Trade Deadline Countdown....What will we do? What should we do?

[pidi]

Still i dont unterstand what the Suns are Doing with keef. He's a dumbass.. what First play him, then bench him,suspend him and let him Start again.. this is the mirror of the Organisation right now.

Dont know which direction we're headed.. that kinda sucks

[TASTIC]

Teletovic, Price, 2nd rounder

for

Schroder, MScott (filler)

Tele would fit in perfect on that Hawks team and Schroder's in and out of Bud's bad-books on a game to game basis it seems.

I really like Schroder as a pass-first PG but he can still score effectively too.

[TeamTragic]

No on trading Teletovic. We need him off the bench.

[Barkley6]

Trade idea I had to get the Suns some value without really affecting the tank effort.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=zp4b3tr

Suns Get:
David Lee (15m Expiring)
Jared Sullinger
TJ McConnell

76ers Get:
P.J. Tucker
Alex Len
2nd Rounder from PHX

Celtics Get:
Mirza Teletovic
Robert Covington
2nd Rounder from PHX.

Why the Suns do it:
Lee's expiring will help our cap immensely next offseason, 15m coming off the books in what is going to be a banner year for spending money will be very valuable. Sullinger right now is a better player than Len. Yes, he's undersized as a 5, but he's the superior player and with Chandler in the mix, we don't exactly lack size. TJ McConnell is a much better option as a 3rd PG than anyone currently on the roster and is one a great contract.

Why the 76ers do it:
They give up very little. Don't have to take on any long term salary commitments, helps the tank, gives them another young C with potential, a veteran to help lead the locker room and provide some hustle and snag a 2nd round pick in the process.

Why the Celtics do it:
Celtics desperately need some 3 point shooting. Covington and Teletovic would immediately become the best shooters on the team. Giving up Sullinger isn't easy as he is the best player in this deal, but they have plenty of big man cover with Amir Johnson and Olynyk. They become more balanced as a team and the pick is a nice sweetener.

Not earth shattering for any team, but all 3 teams benefit from it.

[Barkley6]

No on trading Teletovic. We need him off the bench.

For what? So we can lose by 13 instead of 21?

[sunsbum]

No. We don't need him off the bench.

[TeamTragic]

No on trading Teletovic. We need him off the bench.

For what? So we can lose by 13 instead of 21?

We need Telly to keep being Telly

No. We don't need him off the bench.

We need his hair off the bench. Discussion over

[BobbieL]

No on trading Teletovic. We need him off the bench.

For what? So we can lose by 13 instead of 21?

Agree -Teletovic has shown he will get a decent contract next year in free agency. He has been a good player but Suns have bigger issues and need better players. So, he probably is not top of the list to bring back if you can get other players.

I think if you can trade him and get back a draft pick or a player with more of a long term future - you do it.

[dremill24]

Trade idea I had to get the Suns some value without really affecting the tank effort.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=zp4b3tr

Suns Get:
David Lee (15m Expiring)
Jared Sullinger
TJ McConnell

76ers Get:
P.J. Tucker
Alex Len
2nd Rounder from PHX

Celtics Get:
Mirza Teletovic
Robert Covington
2nd Rounder from PHX.

Why the Suns do it:
Lee's expiring will help our cap immensely next offseason, 15m coming off the books in what is going to be a banner year for spending money will be very valuable. Sullinger right now is a better player than Len. Yes, he's undersized as a 5, but he's the superior player and with Chandler in the mix, we don't exactly lack size. TJ McConnell is a much better option as a 3rd PG than anyone currently on the roster and is one a great contract.

Why the 76ers do it:
They give up very little. Don't have to take on any long term salary commitments, helps the tank, gives them another young C with potential, a veteran to help lead the locker room and provide some hustle and snag a 2nd round pick in the process.

Why the Celtics do it:
Celtics desperately need some 3 point shooting. Covington and Teletovic would immediately become the best shooters on the team. Giving up Sullinger isn't easy as he is the best player in this deal, but they have plenty of big man cover with Amir Johnson and Olynyk. They become more balanced as a team and the pick is a nice sweetener.

Not earth shattering for any team, but all 3 teams benefit from it.

I have to wonder what makes you think Sullinger so much better than Len. Sure he's got better scoring touch, but a big man's real value (if he's not an elite offensive weapon) comes from his ability to protect the rim and/or move his feet defending a PnR. Sullinger is pretty awful at both of those things, with not nearly enough offensive production to really justify it. Len, though he's having a really down year across the board IMO, showed last year that he can be a VERY good last line of defense at the bucket making shot attempts in the paint much more difficult to convert, which is probably the most important skill a big man can have.

[Barkley6]

Trade idea I had to get the Suns some value without really affecting the tank effort.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=zp4b3tr

Suns Get:
David Lee (15m Expiring)
Jared Sullinger
TJ McConnell

76ers Get:
P.J. Tucker
Alex Len
2nd Rounder from PHX

Celtics Get:
Mirza Teletovic
Robert Covington
2nd Rounder from PHX.

