldn't even go in the first round, noway Poeltl drops out of the top 10, Qi isn't a mid first round pick and he probably wont come over for a few years.. and Korkmaz is insanely low
I figured that would definitely be one of the things pointed out, Stone being too high that is. There seems to be a consensus top 3 being formed, after that it feels very up in the air to me. I think Dunn is being billed as that next guy but I think his shooting capabilities are a real knock and the Suns already have Bledsoe, Knight, and Goodwin. It just seems like overkill there with Dunn. Maybe the Suns take Brown but at the moment he isnt any better than Dunn at shooting, I do believe he will have the better shot long term but again I dont see them going that direction. I think Stone is being overlooked at the moment, I think he is going to be a good defender at the next level and is has a good developing skill set for a big. Has a nice touch as well. With Tyson Chandler a shell of himself and Alex Len not developing into the player they had hoped, I think they go with a big here and I think he fits the bill the best.
On Skal not going in the first round, he is just behind the curve development wise. He hasnt been playing basketball that long and bigs usually take longer to develop as it is. The tools though are there, he was in the running for the #1 pick coming into the season for a reason. He flashes everything you would want, just needs to get more reps, become more consistent and hit the gym. His upside is hard to pass up for some of these other players you would be looking at in my opinon.
I like Poetl but I do believe he is being overrated. I just dont see the tools to justify being picked where many are projecting him. He doesnt project to me to be a very good defender at the next level which is the only way I could bump him up, he does have a nice skill set for a big though. To me you are drafting a guy whom will develop into a starter but is not going to be anything more than that.
Qi has insane length and a really impressive skill set to boot. I think he will actually be drafted higher than a mid 1st once teams start seeing him state side. He needs to hit the gym and start eating but the length is really rare and when coupled with the skill set, he is very intriguing.
Korkmaz I have seen play once at the FIBA's over the summer and I was just not impressed. I dont see him doing anyhing to really distinguish himself from many of the other players ahead of him.
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Rabb fits much better than Stone with PHX
Skal upside is not that high, he is a face-up big that cant rebound or defend in the post, his upside is Channing Frye with a tad more rim protection and worst in 1on1 (less strength).
Skal upside is not that high, he is a face-up big that cant rebound or defend in the post, his upside is Channing Frye with a tad more rim protection and worst in 1on1 (less strength).
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Fischella wrote:Rabb fits much better than Stone with PHX
Skal upside is not that high, he is a face-up big that cant rebound or defend in the post, his upside is Channing Frye with a tad more rim protection and worst in 1on1 (less strength).
Its not all about fit, Rabb is not the prospect that Stone is in my opinion and isnt worth consideration at 4. I wouldnt even take him in the lottery but that is just me.
As far as Skals upside not being that high, there really arent many players with his physical capabilities and the ability to have a face up game. Channing Frye in no way compared to what Skal can bring because of his physical limitations. Skal in a few years once getting in many reps and hitting the gym could be a really good defender in all aspects. He has the body and the athleticism.
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Mock V5.0
1.Brandon Ingram-76ers
2.Ben Simmons-Lakers
3.Skal Labissiere-Suns
4.Dragan Bender-Celtics
5.Jaylen Brown-Timberwolves
6.Henry Ellenson-Pelicans
7.Buddy Hield-Kings
8.Jamal Murray-Nuggets
9.Diamond Stone-Raptors
10.Jacob Poetl-Bucks
11.Kris Dunn-Magic
12.Timothe Luwawau-Jazz
13.Ivan Rabb-Suns
14.Denzel Valentine-Pistons
15.Zhou Qi-Nuggets
16.Juan Hernangomez-Celtics
17.Demetrius Jackson-Bulls
18.Stephen Zimmerman-Nuggets
19.Caris Levert-Pacers
20.Damian Jones-Hornets
21.Dejounte Murray-Hawks
22.Wade Baldwin-76ers
23.Domantas Sabonis-Grizzlies
24.Troy Williams-Celtics
25.Melo Trimble-Clippers
26.Taurean Prince-Raptors
27.Furkan Korkmaz-76ers
28.Marquese Chriss-Suns
29.Isaia Cordinier-Spurs
30.Grayson Allen-Warriors
1.Brandon Ingram-76ers
2.Ben Simmons-Lakers
3.Skal Labissiere-Suns
4.Dragan Bender-Celtics
5.Jaylen Brown-Timberwolves
6.Henry Ellenson-Pelicans
7.Buddy Hield-Kings
8.Jamal Murray-Nuggets
9.Diamond Stone-Raptors
10.Jacob Poetl-Bucks
11.Kris Dunn-Magic
12.Timothe Luwawau-Jazz
13.Ivan Rabb-Suns
14.Denzel Valentine-Pistons
15.Zhou Qi-Nuggets
16.Juan Hernangomez-Celtics
17.Demetrius Jackson-Bulls
18.Stephen Zimmerman-Nuggets
19.Caris Levert-Pacers
20.Damian Jones-Hornets
21.Dejounte Murray-Hawks
22.Wade Baldwin-76ers
23.Domantas Sabonis-Grizzlies
24.Troy Williams-Celtics
25.Melo Trimble-Clippers
26.Taurean Prince-Raptors
27.Furkan Korkmaz-76ers
28.Marquese Chriss-Suns
29.Isaia Cordinier-Spurs
30.Grayson Allen-Warriors
