Kings vs Pelicans | Jan 13, 2016

[PaKwAn]

karl keeps preaching about defense blah blah blah,then refuses to play his players that actually play defense..the defensive philosophy that karl has instilled with this team is just way too awful.. his ideal lineups are also one of the worst out there.. poor adjustment from this old guy... the players need to give it out there all every game now if they even want to be in the playoffs.. the jazz is clearly a better team,and i have a hard time seeing us to steal that 8th spot... for a team filled with veteran players,I'm still puzzled at how they haven't adjusted yet..same goes with coach karl, this old fart hasn't adjusted all season...

[Prethia]

I dont know how Belinelli can play in every match when he is defending like that and shooting like that.I wont even mention + -.At least make Curry play instead of him,he tries to defend and I am sure if he shoot as much as Belinelli he could have same or maybe better ppg than Belinelli.
And again, I hate the fact that we have the most talented big(by far) in the league and he uses eight 3 pointers,30 total shot attempts with nearly %40 and has four turnovers.When you have a guy like that it really kills the passion of team to play basketball.I was criticizing Kobe for this in his last years but Cousins is going to be even worse if he continues like this.

Fire Karl,trade Belineli,find someone who will stop Cousins from crying or trade him also.He can score 30+ like this but it doesnt do us any good.Thats what I meant by him being a stat freak and he is just talk in terms of wanting to win.I would even prefer Rondo having a usage rate of %35 instead Cousins while Cuz is playing like this

[eckles]

Need a defensive minded coach and a fresh new trade.

Hopefully with Utah

[Wolfay]

Cousins outside game is on or off, not consistent at all

Karl is a past prime coach that is a hindrance to the team

Yea it's Karl's fault. How DARE we expect grown men to be responsible for their own behavior. If Cousins murders a man, it should be Karl going to prison

Man, you're such a Karl apologist. The dude has, and always will be, a loser. Every team he's ever coached has underachieved.

Cousins needs to be in the post and he needs a coach that demands that he be in the post. Either (a) Karl is content with him jacking jumpers (which makes it Karl's fault) or (b) Karl has such little control of the team that despite his efforts to put Cousins in the paint, Cousins won't listen (which again makes it Karl's fault).

An ad hominem doesn't refute my point. Try again, but I don't think you can, because you know I'm right. This has nothing to do with Karl and everything to do with the players on the team stepping up as men, and being held accountable. If they can't, then they're simply not men. They're children.

[bleeds_purple]

Yea it's Karl's fault. How DARE we expect grown men to be responsible for their own behavior. If Cousins murders a man, it should be Karl going to prison

Man, you're such a Karl apologist. The dude has, and always will be, a loser. Every team he's ever coached has underachieved.

Cousins needs to be in the post and he needs a coach that demands that he be in the post. Either (a) Karl is content with him jacking jumpers (which makes it Karl's fault) or (b) Karl has such little control of the team that despite his efforts to put Cousins in the paint, Cousins won't listen (which again makes it Karl's fault).

An ad hominem doesn't refute my point. Try again, but I don't think you can, because you know I'm right. This has nothing to do with Karl and everything to do with the players on the team stepping up as men, and being held accountable. If they can't, then they're simply not men. They're children.

Your response is rather odd, considering I refuted your point directly in my prior comment. I bolded it for you incase you missed it. Players are simply not accountable for implementing a team's strategy. Well, unless you're Peyton Manning.

[Kings2013]

Yea it's Karl's fault. How DARE we expect grown men to be responsible for their own behavior. If Cousins murders a man, it should be Karl going to prison

Man, you're such a Karl apologist. The dude has, and always will be, a loser. Every team he's ever coached has underachieved.

Cousins needs to be in the post and he needs a coach that demands that he be in the post. Either (a) Karl is content with him jacking jumpers (which makes it Karl's fault) or (b) Karl has such little control of the team that despite his efforts to put Cousins in the paint, Cousins won't listen (which again makes it Karl's fault).

