Trade Idea Thread 15-16

[Kings2013]

I'm a little reticent on stretch 4s like Mirotic/Anderson for the same reason our D/rebounding tended to suffer a little with the small lineup of Gay/Casspi. WCS has statistically performed well with Cuz and IMO was drafted to play next to him. Although if the Anderson rumor was true the FO might have another opinion

[WarriorsLakers]

would u guys do Lou/Bass for WCS/fillers?

[SactoKingsFan]

would u guys do Lou/Bass for WCS/fillers?

Easy no. WCS has legit defensive anchor potential.

[dozencousins]

Update to all :

Clippers have contacted the Kings about none other than Rudy Gay . I cannot tell anyone directly what package it would be as of now if this happened . What I do know that the pieces being talked about are L.Stephenson , J.J. Redick , J.Crawford & a future # 1 draft pick .

So nobody misunderstands me I am not saying a deal will happen & I am not saying we would acquire all of pieces as If we did trade the odds are more likely we would acquire 2 of those pieces at most .

I will say Gay's future in Sac is about 95% out the door . I like R.GAY a lot but I am now believing based on how much we are talking with other teams about him & how deep we are in talks with teams that he will be dealt really soon . I could be wrong & a lot of times trades fall through but their are to many teams sending us offers & IMO a lot of these offers are pretty damn good .
Deals that would land us more position of need , A better defensive type player as we have a ton of scorers on our team already & also a litlle better cap space to be better players in the free agent market next season & there after .

We are having talks with many teams now .

Pelicans
Bulls
Clippers
Lakers
Bucks
Hornets
Magic
Rockets

Some teams mentioned are far less likely we would do a deal with and some of the teams are more likely to be a 3rd team in a deal.

P.S. If anyone cares all can expect D.Howard to get traded he is going to be traded . I found this out late last night believe it or not the Rockets offered us D.Howard in a package involving Gay with Koufas plus in a deal . I don't know the whole offer but it was presented . I don't believe the Kings want Howard on this team & with his free falling decline ever since leaving the Magic I don't think I want him either especially at his current contract & the type of contract he will try & sign for as a Free Agent .

[Swarles Xavier]

Update to all :

Clippers have contacted the Kings about none other than Rudy Gay . I cannot tell anyone directly what package it would be as of now if this happened . What I do know that the pieces being talked about are L.Stephenson , J.J. Redick , J.Crawford & a future # 1 draft pick .

So nobody misunderstands me I am not saying a deal will happen & I am not saying we would acquire all of pieces as If we did trade the odds are more likely we would acquire 2 of those pieces at most .

I will say Gay's future in Sac is about 95% out the door . I like R.GAY a lot but I am now believing based on how much we are talking with other teams about him & how deep we are in talks with teams that he will be dealt really soon . I could be wrong & a lot of times trades fall through but their are to many teams sending us offers & IMO a lot of these offers are pretty damn good .
Deals that would land us more position of need , A better defensive type player as we have a ton of scorers on our team already & also a litlle better cap space to be better players in the free agent market next season & there after .

We are having talks with many teams now .

Pelicans
Bulls
Clippers
Lakers
Bucks
Hornets
Magic
Rockets

Some teams mentioned are far less likely we would do a deal with and some of the teams are more likely to be a 3rd team in a deal.

P.S. If anyone cares all can expect D.Howard to get traded he is going to be traded . I found this out late last night believe it or not the Rockets offered us D.Howard in a package involving Gay with Koufas plus in a deal . I don't know the whole offer but it was presented . I don't believe the Kings want Howard on this team & with his free falling decline ever since leaving the Magic I don't think I want him either especially at his current contract & the type of contract he will try & sign for as a Free Agent .

Are the talks with the bulls getting anywhere? Would love gay on our team.

[dozencousins]

Update to all :

Clippers have contacted the Kings about none other than Rudy Gay . I cannot tell anyone directly what package it would be as of now if this happened . What I do know that the pieces being talked about are L.Stephenson , J.J. Redick , J.Crawford & a future # 1 draft pick .

So nobody misunderstands me I am not saying a deal will happen & I am not saying we would acquire all of pieces as If we did trade the odds are more likely we would acquire 2 of those pieces at most .

