Defensive Rankings by Position....1st Up: Shortstop

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Defensive Rankings by Position....1st Up: Shortstop 

Post#1 » by Da Schwab » Wed Jun 27, 2007 1:04 am

Opinion based, but we can all still badger each other about our choices.

AL

1. Jhonny Peralta- Cleveland
2. Yuniesky Betancourt- Seattle
3. Orlando Cabrera- LAA
4. Derek Jeter- NYY
5. Bobby Crosby- Oakland
6. Jason Bartlett- Minnesota
7. Miguel Tejada- Baltimore (Granted he's on the DL right now)
8. Carlos Guillen- Detroit
9. Tony Pena- Kansas City
10. Royce Clayton- Toronto
11. Mike Young- Texas
12. Juan Uribe- Chicago
13. Julio Lugo- Boston
14. Ben Zobrist- Tampa Bay



NL

1. Jack Wilson- Pittsburgh
2. Omar Vizquel- San Francisco
3. Jose Reyes- NYM
4. Jimmy Rollins- Philadelphia
5. Hanley Ramirez- Florida
6. Edgar Renteria- Atlanta
7. Troy Tulowitzki- Colorado
8. Alex Gonzalez- Cincinnati
9. JJ Hardy- Milwaukee
10. Rafael Furcal- LAD
11. Cesar Izturis- Chicago
12. Khalil Greene- San Diego
13. Stephen Drew- Arizona
14. Adam Everett- Houston
15. Cristian Guzman- Washington (Just had thumb surgery, out for season)
16. David Eckstein- St. Louis


Tear this up, agree with it..... whatever you please.

The other positions will be posted in the coming days.
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Post#2 » by treyZz » Wed Jun 27, 2007 1:06 am

JJ Hardy @ #9??

He had a 4 error game against the Cubs I believe this year.
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Post#3 » by bigboy1234 » Wed Jun 27, 2007 1:31 am

14. Adam Everett- Houston

Theres only one reason why this guy has a job in the MLB, and I'll give you a hint it's not his bat.
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Post#4 » by B Mac » Wed Jun 27, 2007 1:55 am

Jhonny Peralta is at the top of the list???? When exactly did Peralta become good defensively? He's been tons better than last year, but still doesnt have near the range or soft hands to be considered near the top of the list, and I love Jhonny.
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Post#5 » by Modern_epic » Wed Jun 27, 2007 2:13 am

Toronto's shortstop is more often John McDonald than Royce Clayton.
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Post#6 » by dbenton » Wed Jun 27, 2007 2:14 am

Bobby Crosby has to be in the top three at least. The top three in the National League could go either way, but mine would be Reyes, Vizquel and Wilson.

Also, how can Furcal be No. 10? He does have some weaknesses in his game, but his arm is the best in either league.
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Post#7 » by 34Celtic » Wed Jun 27, 2007 2:37 am

Lol torn to shreads is right....
Everett, Izturis, Furcal, Tulowitzki deserve to be ranked higher

Jhonny and Guillen are ranked too high in the AL

Everett deserves to be higher

Brendan Harris is Tampas shortstop

Oh and Everett should be higher.
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Post#8 » by trwi7 » Wed Jun 27, 2007 2:54 am

treyZz wrote:JJ Hardy @ #9??

He had a 4 error game against the Cubs I believe this year.


A blip on the radar. Hardy is a very good defensive SS.
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Post#9 » by 34Celtic » Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:09 am

NL

Izturis
Tulowitzki
Wilson
Everett
Furcal
K Greene
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Post#10 » by treyZz » Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:18 am

trwi7 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



A blip on the radar. Hardy is a very good defensive SS.


I haven't seen him much so I wasn't sure that's why I was put the question mark. I believe you though.

Izturis has a wicked good glove and should be higher IMO - It's just too bad he can't hit.
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Post#11 » by RaoulDuke79 » Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:45 am

bigboy1234 wrote:
14. Adam Everett- Houston

Theres only one reason why this guy has a job in the MLB, and I'll give you a hint it's not his bat.


Indeed, he should be way higher, he is an incredibly good defensive player. If only he could hit :(
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Post#12 » by High 5 » Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:23 am

Furcal's arm alone should put him in the top 5. But I haven't watched him much since he left Atlanta, so maybe he isn't as good anymore.
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Post#13 » by mets87 » Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:36 am

cabrera in the AL, reyes in the NL
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Post#14 » by 34Celtic » Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:21 pm

mets87 wrote:cabrera in the AL, reyes in the NL


Reyes has above average range and an above average arm. However, I don't think he's as good as Tulowitzki, Wilson, Everett, Reyes, Izturis, or even Vizquel for that matter
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Post#15 » by 34Celtic » Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:23 pm

/\ Bball Jesus, take a look at this rank. I did those rankings and then found this stat....I got 5 of the top 6, only Izturis is dead last. Yikes. My eyes I guess are pretty good.
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Post#16 » by Basketball Jesus » Wed Jun 27, 2007 1:02 pm

Defense is the only facet of the game where I will trust my eyes equally as I do statistics, mostly because nearly every defensive metric is somewhat flawed. Not that I won
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Post#17 » by 34Celtic » Wed Jun 27, 2007 1:55 pm

Basketball Jesus wrote:Defense is the only facet of the game where I will trust my eyes equally as I do statistics, mostly because nearly every defensive metric is somewhat flawed. Not that I won
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Post#18 » by Da Schwab » Wed Jun 27, 2007 2:00 pm

I started this thread so people would actually put up their rankings and tear up my rankings.

So everybody stop complaining so much and put your 30 up there.

I was really hoping to see your list BBJ, so if you could complete one, I'd be very pleased.
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Post#19 » by GYBE » Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:28 pm

NL

Adam Everett
Jack Wilson
Omar Vizquel
Troy Tulowitzki
Jose Reyes

Don't watch enough of the AL.

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Post#20 » by 34Celtic » Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:43 pm

You ask and you shall receive...

AL
Orlando Cabrera
Betancourt
Jeter
John Mcdonald
Michael Young
Juan Uribe
Tony Pena
Bobby Crosby
Jason Bartlett
Miguel Tejada
Tony Pena
Jhonny Perhalta
Julio Lugo
Carlos Guillen
Brendan Harris

NL
Izturis
Tulowitzki
Wilson
Everett
Vizquel
Furcal
K Greene
A Gonzalez
Reyes
H Ramirez
J Rollins
Eckstein
S Drew
JJ Hardy
Edgar Renteria
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Cristian Guzman who doesnt count because he's hurt
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