Oklahoma City Thunder Regular Season 2015-2016 Part 2

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Re: Oklahoma City Thunder Regular Season 2015-2016 Part 2 

Post#1921 » by NaturalThunder » Thu Jan 14, 2016 1:14 am

And McGee drains a 20-footer. So there's that.
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Coxy wrote:I think with a PG like George Hill, they'd be better than current.
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Post#1922 » by bondom34 » Thu Jan 14, 2016 1:15 am

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Teammates and team defense must have an impact on this statistic as well.

I'm seeing Steph Curry has better defense than Russell Westbrook. Am I reading that right?

This is obviously a skewed statistic as well.

Green - #3
Curry - #5
Thompson - #21
Iguodala - #70??

So, tell me, why is this statistic so good and so telling about a players defensive impact?

They don't. RAPM is a form of adjusted plus minus, it takes into account teammates and opponents and how good they are. It basically tells you Player X is Y points above/below average per 100 possessions in their given role.

Curry is a solid/average defender. The Curry is a bad defender meme is almost as bad as the Russ is a bad defender one. Team defense does not effect this, but good defenders are usually shown quickly. Green is the cog in that defense btw, no doubt about it.

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http://godismyjudgeok.com/DStats/2011/nba-stats/a-review-of-adjusted-plusminus-and-stabilization/

I think it's important to note that team defense isn't supposed to effect RAPM. IMO there are demonstrable collinearity effects. It's not enough to discredit the stat, but it does need to be used in conjunction with other stats too. Fortunately for Curry, everything paints the same picture, he is a very solid team defender.

It has issues for sure, but you generally don't get to be worst in the league by improving. And in general you can read it both ways, the good players are there because they're good, making the team good. You don't take these as absolutes, but you don't do that with anything.
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Re: Oklahoma City Thunder Regular Season 2015-2016 Part 2 

Post#1923 » by getrichordie » Thu Jan 14, 2016 1:29 am

Nice to see Singler get some minutes! #FREESINGLER #UNLEASHTHESINGLER

Nice shooting by Ibaka.

Yawn. This game is already over, and I'm sure that's how our guys feel.

Roberson hustling.

Westbrook missing first two freethrows? Not a good start.

It would have been nice to west KD, WB, Serge and see how our guys do vs DAL. I wouldn't be mad at that.
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Post#1924 » by KD35Brah » Thu Jan 14, 2016 1:37 am

Mind **** blwon

Singler immediately fouls a 3pt shooter....
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Post#1925 » by NaturalThunder » Thu Jan 14, 2016 1:41 am

Singler, at 6'8" or 6'9", blows a wide-open layup and gets beat on the offensive glass by a player 5 inches shorter than him.
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Coxy wrote:I think with a PG like George Hill, they'd be better than current.
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Post#1926 » by KD35Brah » Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:01 am

Russ just missed 4 straight FTs
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Post#1927 » by NaturalThunder » Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:01 am

Make that four missed FTs for Westbrook tonight. We'd be up bu 20 if he was just 3/4.
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Post#1928 » by KD35Brah » Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:04 am

Ibaka had 8 rebounds tonight, more than the past 2 games combined.
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Post#1929 » by ThadMan » Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:09 am

This is what happens when the thunder plays with some emotion. They look like they actually care tonight
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Post#1930 » by KD35Brah » Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:12 am

Westbrook then gets himself ejected, **** man
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Post#1931 » by KD35Brah » Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:13 am

JJ definitely should have been ejected.
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Post#1932 » by ThadMan » Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:13 am

Too much emotion....
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Post#1933 » by spearsy23 » Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:16 am

Gonna see lots of Cam I guess...
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Post#1934 » by KD35Brah » Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:16 am

Payne guarding Felton...
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Post#1935 » by KD35Brah » Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:18 am

Team is already imploding...
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Post#1936 » by NaturalThunder » Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:19 am

That wasn't technical worthy. But after the scrum earlier, the refs are going to call quick Ts. Barea, once again, wouldn't let go of Westbrook. Now, Russ shouldn't have reacted because he had to be aware of the refs temperament after the scrum earlier, but still.
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Coxy wrote:I think with a PG like George Hill, they'd be better than current.
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Post#1937 » by NaturalThunder » Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:27 am

This also means Russ will finish with 0 points tonight.
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Post#1938 » by KD35Brah » Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:47 am

Payne is such a great passer.
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Post#1939 » by TheBeardedMan » Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:47 am

Charlie Villanueva & J.J Barea are some dirty motha-F***as!
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Post#1940 » by KD35Brah » Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:59 am

Not sure why DJ is in for Payne

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