I will say Gay's future in Sac is about 95% out the door . I like R.GAY a lot but I am now believing based on how much we are talking with other teams about him & how deep we are in talks with teams that he will be dealt really soon . I could be wrong & a lot of times trades fall through but their are to many teams sending us offers & IMO a lot of these offers are pretty damn good .
Deals that would land us more position of need , A better defensive type player as we have a ton of scorers on our team already & also a litlle better cap space to be better players in the free agent market next season & there after .

We are having talks with many teams now .

Pelicans
Bulls
Clippers
Lakers
Bucks
Hornets
Magic
Rockets

Some teams mentioned are far less likely we would do a deal with and some of the teams are more likely to be a 3rd team in a deal.

P.S. If anyone cares all can expect D.Howard to get traded he is going to be traded . I found this out late last night believe it or not the Rockets offered us D.Howard in a package involving Gay with Koufas plus in a deal . I don't know the whole offer but it was presented . I don't believe the Kings want Howard on this team & with his free falling decline ever since leaving the Magic I don't think I want him either especially at his current contract & the type of contract he will try & sign for as a Free Agent .

Are the talks with the bulls getting anywhere? Would love gay on our team.

Not that deep honestly as of now . 1 obstacle is the Bulls would have to give us back our future # 1 pick as part of the deal .
Pieces have been mentioned are Noah ( not likely ) Gibson , Gasol ( not likely ) , Mirotic , McDermmott & our #1 pick owed . These are the parts talked about . Different combinations have been thrown out their .
That said their are other teams whom have offered us better deals so far than the Bulls so for any deal to happen with the Bulls it likely starts & ends with our pick owed coming back to us .

[Swarles Xavier]

Update to all :

Clippers have contacted the Kings about none other than Rudy Gay . I cannot tell anyone directly what package it would be as of now if this happened . What I do know that the pieces being talked about are L.Stephenson , J.J. Redick , J.Crawford & a future # 1 draft pick .

So nobody misunderstands me I am not saying a deal will happen & I am not saying we would acquire all of pieces as If we did trade the odds are more likely we would acquire 2 of those pieces at most .

I will say Gay's future in Sac is about 95% out the door . I like R.GAY a lot but I am now believing based on how much we are talking with other teams about him & how deep we are in talks with teams that he will be dealt really soon . I could be wrong & a lot of times trades fall through but their are to many teams sending us offers & IMO a lot of these offers are pretty damn good .
Deals that would land us more position of need , A better defensive type player as we have a ton of scorers on our team already & also a litlle better cap space to be better players in the free agent market next season & there after .

We are having talks with many teams now .

Pelicans
Bulls
Clippers
Lakers
Bucks
Hornets
Magic
Rockets

Some teams mentioned are far less likely we would do a deal with and some of the teams are more likely to be a 3rd team in a deal.

P.S. If anyone cares all can expect D.Howard to get traded he is going to be traded . I found this out late last night believe it or not the Rockets offered us D.Howard in a package involving Gay with Koufas plus in a deal . I don't know the whole offer but it was presented . I don't believe the Kings want Howard on this team & with his free falling decline ever since leaving the Magic I don't think I want him either especially at his current contract & the type of contract he will try & sign for as a Free Agent .

Are the talks with the bulls getting anywhere? Would love gay on our team.

Not that deep honestly as of now . 1 obstacle is the Bulls would have to give us back our future # 1 pick as part of the deal .
Pieces have been mentioned are Noah ( not likely ) Gibson , Gasol ( not likely ) , Mirotic , McDermmott & our #1 pick owed . These are the parts talked about . Different combinations have been thrown out their .
That said their are other teams whom have offered us better deals so far than the Bulls so for any deal to happen with the Bulls it likely starts & ends with our pick owed coming back to us .

Yeah that's what I thought. A lot of other teams can offer more . Thanks for the reply. Hope the kings make the playoffs

[sportscrazy]

In the off-season, if Cleveland were to offer Mo Williams and Sasha Kaun for Darren Collison, would there be any interest from Sacramento?

[SacKingZZZ]

Why the offseason? I'd hate to see Collison moved if it didn't bring back an equally good defender. I liked Sasha at Kansas and I think he can be a good pro, but the Kings probably don't need him at this point.

[SacKingZZZ]

Update to all :

Clippers have contacted the Kings about none other than Rudy Gay . I cannot tell anyone directly what package it would be as of now if this happened . What I do know that the pieces being talked about are L.Stephenson , J.J. Redick , J.Crawford & a future # 1 draft pick .

