Trade Deadline Countdown....What will we do? What should we do?

[King4Day]

Doubt Jazz would trade Hayward for a PG.
They need a PG NEXT to Hayward.

No way they trade with suns without Booker going back there. Id do it personally... Hayward is 25 and would boost the IQ and play making for the Suns.

But still missing pieces to contend so I would keep all the youngins instead.



I would trade Knight, Tucker, Morris for Ibaka, filler and a future pick however.

Ibaka is a great talent. Unfortunately there is no way the thunder trade him this year, however in the offseason if durant walks id be calling up about Ibaka asap. It may even be worth holding on to morris for the deal. A basic deal around Morris cavs pick, heat picks, our own protected pick for Ibaka would help us push for playoffs and let the thunder rebuild/tank. 2016 -17 season we roll out Bledsoe-Booker-Warren-Ibaka-Chandler with a bench of Knight-bogdan-tucker-goodwin-len-2016 pick.

Is Ibaka having that bad of a year? I haven't seen any Thunder games or followed their statlines. I figure they would be open to moving him for the right piece since the run with Durant has been a mess. I wonder what they'd really ask for.

[BobbieL]

when the hell is Ryan Mcd going to start this process or rebuilding and kick Kieff out of town. Add in Tucker.

today is January 15 - its time Ryan - its time!

[bwgood77]

when the hell is Ryan Mcd going to start this process or rebuilding and kick Kieff out of town. Add in Tucker.

today is January 15 - its time Ryan - its time!

Do you know the list of players that just become eligible for trade today? I know Corey Brewer is on it. If that deal (or another involving a player that just became eligible) doesn't get done today, I imagine it will be either closer to the deadline or this summer.

[TASTIC]

when the hell is Ryan Mcd going to start this process or rebuilding and kick Kieff out of town. Add in Tucker.

today is January 15 - its time Ryan - its time!

Do you know the list of players that just become eligible for trade today? I know Corey Brewer is on it. If that deal (or another involving a player that just became eligible) doesn't get done today, I imagine it will be either closer to the deadline or this summer.

This has all the guys who were eligible back in December
http://www.basketballinsiders.com/nba-am-378-nba-players-are-trade-eligible-today/

Then it mentions there's 26 other players who can be traded January 15:

While teams have had the ability to consummate trade all season, last night marked the moment when the bulk of players who signed contracts this summer could be traded. There are still some 26 players that cannot be traded until January 16th, as they signed deals 20 percent above their previous salary using Early Bird and Full Bird cap exceptions, which allowed their teams to exceed the salary cap to retain them.

If someone can be bothered..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_2015%E2%80%9316_NBA_season_transactions#Free_agency

[bwgood77]

when the hell is Ryan Mcd going to start this process or rebuilding and kick Kieff out of town. Add in Tucker.

today is January 15 - its time Ryan - its time!

Do you know the list of players that just become eligible for trade today? I know Corey Brewer is on it. If that deal (or another involving a player that just became eligible) doesn't get done today, I imagine it will be either closer to the deadline or this summer.

This has all the guys who were eligible back in December
http://www.basketballinsiders.com/nba-am-378-nba-players-are-trade-eligible-today/

Then it mentions there's 26 other players who can be traded January 15:

While teams have had the ability to consummate trade all season, last night marked the moment when the bulk of players who signed contracts this summer could be traded. There are still some 26 players that cannot be traded until January 16th, as they signed deals 20 percent above their previous salary using Early Bird and Full Bird cap exceptions, which allowed their teams to exceed the salary cap to retain them.

If someone can be bothered..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_2015%E2%80%9316_NBA_season_transactions#Free_agency

OK, that was kind of hard to tell, but I found another one...