An ad hominem doesn't refute my point. Try again, but I don't think you can, because you know I'm right. This has nothing to do with Karl and everything to do with the players on the team stepping up as men, and being held accountable. If they can't, then they're simply not men. They're children.

Half the battle of a coach IS inspiring/directing guys to play for you. Having an old/mellow coach and having the team having to self police itself psychologically/emotionally can lead to uninspired play at times IMO

[SacKingZZZ]

Anybody that actually watches this knows what this team has done when playing the opposite direction of the supposed desires of the coaching staff vs. the "system". The battle rages on I guess.

[Nicky Nix Nook]

Why, game after game, can we not defend the pick and roll. It feels like it's an automatic opportunity for the other team any time they run it. And there's never an adjustment.

[Wolfay]

Man, you're such a Karl apologist. The dude has, and always will be, a loser. Every team he's ever coached has underachieved.

Cousins needs to be in the post and he needs a coach that demands that he be in the post. Either (a) Karl is content with him jacking jumpers (which makes it Karl's fault) or (b) Karl has such little control of the team that despite his efforts to put Cousins in the paint, Cousins won't listen (which again makes it Karl's fault).

An ad hominem doesn't refute my point. Try again, but I don't think you can, because you know I'm right. This has nothing to do with Karl and everything to do with the players on the team stepping up as men, and being held accountable. If they can't, then they're simply not men. They're children.

Your response is rather odd, considering I refuted your point directly in my prior comment. I bolded it for you incase you missed it. Players are simply not accountable for implementing a team's strategy. Well, unless you're Peyton Manning.

So someone who breaks the law, it's not the lawbreaker's fault, it's the law's fault. Get your child logic out of here.

Of course it's the players responsible for implementing the strategy. THEY'RE THE ONES PLAYING. It ain't Karl or any other coach on the floor playing.

[bleeds_purple]

So someone who breaks the law, it's not the lawbreaker's fault, it's the law's fault. Get your child logic out of here.

Of course it's the players responsible for implementing the strategy. THEY'RE THE ONES PLAYING. It ain't Karl or any other coach on the floor playing.

Frankly, that is one of the worst analogies I've ever seen, heard, or read.

Its funny to me that you think players implement strategy. How can someone possibly come to that conclusion. I suppose when we were posting up every possession under Malone that was the player's decision? And now they've miraculously decided sua sponte to change strategies once Malone was fired.

If Cousins is standing at the three point line all game and Karl doesn't want that doesn't that say a little bit about Karl's abilities as a leader? More likely of course, is that Cousin's positioning on the floor is part of Karl's game plan.

Moreover, did you miss the part where I said the rotations are horrible? I guess you will now say the players decide if and when to substitute themselves.

I blame the players for lack of effort and lack of professionalism. I blame the coach for strategy and substitutions. One would think that allocation of responsibility would be undisputed.

[City of Trees]

So someone who breaks the law, it's not the lawbreaker's fault, it's the law's fault. Get your child logic out of here.

Of course it's the players responsible for implementing the strategy. THEY'RE THE ONES PLAYING. It ain't Karl or any other coach on the floor playing.

Frankly, that is one of the worst analogies I've ever seen, heard, or read.

Its funny to me that you think players implement strategy. How can someone possibly come to that conclusion. I suppose when we were posting up every possession under Malone that was the player's decision? And now they've miraculously decided sua sponte to change strategies once Malone was fired.

If Cousins is standing at the three point line all game and Karl doesn't want that doesn't that say a little bit about Karl's abilities as a leader? More likely of course, is that Cousin's positioning on the floor is part of Karl's game plan.

Moreover, did you miss the part where I said the rotations are horrible? I guess you will now say the players decide if and when to substitute themselves.

I blame the players for lack of effort and lack of professionalism. I blame the coach for strategy and substitutions. One would think that allocation of responsibility would be undisputed.