So nobody misunderstands me I am not saying a deal will happen & I am not saying we would acquire all of pieces as If we did trade the odds are more likely we would acquire 2 of those pieces at most .

I will say Gay's future in Sac is about 95% out the door . I like R.GAY a lot but I am now believing based on how much we are talking with other teams about him & how deep we are in talks with teams that he will be dealt really soon . I could be wrong & a lot of times trades fall through but their are to many teams sending us offers & IMO a lot of these offers are pretty damn good .
Deals that would land us more position of need , A better defensive type player as we have a ton of scorers on our team already & also a litlle better cap space to be better players in the free agent market next season & there after .

We are having talks with many teams now .

Pelicans
Bulls
Clippers
Lakers
Bucks
Hornets
Magic
Rockets

Some teams mentioned are far less likely we would do a deal with and some of the teams are more likely to be a 3rd team in a deal.

P.S. If anyone cares all can expect D.Howard to get traded he is going to be traded . I found this out late last night believe it or not the Rockets offered us D.Howard in a package involving Gay with Koufas plus in a deal . I don't know the whole offer but it was presented . I don't believe the Kings want Howard on this team & with his free falling decline ever since leaving the Magic I don't think I want him either especially at his current contract & the type of contract he will try & sign for as a Free Agent .

Are the talks with the bulls getting anywhere? Would love gay on our team.

Not that deep honestly as of now . 1 obstacle is the Bulls would have to give us back our future # 1 pick as part of the deal .
Pieces have been mentioned are Noah ( not likely ) Gibson , Gasol ( not likely ) , Mirotic , McDermmott & our #1 pick owed . These are the parts talked about . Different combinations have been thrown out their .
That said their are other teams whom have offered us better deals so far than the Bulls so for any deal to happen with the Bulls it likely starts & ends with our pick owed coming back to us .

The Gasol idea is interesting, it would be pretty obvious as to what Vlade would be building, but I doubt Karl would know what to do with Webber/Vlade 2016.

I wouldn't mind a deal involving Gay for Gibson and filler, but there's the same problem again, what would Karl do with him? It's another GM move that doesn't really fit the vision his coach sees out on the floor. The Kings would have a great 4 big defensive tandem at PF/C. They have a great 3 now, but what has it accomplished?

[WarriorsLakers]

Update to all :

Clippers have contacted the Kings about none other than Rudy Gay . I cannot tell anyone directly what package it would be as of now if this happened . What I do know that the pieces being talked about are L.Stephenson , J.J. Redick , J.Crawford & a future # 1 draft pick .

So nobody misunderstands me I am not saying a deal will happen & I am not saying we would acquire all of pieces as If we did trade the odds are more likely we would acquire 2 of those pieces at most .

I will say Gay's future in Sac is about 95% out the door . I like R.GAY a lot but I am now believing based on how much we are talking with other teams about him & how deep we are in talks with teams that he will be dealt really soon . I could be wrong & a lot of times trades fall through but their are to many teams sending us offers & IMO a lot of these offers are pretty damn good .
Deals that would land us more position of need , A better defensive type player as we have a ton of scorers on our team already & also a litlle better cap space to be better players in the free agent market next season & there after .

We are having talks with many teams now .

Pelicans
Bulls
Clippers
Lakers
Bucks
Hornets
Magic
Rockets

Some teams mentioned are far less likely we would do a deal with and some of the teams are more likely to be a 3rd team in a deal.

P.S. If anyone cares all can expect D.Howard to get traded he is going to be traded . I found this out late last night believe it or not the Rockets offered us D.Howard in a package involving Gay with Koufas plus in a deal . I don't know the whole offer but it was presented . I don't believe the Kings want Howard on this team & with his free falling decline ever since leaving the Magic I don't think I want him either especially at his current contract & the type of contract he will try & sign for as a Free Agent .

what are you guys talking to Lakers about? players involved?

thanks in advance

[nolafan33]

I posted that very trade proposal right on this thread january 1st via my inside source . That is not news to me .
Well the Kings & N.O are expected to resume talks on Monday no deal is for sure though .

Pelicans , Bulls , Clippers & Grizzlies to name a few interested in Gay .