January 15th

Alexis Ajinca, Pelicans
Lavoy Allen, Pacers
Patrick Beverley, Rockets
Corey Brewer, Rockets
Jimmy Butler, Bulls
Norris Cole, Pelicans
Jae Crowder, Celtics
Goran Dragic, Heat
Mike Dunleavy, Bulls
Marc Gasol, Grizzlies
Drew Gooden, Wizards
Danny Green, Spurs
Draymond Green, Warriors
Tobias Harris, Magic
Reggie Jackson, Pistons
DeAndre Jordan, Clippers
Enes Kanter, Thunder
Brandon Knight, Suns
Kawhi Leonard, Spurs
Brook Lopez, Nets
Kevin Love, Cavaliers
Khris Middleton, Bucks
Austin Rivers, Clippers
Iman Shumpert, Cavaliers
Kyle Singler, Thunder
Dwyane Wade, Heat

http://www.hoopsrumors.com/2015/11/special-trade-eligibility-dates.html

I think they only other guy on that list that could be involved in a trade for him would be Lavoy Allen, in some sort of deal for more filler and a 1st round pick, but not sure Bird would want Kieff after the brawl back in the day.


There is also this, though I don't know what the Cavs could give us except absorb him in their trade exception. http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2016/01/cleveland_cavalier_players_wou.html

[WeekapaugGroove]

I'm a little disappointed I didn't wake up to keif for Jones and brewer deal. I don't love Jones or anything just want the keif nonsense to be over with.

[TASTIC]

BOOM. 13 players on the move.



Nets start over this season with three legit starters in Kanter, Knight and Lawson, two of whom are young and offensive and locked up long-term to pair with RHJ and Thad. I'd include a 2nd for them too.

Suns land the biggest expiring of all time in Joe J, who they either buy-out or waive so he can sign with a contender. Lopez and Payne are the key pieces here, though Terrence Jones is someone many of us want due to his ceiling. And then added in my boy KJM as filler.

Thunder rid themselves of that mental Kanter deal while solidifying their vet presence and allowing them to re-sign Adams once he's up. Tucker could almost start at SG for them and I think he'd take the minutes they give Waiters and he'd be perfect next to Morrow. I suspect they'd want something for Payne, I'd probably give them the CLE pick to be honest since that'll be 27-28 or thereabouts.

Rockets trim the fat so to speak and add the guy they wanted while subtracting the guy who doesn't fit (Lawson) and the one they don't want to pay (Jones). Price is banged up but basically gives them Beverley lite to run the second unit. I don't want Brewer, as you can see.

Now I know this monstrosity is completely unbelievable but the pieces involved have all been talked about in some form or another so for curiosity's sake I wanted to see if all the pieces 'fit'.

Suns finish the season with this pretty young team with an exciting young back-court, knocking down walls and driving over cars in their purple and orange tank:

Lopez / Len
Jones / Teletovic / Leuer
Warren / KJM
Booker / Goodwin
Payne / Brown

I'd sign Russ Smith from the D-League too, I really like that guy at PG.

[nevetsov]

BOOM. 13 players on the move.



Nets start over this season with three legit starters in Kanter, Knight and Lawson, two of whom are young and offensive and locked up long-term to pair with RHJ and Thad. I'd include a 2nd for them too.

Suns land the biggest expiring of all time in Joe J, who they either buy-out or waive so he can sign with a contender. Lopez and Payne are the key pieces here, though Terrence Jones is someone many of us want due to his ceiling. And then added in my boy KJM as filler.

Thunder rid themselves of that mental Kanter deal while solidifying their vet presence and allowing them to re-sign Adams once he's up. Tucker could almost start at SG for them and I think he'd take the minutes they give Waiters and he'd be perfect next to Morrow. I suspect they'd want something for Payne, I'd probably give them the CLE pick to be honest since that'll be 27-28 or thereabouts.

Rockets trim the fat so to speak and add the guy they wanted while subtracting the guy who doesn't fit (Lawson) and the one they don't want to pay (Jones). Price is banged up but basically gives them Beverley lite to run the second unit. I don't want Brewer, as you can see.

Now I know this monstrosity is completely unbelievable but the pieces involved have all been talked about in some form or another so for curiosity's sake I wanted to see if all the pieces 'fit'.

Suns finish the season with this pretty young team with an exciting young back-court, knocking down walls and driving over cars in their purple and orange tank:

Lopez / Len
Jones / Teletovic / Leuer
Warren / KJM
Booker / Goodwin
Payne / Brown

I'd sign Russ Smith from the D-League too, I really like that guy at PG.