I agree with this

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[codydaze]

An ad hominem doesn't refute my point. Try again, but I don't think you can, because you know I'm right. This has nothing to do with Karl and everything to do with the players on the team stepping up as men, and being held accountable. If they can't, then they're simply not men. They're children.

Your response is rather odd, considering I refuted your point directly in my prior comment. I bolded it for you incase you missed it. Players are simply not accountable for implementing a team's strategy. Well, unless you're Peyton Manning.

So someone who breaks the law, it's not the lawbreaker's fault, it's the law's fault. Get your child logic out of here.

Of course it's the players responsible for implementing the strategy. THEY'RE THE ONES PLAYING. It ain't Karl or any other coach on the floor playing.

So by your logic, what is the point of even having a coach?

[SacKingZZZ]

Why, game after game, can we not defend the pick and roll. It feels like it's an automatic opportunity for the other team any time they run it. And there's never an adjustment.

Coach Karl has the right idea (switching), but apparently no idea about the correlation between the lineups he places on the floor and their ability to pull it off.

The first quarter in the Jazz game was all the proof you need to know that they can switch and if not switch at least play aggressively and show way out and have it be effective.

[bleeds_purple]

Why, game after game, can we not defend the pick and roll. It feels like it's an automatic opportunity for the other team any time they run it. And there's never an adjustment.

Coach Karl has the right idea (switching), but apparently no idea about the correlation between the lineups he places on the floor and their ability to pull it off.

The first quarter in the Jazz game was all the proof you need to know that they can switch and if not switch at least play aggressively and show way out and have it be effective.

The part that bugs me is we can consistently run out lineups that are super long and, at least on paper, amazingly good at switching.

Malone used to play Rudy at the two a lot and those lineups were great. I would like to see a return to that. Play some freaking bully ball. Rondo(Collison)/Gay/Casspi(Butler)/WCS(Acy)/Cousins(Koufos). Our SGs are playing like dog ****. Yet his answer is to play more PGs. I'd go the opposite direction. I'm not suggesting we don't play any of our SGs at all but at least try some of these lineups with them playing so poorly.

[Wolfay]

So someone who breaks the law, it's not the lawbreaker's fault, it's the law's fault. Get your child logic out of here.

Of course it's the players responsible for implementing the strategy. THEY'RE THE ONES PLAYING. It ain't Karl or any other coach on the floor playing.

Frankly, that is one of the worst analogies I've ever seen, heard, or read.

Its funny to me that you think players implement strategy. How can someone possibly come to that conclusion. I suppose when we were posting up every possession under Malone that was the player's decision? And now they've miraculously decided sua sponte to change strategies once Malone was fired.

If Cousins is standing at the three point line all game and Karl doesn't want that doesn't that say a little bit about Karl's abilities as a leader? More likely of course, is that Cousin's positioning on the floor is part of Karl's game plan.

Moreover, did you miss the part where I said the rotations are horrible? I guess you will now say the players decide if and when to substitute themselves.

I blame the players for lack of effort and lack of professionalism. I blame the coach for strategy and substitutions. One would think that allocation of responsibility would be undisputed.

Maybe "implement" is not the word I should have used. Execution is what I meant. That is the player's responsibility, no doubt about it. Too bad execution and responsibility aren't in their vocabulary.

We can talk about rotations once at least 8 guys on the team can give a consistent effort. It's not so much a rotation as it is trying to find a guy on the roster who gives a damn that night.

Anyway, if the players don't want to listen to a career winner, a man who has the respect of the entire worldwide basketball community, a future Hall of Famer, that says a lot more about the players than Coach Karl. Know-it-alls who know nothing, and of course that's the case because Karl says as much on radio with Grant nearly everyday. Cousins standing lazily on the perimeter of course isn't the game plan. It's the dribble-drive, not the dribble-stand, or the dribble-complain. Speaking of which, also not part of the game plan is his childish whining after he clearly fouls a guy. If the former isn't a clear enough example of Cousins' immature understanding of accountability, than maybe this is. Cousins can't even take responsibility for a simple foul! We see it a few times every night! Grant and Jerry even point it out for you! On replay! I guess you'll blame Karl for that, but it's not like I'm throwing hard concepts at you, or even pretentious uses of latin that you only hear in a courtroom.