I know you did, have you heard anything of a deal discussed around Tyreke and Ajinca for Rondo and any combination McLemore, Belinelli, or WCS? We were told that deal is less likely amd has somewhat died down because George Karl is who "LOVES" Evans (as the source put it) and it's unknown how long Karl will remain the coach. It is something that has been discussed though. We have been told the other teams to keep an eye on are Orlando, Brooklyn, Charlotte and Boston. Kind of tells me Dell would prefer to deal with the East. Orlando has some very interesting packages for Ryno, just a matter if Dell wants help now or players and picks that will help him down the road. Some good packages have been discussed with Sac as well.

Kings have Zero interest in Tyreke . Mclemore & Rondo has not been mentioned so far in any deal with N.O.
Ajinca's name had been thrown out their but not from SAC'S side . Not much interest in him from Kings thus far .
Bottom line is N.O. wont trade us Anderson then no deal will happen between us 99% sure .
Trade hasn't happened yet as N.O. is hoping they will get a better offer however that is very unlikely . It will become more likely of Kings moving on & dealing with another team if Pelicans don't pull the trigger .
Demps know 100% sure he will not be able to keep Anderson so he would be wise to get something done fast with Sac or someone .
Holding out to the last minute on deadline day will get him less in return as all GM'S will know that he will have to a lesser more desperate deal to get anything really good for him .
Gay's contract if N.O. took it on could easily be re-traded again soon enough down the line & Demps could gain value from that should he feel that N.O. doesn't want to keep him long term . That said Gay's game would mesh really well into the N.O. system & Demps badly wants a solid sf that can be a great wing player as well .
Divac is getting a ton of calls so anyone who really wants Gay better move fast . Kings will not continue waiting as Divac is highly motivated to get a deal done that he feels will push us into the playoffs though he will not do a deal for the sake of doing a deal .

I've heard via our sources that there are more packages out there that to me, would be more enticing than what Sacramento would offer. Problem with that is I'm not Dell Demps and I don't always agree with his moves lol. Kind of seems like both of the teams "sources" are speaking different languages, which isn't surprising. Both seem trustworthy. I've heard McLemore has been discussed quite a bit. Will be interesting to see what happens with all involved parties.

[dozencousins]

I know you did, have you heard anything of a deal discussed around Tyreke and Ajinca for Rondo and any combination McLemore, Belinelli, or WCS? We were told that deal is less likely amd has somewhat died down because George Karl is who "LOVES" Evans (as the source put it) and it's unknown how long Karl will remain the coach. It is something that has been discussed though. We have been told the other teams to keep an eye on are Orlando, Brooklyn, Charlotte and Boston. Kind of tells me Dell would prefer to deal with the East. Orlando has some very interesting packages for Ryno, just a matter if Dell wants help now or players and picks that will help him down the road. Some good packages have been discussed with Sac as well.

Kings have Zero interest in Tyreke . Mclemore & Rondo has not been mentioned so far in any deal with N.O.
Ajinca's name had been thrown out their but not from SAC'S side . Not much interest in him from Kings thus far .
Bottom line is N.O. wont trade us Anderson then no deal will happen between us 99% sure .
Trade hasn't happened yet as N.O. is hoping they will get a better offer however that is very unlikely . It will become more likely of Kings moving on & dealing with another team if Pelicans don't pull the trigger .
Demps know 100% sure he will not be able to keep Anderson so he would be wise to get something done fast with Sac or someone .
Holding out to the last minute on deadline day will get him less in return as all GM'S will know that he will have to a lesser more desperate deal to get anything really good for him .
Gay's contract if N.O. took it on could easily be re-traded again soon enough down the line & Demps could gain value from that should he feel that N.O. doesn't want to keep him long term . That said Gay's game would mesh really well into the N.O. system & Demps badly wants a solid sf that can be a great wing player as well .
Divac is getting a ton of calls so anyone who really wants Gay better move fast . Kings will not continue waiting as Divac is highly motivated to get a deal done that he feels will push us into the playoffs though he will not do a deal for the sake of doing a deal .

I've heard via our sources that there are more packages out there that to me, would be more enticing than what Sacramento would offer. Problem with that is I'm not Dell Demps and I don't always agree with his moves lol. Kind of seems like both of the teams "sources" are speaking different languages, which isn't surprising. Both seem trustworthy. I've heard McLemore has been discussed quite a bit. Will be interesting to see what happens with all involved parties.

