Game 43: Indiana Pacers (22-19) at Phoenix Suns (13-29)
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You guys want to see an insane Brandon Knight statistic. This guy says he wants to be the main ballhandler and has said publicly he is a point guard. Well let's compare Knight's last four games including tonight versus Chris Paul's last four games:
Knight's last four games: 13 assists and 22 turnovers
Paul's last four games: 42 assists and 12 turnovers
Now before anyone says wait, Knight is not a point guard, he is a shooting guard! Okay, let's look at Knight's last four games when it comes to shooting:
Knight's last four games: 43% fg and 26% 3 pts on 20 shots a game.
So basically Knight looks bad at either guard position. It does not matter. Definitely not worth the money he is making.
Knight's last four games: 13 assists and 22 turnovers
Paul's last four games: 42 assists and 12 turnovers
Now before anyone says wait, Knight is not a point guard, he is a shooting guard! Okay, let's look at Knight's last four games when it comes to shooting:
Knight's last four games: 43% fg and 26% 3 pts on 20 shots a game.
So basically Knight looks bad at either guard position. It does not matter. Definitely not worth the money he is making.
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Blackification wrote:shut up eddie there was nothing wrong with that play let us tank

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Entertaining game. Even w/o Warren.
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bwgood77 wrote:I still think I will congratulate him on the almost triple double and mention the turnovers. I tweeted him the other night about 20 shots and 1 assist.
Someone should hold him accountable. This team's leaders and coach certainly don't.
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AtheJ415 wrote:bwgood77 wrote:I still think I will congratulate him on the almost triple double and mention the turnovers. I tweeted him the other night about 20 shots and 1 assist.
Someone should hold him accountable. This team's leaders and coach certainly don't.
I don't think he responds to anyone, thus being traded two times before hitting second contract. I know you are super high on having Brandon Knight, but not a good trade imo.
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Good tanking day. Although it would've been better for us if Minnesota won. But we should lose 4 of the next 5 at the least, and honestly 5 out of 5 is doable with how we've been playing. We just need Brooklyn and LAL and MN to win a couple.
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Len matched Chandler's output, even with a below average game and being 12 years younger.
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Booker singlehandedly willed this sorry bunch of scallywags into cutting that massive lead to single digits. We were another clutch trey away from sending it into OT. Without him this would have even been worse than the Minny meltdown
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Hornacek pulls T.J. Warren after Paul George outworks him for a loose ball. Don’t like to see a lack of effort from young guys like that...
https://mobile.twitter.com/GeraldBourguet/status/689651806855507968
Now , I understand Hornacek.....
Amazing performance by Booker, so pure and crafty, I love his all around game but his shooting stroke is outstanding.
McDonough is really good in the draft...we just need a good coach to use our youngsters better.
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bwgood77 wrote:I still think I will congratulate him on the almost triple double and mention the turnovers. I tweeted him the other night about 20 shots and 1 assist.
I was a bit more forward
[tweet]https://twitter.com/KimchiKing113/status/689652260175945728[/tweet]
MrMiyagi wrote:Lob to DA for the win
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Saberestar wrote:Hornacek pulls T.J. Warren after Paul George outworks him for a loose ball. Don’t like to see a lack of effort from young guys like that...
https://mobile.twitter.com/GeraldBourguet/status/689651806855507968
Now , I understand Hornacek.....
Amazing performance by Booker, so pure and crafty, I love his all around game but his shooting stroke is outstanding.
McDonough is really good in the draft...we just need a good coach to use our youngsters better.
hahahahha
this is amazing.
oh my god
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1UPZ wrote:Booker could lead the NBA in 3pt percentage this season if he continues to get good minutes. Such a good shooter already.
Booker is shooting 48.6% from 3 point range after this game. If he goes 4 for 4 from 3 point range next game he'll be the league leader (51.3 % + meets the minimum amount of 3 pointers made to qualify)
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bwgood77 wrote:AtheJ415 wrote:bwgood77 wrote:I still think I will congratulate him on the almost triple double and mention the turnovers. I tweeted him the other night about 20 shots and 1 assist.
Someone should hold him accountable. This team's leaders and coach certainly don't.
I don't think he responds to anyone, thus being traded two times before hitting second contract. I know you are super high on having Brandon Knight, but not a good trade imo.
I'm not super high on having him. I'm just equally low on having a coach who plays him league leading minutes, and I'm also less high on the real value of protected picks than many here. Although I've said plenty of times that I'd rather have Dunn, so I'm not saying we necessarily won that trade in the slightest. It depends where that pick ends up and who is there. I think Knight could be good with discipline, but the way you get through to a guy like him, or hell, ANY player, is not by playing him league leading minutes. I don't believe for 1 second that he's really been coached or held accountable to having to play smart basketball. Honracek plays him tons of minutes regardless of what he does on the court. No coach can teach a guy discipline by doing that.
Then, on the other side of the coin, he plays Warren no minutes randomly. Even Booker disappeared from the lineup after a strong first game for about the next 10 or so. You also can't get discipline by playing favorites. Jeff does both, and everyone wonders why we have shown ZERO improvement when it comes to playing smart, fundamentally sound basketball.
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I tuned in late to the game and just saw the last few minutes. Booker had a monster offensive game with 32 points , but had zero rebounds and only 2 assists in 40 minutes of play. Obviously he was shooting well tonight, but where was the rest of his game?
Also, what little I saw looked like he was running the point, while Knight was playing off the ball. The future of this team runs squarely through Boooker.
Also, what little I saw looked like he was running the point, while Knight was playing off the ball. The future of this team runs squarely through Boooker.
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I think Knight doesnt even check/use his twitter anymore.
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Booker in beast mode. Hornacek in tank mode. Today was a good day 

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Mr Puddles wrote:1UPZ wrote:Booker could lead the NBA in 3pt percentage this season if he continues to get good minutes. Such a good shooter already.
Booker is shooting 48.6% from 3 point range after this game. If he goes 4 for 4 from 3 point range next game he'll be the league leader (51.3 % + meets the minimum amount of 3 pointers made to qualify)
I think he will give Steph a run for his money. I can see him leading the league in eFG% a couple of years down the road if he can continue to get to the line at a solid rate
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bwgood77 wrote:I still think I will congratulate him on the almost triple double and mention the turnovers. I tweeted him the other night about 20 shots and 1 assist.
And he overachieved with 4.

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TJ called Hornacek a lil bitch
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Cutter wrote:I tuned in late to the game and just saw the last few minutes. Booker had a monster offensive game with 32 points , but had zero rebounds and only 2 assists in 40 minutes of play. Obviously he was shooting well tonight, but where was the rest of his game?
Also, what little I saw looked like he was running the point, while Knight was playing off the ball. The future of this team runs squarely through Boooker.
Give him a break. He is a 19 year old rookie. He just scored the most points by a Suns rookie since Amare was a rookie. He also just set the Suns rookie record for most threes in a game with 6. What more do you want from him right now? He was amazing tonight.