Absolutely ridiculous.

I love it.

[bwgood77]

BOOM. 13 players on the move.



Nets start over this season with three legit starters in Kanter, Knight and Lawson, two of whom are young and offensive and locked up long-term to pair with RHJ and Thad. I'd include a 2nd for them too.

Suns land the biggest expiring of all time in Joe J, who they either buy-out or waive so he can sign with a contender. Lopez and Payne are the key pieces here, though Terrence Jones is someone many of us want due to his ceiling. And then added in my boy KJM as filler.

Thunder rid themselves of that mental Kanter deal while solidifying their vet presence and allowing them to re-sign Adams once he's up. Tucker could almost start at SG for them and I think he'd take the minutes they give Waiters and he'd be perfect next to Morrow. I suspect they'd want something for Payne, I'd probably give them the CLE pick to be honest since that'll be 27-28 or thereabouts.

Rockets trim the fat so to speak and add the guy they wanted while subtracting the guy who doesn't fit (Lawson) and the one they don't want to pay (Jones). Price is banged up but basically gives them Beverley lite to run the second unit. I don't want Brewer, as you can see.

Now I know this monstrosity is completely unbelievable but the pieces involved have all been talked about in some form or another so for curiosity's sake I wanted to see if all the pieces 'fit'.

Suns finish the season with this pretty young team with an exciting young back-court, knocking down walls and driving over cars in their purple and orange tank:

Lopez / Len
Jones / Teletovic / Leuer
Warren / KJM
Booker / Goodwin
Payne / Brown

I'd sign Russ Smith from the D-League too, I really like that guy at PG.

That's a pretty good one. Try it on the trade board. I'd like to see the reactions there.

[RaisingArizona]

Where's the deals?

[Dr Manute]

[Dr Manute]

[King4Day]

BOOM. 13 players on the move.



Nets start over this season with three legit starters in Kanter, Knight and Lawson, two of whom are young and offensive and locked up long-term to pair with RHJ and Thad. I'd include a 2nd for them too.

Suns land the biggest expiring of all time in Joe J, who they either buy-out or waive so he can sign with a contender. Lopez and Payne are the key pieces here, though Terrence Jones is someone many of us want due to his ceiling. And then added in my boy KJM as filler.

Thunder rid themselves of that mental Kanter deal while solidifying their vet presence and allowing them to re-sign Adams once he's up. Tucker could almost start at SG for them and I think he'd take the minutes they give Waiters and he'd be perfect next to Morrow. I suspect they'd want something for Payne, I'd probably give them the CLE pick to be honest since that'll be 27-28 or thereabouts.

Rockets trim the fat so to speak and add the guy they wanted while subtracting the guy who doesn't fit (Lawson) and the one they don't want to pay (Jones). Price is banged up but basically gives them Beverley lite to run the second unit. I don't want Brewer, as you can see.

Now I know this monstrosity is completely unbelievable but the pieces involved have all been talked about in some form or another so for curiosity's sake I wanted to see if all the pieces 'fit'.

Suns finish the season with this pretty young team with an exciting young back-court, knocking down walls and driving over cars in their purple and orange tank:

Lopez / Len
Jones / Teletovic / Leuer
Warren / KJM
Booker / Goodwin
Payne / Brown

I'd sign Russ Smith from the D-League too, I really like that guy at PG.

That's a pretty good one. Try it on the trade board. I'd like to see the reactions there.

I don't think it'll get good feedback.
I keep saying this but BKN can't give up their assets to move laterally. Lopez is a guy FA's could want to play with. To trade you chip for a couple of contracts that are large and long and are not for players who will make you competitive, it just doesn't make sense for them. If 1st rounders are involved for them in an expanded deal then maybe.
People need to understand how bad of a situation Brooklyn is in right now. They are horrible and will continue to be bad with no picks to show for it for the next 3 years. Players like Knight and Kanter aren't building blocks. They are on debatably bad contracts and dangerous for a team who has no centerpiece.
If either or both guys falter, they set themselves back even further.

[Saberestar]

Where's the deals?

No deals.

It seems like McD is gonna make ALL the trades in the last minute before trade deadline...like last year.