Why the Suns do it:
Lee's expiring will help our cap immensely next offseason, 15m coming off the books in what is going to be a banner year for spending money will be very valuable. Sullinger right now is a better player than Len. Yes, he's undersized as a 5, but he's the superior player and with Chandler in the mix, we don't exactly lack size. TJ McConnell is a much better option as a 3rd PG than anyone currently on the roster and is one a great contract.

Why the 76ers do it:
They give up very little. Don't have to take on any long term salary commitments, helps the tank, gives them another young C with potential, a veteran to help lead the locker room and provide some hustle and snag a 2nd round pick in the process.

Why the Celtics do it:
Celtics desperately need some 3 point shooting. Covington and Teletovic would immediately become the best shooters on the team. Giving up Sullinger isn't easy as he is the best player in this deal, but they have plenty of big man cover with Amir Johnson and Olynyk. They become more balanced as a team and the pick is a nice sweetener.

Not earth shattering for any team, but all 3 teams benefit from it.

I have to wonder what makes you think Sullinger so much better than Len. Sure he's got better scoring touch, but a big man's real value (if he's not an elite offensive weapon) comes from his ability to protect the rim and/or move his feet defending a PnR. Sullinger is pretty awful at both of those things, with not nearly enough offensive production to really justify it. Len, though he's having a really down year across the board IMO, showed last year that he can be a VERY good last line of defense at the bucket making shot attempts in the paint much more difficult to convert, which is probably the most important skill a big man can have.

I've honestly given up on Len. He can't stay healthy, he shows flashes but that's all he shows. He can't consistently put it together and I'm tired of the patience brigade. Booker and Warren are both contributing in their first and second years respectively. Len, as a #5 pick should be giving us more than 6 and 5 in limited minutes (limited both due to his injuries and his foul trouble).
He's Jake Tsakalidis 2.0 at this moment.

[carey]

No on trading Teletovic. We need him off the bench.

For what? So we can lose by 13 instead of 21?

Agree -Teletovic has shown he will get a decent contract next year in free agency. He has been a good player but Suns have bigger issues and need better players. So, he probably is not top of the list to bring back if you can get other players.

I think if you can trade him and get back a draft pick or a player with more of a long term future - you do it.

Right. We don't have his bird rights either. If you can get anything at all for him & you didn't plan on using up your cap space to sign him this Summer then you trade him.

[AtheJ415]

For what? So we can lose by 13 instead of 21?

Agree -Teletovic has shown he will get a decent contract next year in free agency. He has been a good player but Suns have bigger issues and need better players. So, he probably is not top of the list to bring back if you can get other players.

I think if you can trade him and get back a draft pick or a player with more of a long term future - you do it.

Right. We don't have his bird rights either. If you can get anything at all for him & you didn't plan on using up your cap space to sign him this Summer then you trade him.

If Tele was 23, he's a guy you keep at all costs, but he's 30, so you have to let him go. Get what you can and try to draft or sign the next Tele.

This isn't a quick process. It's at best 2-3 years. We've made great progress as far as rebuilding by getting young talent, but it'll be probably 2-3 more years before the Suns are back to where most are accustomed. No team out there has 21 and 22 year olds in their rotations who is contending. That just doesn't happen in the NBA.

So even at 2-3 years, which is short, really it'll probably be 4-5, Tele will be 32 or 33, and that means you are investing in a guy who is on the downside of his career and can't help you going forward. Age is a really big factor with all these guys when you are rebuilding and your team is a bunch of 19-24 year olds.

[jcsunsfan]

Agree -Teletovic has shown he will get a decent contract next year in free agency. He has been a good player but Suns have bigger issues and need better players. So, he probably is not top of the list to bring back if you can get other players.

I think if you can trade him and get back a draft pick or a player with more of a long term future - you do it.

Right. We don't have his bird rights either. If you can get anything at all for him & you didn't plan on using up your cap space to sign him this Summer then you trade him.

If Tele was 23, he's a guy you keep at all costs, but he's 30, so you have to let him go. Get what you can and try to draft or sign the next Tele.

This isn't a quick process. It's not 2-3 years. We've made great progress as far as rebuilding by getting young talent, but it'll be probably 2-3 more years before the Suns are back to where most are accustomed. No team out there has 21 and 22 year olds in their rotations who is contending. That just doesn't happen in the NBA.

So even at 2-3 years, which is short, really it'll probably be 4-5, Tele will be 32 or 33, and that means you are investing in a guy who is on the downside of his career and can't help you going forward. Age is a really big factor with all these guys when you are rebuilding and your team is a bunch of 19-24 year olds.