[bleeds_purple]

So someone who breaks the law, it's not the lawbreaker's fault, it's the law's fault. Get your child logic out of here.

Of course it's the players responsible for implementing the strategy. THEY'RE THE ONES PLAYING. It ain't Karl or any other coach on the floor playing.

Frankly, that is one of the worst analogies I've ever seen, heard, or read.

Its funny to me that you think players implement strategy. How can someone possibly come to that conclusion. I suppose when we were posting up every possession under Malone that was the player's decision? And now they've miraculously decided sua sponte to change strategies once Malone was fired.

If Cousins is standing at the three point line all game and Karl doesn't want that doesn't that say a little bit about Karl's abilities as a leader? More likely of course, is that Cousin's positioning on the floor is part of Karl's game plan.

Moreover, did you miss the part where I said the rotations are horrible? I guess you will now say the players decide if and when to substitute themselves.

I blame the players for lack of effort and lack of professionalism. I blame the coach for strategy and substitutions. One would think that allocation of responsibility would be undisputed.

Maybe "implement" is not the word I should have used. Execution is what I meant. That is the player's responsibility, no doubt about it. Too bad execution and responsibility aren't in their vocabulary.

We can talk about rotations once at least 8 guys on the team can give a consistent effort. It's not so much a rotation as it is trying to find a guy on the roster who gives a damn that night.

Anyway, if the players don't want to listen to a career winner, a man who has the respect of the entire worldwide basketball community, a future Hall of Famer, that says a lot more about the players than Coach Karl. Know-it-alls who know nothing, and of course that's the case because Karl says as much on radio with Grant nearly everyday. Cousins standing lazily on the perimeter of course isn't the game plan. It's the dribble-drive, not the dribble-stand, or the dribble-complain. Speaking of which, also not part of the game plan is his childish whining after he clearly fouls a guy. If the former isn't a clear enough example of Cousins' immature understanding of accountability, than maybe this is. Cousins can't even take responsibility for a simple foul! We see it a few times every night! Grant and Jerry even point it out for you! On replay! I guess you'll blame Karl for that, but it's not like I'm throwing hard concepts at you, or even pretentious uses of latin that you only hear in a courtroom.

Certainly the players are suppose to execute. But let me ask you, do you think the plan right now is maximizing the roster? You say Cousins whines but so do most players. LeBron probably whines more than Cousins but I never see the media call him out. Why is that? It all comes down to winning at the end of the day.

When a good coach sees his players are not giving effort he benches them. Some, like Popovich, may even go to the extreme of benching the entire starting 5 a few minutes into the game. Something I've seen him do on multiple occasions.

You might see Karl as a career winner but I've always seen him as a loser. I've thought that well before he ever came to Sacramento. To me he was always the underachiever who did not have a good system. His team's tempo was always way too fast for my liking. And none of his teams ever seemed to care about defense. His teams consistently underachieved in the playoffs.

Do you honestly believe its a good idea to have Cousins drive from the three point line? Every time he does its either a steal, near steal, or he barrels down the middle out of control. Comparatively, when he drives from midrange its a quick one/two dribbles into a shot. It makes a world of difference.

At the end of the day there are obvious problems with many of our players. The thing is however, these problems are difficult to solve as the are personality and playstyle related. The coaching stuff on the other hand, is quite easy to solve. It doesn't take a change of personality to not have terrible rotations. It doesn't take much to realize you should stop playing two PGs when the other team's SG is abusing the matchup. It doesn't take much to realize the best center in the league should not be at the three point line, whether its to shoot or drive. These are just basic things that the majority of posters on this board complain about every game. If we all see it, why can't he?