[bwgood77]

I don't think it'll get good feedback.
I keep saying this but BKN can't give up their assets to move laterally. Lopez is a guy FA's could want to play with. To trade you chip for a couple of contracts that are large and long and are not for players who will make you competitive, it just doesn't make sense for them. If 1st rounders are involved for them in an expanded deal then maybe.
People need to understand how bad of a situation Brooklyn is in right now. They are horrible and will continue to be bad with no picks to show for it for the next 3 years. Players like Knight and Kanter aren't building blocks. They are on debatably bad contracts and dangerous for a team who has no centerpiece.
If either or both guys falter, they set themselves back even further.

I imagine some fans from all teams will have problems with it. But to get a good ball handling PG in Lawson (I know he has been bad but he mostly plays off ball with Harden) and Knight, you all of the sudden have a pretty good backcourt, and then you get Kanter for Lopez. That's a clear downgrade, but getting Lawson and Knight for JJ is a huge upgrade. It does show them with +4 on the deal. It's not like Lopez is a great defender either.

[Dr Manute]

Where's the deals?

No deals.

It seems like McD is gonna make ALL the trades in the last minute before trade deadline...like last year.

[Saberestar]

Should the Cavaliers trade for Markieff Morris? Cavs players are for it

Influential figures within the Cavaliers' locker room are open to the notion of trading for disgruntled Phoenix Suns power forward Markieff Morris, cleveland.com has learned.

They believe the Cavs can get the most potential out of him in the role he'd be assigned.

They're intrigued with the possibility of adding another stretch-four to back up Kevin Love. Also, Morris would serve as an insurance policy for an injury.

However, league sources with knowledge of the Cavaliers' thinking insist there's no connection right now between Morris and the defending Eastern Conference champions. I'm told the organization isn't too keen with the idea, fearing the team chemistry would be ruined.

The Cavaliers own a $10.5 million trade exception that expires in the offseason. Morris' $8 million annual salary could be absorbed into it, but Phoenix would likely want more in assets Cleveland simply doesn't have.

http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2016/01/cleveland_cavalier_players_wou.html

[SSOL]

Should the Cavaliers trade for Markieff Morris? Cavs players are for it

Influential figures within the Cavaliers' locker room are open to the notion of trading for disgruntled Phoenix Suns power forward Markieff Morris, cleveland.com has learned.

They believe the Cavs can get the most potential out of him in the role he'd be assigned.

They're intrigued with the possibility of adding another stretch-four to back up Kevin Love. Also, Morris would serve as an insurance policy for an injury.

However, league sources with knowledge of the Cavaliers' thinking insist there's no connection right now between Morris and the defending Eastern Conference champions. I'm told the organization isn't too keen with the idea, fearing the team chemistry would be ruined.

The Cavaliers own a $10.5 million trade exception that expires in the offseason. Morris' $8 million annual salary could be absorbed into it, but Phoenix would likely want more in assets Cleveland simply doesn't have.

http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2016/01/cleveland_cavalier_players_wou.html

That frontline is insane. Love, Thompson and Morris?

[Dr Manute]

Enough is enough! - Time to change this team!

[Djedefre]

People here are pretty impatient. Is dumping players after not really giving them a chance the right way? I mean, we practically just signed Knight, everybody was high on that deal, and after just few bad months forcing him away. Same with TJ - from odes to his game to putting him in trade talks for Hayward. Management is apparently on that side too, 'cause Suns look more like the Grand Central Station than a serious organisation with long term strategy. It's totally irresponsible to sign player after player and then dump them after so short periods of time. Number of players voicing discontent with this franchise is growing everyday. Even without that as a burden, PHX isn't exactly among the most attractive destinations in the league (we had the pleasure to witness that this past summer). Now this Simmons thing... Although he is undeniably the best player in this class, he brings some major reservations (that shooting for example, boxing out, position crossover...), not to mention that proper tanking doesn't even guarantee us the top 5 pick, let alone the top one which is needed for getting him. With that on mind, trading up is a must and that requires renouncing other assets (like other picks and useful rotation players) which narrows our maneuver space and leaves us with no potential plan b. Don't know my friends, really don't know...