As much as I like Tele, I agree. If we aren't signing him over the summer, might as well trade him and get something now. Good grief, even if we DO want to sign him over the summer, we could still trade him now and do it. We don't have his Bird rights, so it does not matter. Let him go to a contender for playoff run, get our lotto pick, then sign him back if we want.

[Kerrsed]

Well, here is my semi-annual fire sale.

Trade 1: Chandler/Morris to Boston for Lee/Young/2016 Boston 1st/2016 76ers 2nd

Boston has an incredible 3 1st round picks and 5 2nd round picks in this upcoming draft. They drop Lees expiring for Chandlers veteran leadership and get a cheaply locked in Morris to replace Johnson in the starting line-up (which would be a much better fit next to Sullinger) for the price of Young (who gets zero minutes) and a couple of picks (which they have a plenty).

Suns get a couple of draft picks to help the rebuilding process.

Trade 2: Mirza/Tucker to Toronto for Patterson/Biyombo/Johnson/2016 Nuggets 1st

Toronto gets the back-up stretch 4 that they are looking for, and a good one at that! They also get Tucker to play the starting SF position, something that Johnson has been doing since Carroll went down with injury. Biyombo's absence gives more minutes to young Nogueira to develop.

Suns get another lotto pick, a fringe starting PF in Patterson, and the rest of the season to get a look at Biyombo/Johnson to decide if we should look at re-signing them.

[bwgood77]

Well, here is my semi-annual fire sale.

Trade 1: Chandler/Morris to Boston for Lee/Young/2016 Boston 1st/2016 76ers 2nd

Boston has an incredible 3 1st round picks and 5 2nd round picks in this upcoming draft. They drop Lees expiring for Chandlers veteran leadership and get a cheaply locked in Morris to replace Johnson in the starting line-up (which would be a much better fit next to Sullinger) for the price of Young (who gets zero minutes) and a couple of picks (which they have a plenty).

Suns get a couple of draft picks to help the rebuilding process.

Trade 2: Mirza/Tucker to Toronto for Patterson/Biyombo/Johnson/2016 Nuggets 1st

Toronto gets the back-up stretch 4 that they are looking for, and a good one at that! They also get Tucker to play the starting SF position, something that Johnson has been doing since Carroll went down with injury. Biyombo's absence gives more minutes to young Nogueira to develop.

Suns get another lotto pick, a fringe starting PF in Patterson, and the rest of the season to get a look at Biyombo/Johnson to decide if we should look at re-signing them.

Good trades, although I doubt there is any way we get a Nuggets 1st from what we give Toronto...Mirza is expiring and Tucker doesn't have the much value. Subtract that pick and it might work out....Boston would probably want their pick protected as well in case they miss the playoffs.

[JohnWall2]

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Totally false.I love how people are out there trying to ruin his value to help some team fleece us. Kieff is a good player on a terrific contract, I'd tell a team if you don't think he is worth it, beat it, we will just keep him and bring him off of the bench until his contract expires. He doesn't hurt us financially and that is the most important thing.

Why would we give up an asset when Kief is going to your team to help, not as a salary dump?

I don't have a probem attaching players to the Kief deal - but Kieff does have good value. He has a cheap contract and IF HE WANTS TO BE - is a good player. When the Suns didn't get Aldridge, I thought - well Kieff can do some of the things LaMarcus can do if he continues t improve. HE hasn't. So, I still stay, get him out of the locker room

As for a trade - Tyson Chandler for Kanter - the Thunder have a chance RIGHT NOW. They have the core, they have the team - to win this title. Tucker would help them too. Kanter and Collison for Tucker and Chandler - who says No.

I say no. Why do we want Kanter? Guy can't defend his own shadow he's truely awful. If we could take Adams instead then it's a definite yes from me.

[Mulhollanddrive]

This is like fapping off thinking about cardboard.

[GetYourPHX]

Here's another fire sale type trade that I like - Chandler/Tucker/Mirza to Washington for Nene/Dudley/Oubre

Nets us a young asset and the tank rolls on.

I feel like we have to move Chandler. His effort was pretty pathetic vs. Boston. I can't imagine he's happy in a tanking scenario right now.

I'd even move him for Joakim Noah at this point.

[carey]

I feel like we have to move Chandler. His effort was pretty pathetic vs. Boston. I can't imagine he's happy in a tanking scenario right now.

I'd even move him for Joakim Noah at this point.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/YahooSports/status/688578065602097153[/tweet]

[GetYourPHX]

I feel like we have to move Chandler. His effort was pretty pathetic vs. Boston. I can't imagine he's happy in a tanking scenario right now.

I'd even move him for Joakim Noah at this point.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/YahooSports/status/688578065602097153[/tweet]

I know he's out. He's an expiring contract that wouldn't take minutes from our young guys. I said I'd even move him for Noah because he's not giving full effort on the defensive end and even Isaiah Thomas is beating him around the basket.

Cool snarky response though.