Official Trade Thread - Part XXX

[payitforward]

...The Wizards are 29th in offensive rebounding and 9th in transition defense; but New Orleans is 30th in offensive rebounding and 29th in transition D. I need historical data on this.

No matter your strategy in re: offensive rebounding, you still may have a roster of players who don't play good transition D. The correlation alone can't account for that. I can't see how historical data would either.

For that matter, a team can be bad at offensive rebounding without having decided to ignore the offensive glass. They may be going for offensive boards but not getting them! And this too would show up in low transition D figures.

What you'd need would be *experimental* data -- get teams to change strategies for a while, and then look at the results.

[WarriorsLakers]

would you guys do Bass/Lou/Kelly for Nene/Oubre?

[nate33]

would you guys do Bass/Lou/Kelly for Nene/Oubre?

LOL. No.

You're not getting Oubre for a poo poo platter.

Lou Williams is a serviceable one-dimensional gunner off the bench, but he's not as good as Nene and the Wizards aren't in need of another guard. Bass and Kelly are nothing more than filler.

[WarriorsLakers]

would you guys do Bass/Lou/Kelly for Nene/Oubre?

LOL. No.

You're not getting Oubre for a poo poo platter.

Lou Williams is a serviceable one-dimensional gunner off the bench, but he's not as good as Nene and the Wizards aren't in need of another guard. Bass and Kelly are nothing more than filler.

nene is injury prone expirer nothing more. good luck having no bench tough. Lou is serviceable one-dimensional gunner that ur team needs

bass is filler? u watched him play ever?

[nuposse04]

would you guys do Bass/Lou/Kelly for Nene/Oubre?

LOL. No.

You're not getting Oubre for a poo poo platter.

Lou Williams is a serviceable one-dimensional gunner off the bench, but he's not as good as Nene and the Wizards aren't in need of another guard. Bass and Kelly are nothing more than filler.

nene is injury prone expirer nothing more. good luck having no bench tough. Lou is serviceable one-dimensional gunner that ur team needs

bass is filler? u watched him play ever?

Bass is no better then Humpries. Lou is a chucker, and you must be quite the moron to think we have no bench. Sessions, Temple(eventually), oubre, Nene and Hump are a fine bench. Add in Alan Anderson and the bench gets even better. Take your BS justification else where. Oh and we have a one dimensional gunner, his name is Gary Neal. We don't need the **** from a **** team.

[WarriorsLakers]

LOL. No.

You're not getting Oubre for a poo poo platter.

Lou Williams is a serviceable one-dimensional gunner off the bench, but he's not as good as Nene and the Wizards aren't in need of another guard. Bass and Kelly are nothing more than filler.

nene is injury prone expirer nothing more. good luck having no bench tough. Lou is serviceable one-dimensional gunner that ur team needs

bass is filler? u watched him play ever?

Bass is no better then Humpries. Lou is a chucker, and you must be quite the moron to think we have no bench. Sessions, Temple(eventually), oubre, Nene and Hump are a fine bench. Add in Alan Anderson and the bench gets even better. Take your BS justification else where. Oh and we have a one dimensional gunner, his name is Gary Neal. We don't need the **** from a **** team.

haha sessions? hump? enjoy mediocracy

[nuposse04]

nene is injury prone expirer nothing more. good luck having no bench tough. Lou is serviceable one-dimensional gunner that ur team needs

bass is filler? u watched him play ever?

Bass is no better then Humpries. Lou is a chucker, and you must be quite the moron to think we have no bench. Sessions, Temple(eventually), oubre, Nene and Hump are a fine bench. Add in Alan Anderson and the bench gets even better. Take your BS justification else where. Oh and we have a one dimensional gunner, his name is Gary Neal. We don't need the **** from a **** team.

haha sessions? hump? enjoy mediocracy

Will do, enjoy Kobe's trash piece of crap ass and Bryon Scott

And your eventual max offer to Demar Derozan

[hrbngr]

Some what belatedly, here is a good article from Zach Lowe on the disappearance of the Offensive Rebound. (not sure if someone already posted this):

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/14505051/transition-defense-left-offensive-rebounds-cutting-room-floor

[jangles86]

Must be hard being a laker fan these days.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Tell me more about the missus and the kids and I'll think about that offer.