Well I am not going to claim Mclemore can't be part of a N.O deal if one is to happen . What I can tell you is that so far his name has not been mentioned at all in any trade with N.O. and it is not likely he will .
Mclemore is not untouchable by any means but any package with Gay involved being sent to N.O. will not include Mac as well .
Only chance for N.O. to get both of would be if a 3rd team got involved were we got Anderson & another player & or pick from that 3rd team .
Don't get your hopes up on Mac . If N.O. really wants Gay they are now in a spot were as they will have to start deciding what they are really going to / willing to do because we have soooooooooooooooo many teams coming after Gay & though other teams want Anderson as well . The difference is Gay has additional years left on this cap friendly contract while Anderson will be a F/A .
A lot easier for teams to feel more secure & offering up better deals for a player whom is guaranteed not to go anywhere else unless that team decides to re-trade him than it is for a player whom will be a F/A & possibly have no interest in resigning him .

Tick Tock Time is running out .

[Castor_Troy]

Eric Gordon (broken right ring finger) is expected to be sidelined for at least the next 4-6 weeks, according to sources of Scott Kushner.

Well that might throw a wrench into any trade plans with NO if the Kings were hoping to get Gordon back as part of a package.

[dozencousins]

Eric Gordon (broken right ring finger) is expected to be sidelined for at least the next 4-6 weeks, according to sources of Scott Kushner.

Well that might throw a wrench into any trade plans with NO if the Kings were hoping to get Gordon back as part of a package.

Exactly correct :

I was getting ready to update everyone however because I see this post that has a bit to do with my update I will post info here .

Update : A deal with us & the Pelicans is not nearly as likely as it was before . The trade info I posted originally on page 4 or so on this thread was the deal that was most likely to happen based on players of consideration , position of need / want & salaries matching now unless a 3rd team can get involved which is not looking good right now a deal between us & N.O. is close to being dead .
For a deal between the 2 of us to get done N.O. would need to get very creative & very fast .
I will say if their was something N.O. would give up that the T-wolves wanted it is possible that we could land both Anderson & k.Martin having N.O. still land Gay while Wolves receiving fillers ? ( unknown ) . I don't see this happening but I do know we would like to get K.Martins veteran leadership at the SG position but will not overpay to get him either .

Gordon's injury is an exact example of how teams sometimes risk losing a good deal by waiting to long . All NBA teams know now that either N.O. will now have a fire sale with the exception of Davis or will now not have to ask as high of a price for it's tradable players to get a deal done . Demps has to act fast now as his job could be on the line as N.O. was easily projected to be a playoff team coming into this season.

Front runners to land Gay as of now are : Clippers , Bulls & Grizzlies

If I hear anything more I will try & let everyone know .
My source is supposed to call me later but no guarantee on that as sometimes we all get busy or don't have the time .

[City of Trees]

I saw an LA article (I know) that rumored Rudy Gay, Ben McLemore, and Koufus for Hibbert, Nance Jr., and Lou Williams

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[WarriorsLakers]

I saw an LA article (I know) that rumored Rudy Gay, Ben McLemore, and Koufus for Hibbert, Nance Jr., and Lou Williams

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link?

[City of Trees]

I saw an LA article (I know) that rumored Rudy Gay, Ben McLemore, and Koufus for Hibbert, Nance Jr., and Lou Williams

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link?

It's nothing more than throwing out an idea, but here you go

http://www.inquisitr.com/2720425/la-lakers-rumors-team-could-deal-away-roy-hibbert-and-trade-for-this-small-forward/

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[SacSanity]

I saw an LA article (I know) that rumored Rudy Gay, Ben McLemore, and Koufus for Hibbert, Nance Jr., and Lou Williams

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link?

It's nothing more than throwing out an idea, but here you go

http://www.inquisitr.com/2720425/la-lakers-rumors-team-could-deal-away-roy-hibbert-and-trade-for-this-small-forward/

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They should throw that idea out the door!

[City of Trees]

link?

It's nothing more than throwing out an idea, but here you go

http://www.inquisitr.com/2720425/la-lakers-rumors-team-could-deal-away-roy-hibbert-and-trade-for-this-small-forward/

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They should throw that idea out the door!

That was my thought.

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