You can lose both.

CCJ, this is both heartbreaking and hilarious.
You have a friend in DC if you ever need one.

Forget heartbreaking.

Child support payments ain't no joke.

Thanks, AFM. It was said deadpan. I'm good, and Thanks!

[jangles86]

Adrian Payne would be gettable from minni. He is a strong rebounder and has range to the 3 point line. Would be happy for a Humphries or Blair swap.

[wolves_89]

Adrian Payne would be gettable from minni. He is a strong rebounder and has range to the 3 point line. Would be happy for a Humphries or Blair swap.

While Payne is likely available I don't see the Wolves having any interest in Humphries. I also can't see Minnesota dumping Payne for nothing (Blair) since his contract is pretty cheap and he still has upside.

[Dark Faze]

payne is one of the worst players in the league honestly

[wolves_89]

payne is one of the worst players in the league honestly

The same can be said for Blair. Out of Payne or Blair I'd rather have Payne.

[Dark Faze]

payne is one of the worst players in the league honestly

The same can be said for Blair. Out of Payne or Blair I'd rather have Payne.

we don't have any delusions of getting anything for blair lol

eff both of those players

[payitforward]

Bass is no better then Humpries. Lou is a chucker, and you must be quite the moron to think we have no bench. Sessions, Temple(eventually), oubre, Nene and Hump are a fine bench. Add in Alan Anderson and the bench gets even better. Take your BS justification else where. Oh and we have a one dimensional gunner, his name is Gary Neal. We don't need the **** from a **** team.

haha sessions? hump? enjoy mediocracy

Will do, enjoy Kobe's trash piece of crap ass and Bryon Scott

And your eventual max offer to Demar Derozan

Well the proposed trade was ridiculous, obviously. But, after laughing him away once, why bother descending to his level of insulting stupidity. Just tell him where the caps key is on the keyboard, explain how spell check works, and let him go.

"mediocracy" -- ???

[nuposse04]

haha sessions? hump? enjoy mediocracy

Will do, enjoy Kobe's trash piece of crap ass and Bryon Scott

And your eventual max offer to Demar Derozan

Well the proposed trade was ridiculous, obviously. But, after laughing him away once, why bother descending to his level of insulting stupidity. Just tell him where the caps key is on the keyboard, explain how spell check works, and let him go.

"mediocracy" -- ???

Our current roster and overall woe brings out the worst and me PIF >:0

But you're right, I should be less abrasive. Just can't deal with clearly biased trade proposals >.>

[payitforward]

Must be hard being a laker fan these days.

I don't see why. They have some young talent, some high picks coming, an absolute ton of cap room, and one of the biggest markets/budgets in the sports business.

Then again... we've had some hard years here recently, haven't we? Quite a few hard years.

[payitforward]

payne is one of the worst players in the league honestly

The same can be said for Blair. Out of Payne or Blair I'd rather have Payne.

I'm don't know whether either of these guys is among the league's worst players, but at least Blair has had a history of success in the NBA. And, he has an actual role.

In short, you're wrong.

[wolves_89]

payne is one of the worst players in the league honestly

The same can be said for Blair. Out of Payne or Blair I'd rather have Payne.

I'm don't know whether either of these guys is among the league's worst players, but at least Blair has had a history of success in the NBA. And, he has an actual role.

In short, you're wrong.

I'm not sure how wanting the younger player with more upside is wrong for a rebuilding team. Saying that Blair was once a useful player has little to do with his current value. Could Blair return to usefulness, it's possible, but when the bet is a long shot either way I'll go with the option that is more oriented to the future instead of the past.