SacTown916 wrote:City of Trees wrote:WarriorsLakers wrote:
link?
It's nothing more than throwing out an idea, but here you go
http://www.inquisitr.com/2720425/la-lakers-rumors-team-could-deal-away-roy-hibbert-and-trade-for-this-small-forward/
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They should throw that idea out the door!
dozencousins wrote:I mentioned just yesterday that the Lakers were one of the teams we are in talks with . Yes that is true .
If we trade with the Lakers Clarkson would have to be in any deal for Gay .
Names mentioned are Clarkson , Hibbert , Williams , Young & Nance Jr.
We don't really care that much about Hibbert but to Land Clarkson & Nance Jr. we might be wiling to take on Hibbert as if he doesn't work out he is an expiring deal .
I heard that if Williams is included in any deal it would have to be either he going to a 3rd team or he would be part of a much bigger deal as Kings don't really want his 3 years & no need to acquire 2 x PG position .
If we acquire Hibbert then Koufas is likely getting dealt . We have Cousins , Stein & Koufas as Bigs no need to keep a 4th that would put Koufas as odd man out .
I do not see us taking Hibbert but if we took him I know we are getting either Clarkson or Russell in the deal & that would leave Clarkson as the more likely of those 2 .
I am telling everyone the GAY sweepstakes is really heating up we have had even more teams contact us about him today alone .
A trade will happen reasonably soon IMO however with all the offers we are being flooded with that is what is taking so long now for any deal to happen . Kings are sorting out what they feel the best deal for them would be plus the longer this drags out Kings are getting better & better offers as more teams all covet the same guy .
More teams trying to get Gay as well : Celtics , & Rockets are just 2 more notable teams to add to the list I sent yesterday however their are more .
I do not think Ben would be part of a deal sent to the Lakers but anything is possible .
codydaze wrote:dozencousins wrote:I mentioned just yesterday that the Lakers were one of the teams we are in talks with . Yes that is true .
If we trade with the Lakers Clarkson would have to be in any deal for Gay .
Names mentioned are Clarkson , Hibbert , Williams , Young & Nance Jr.
We don't really care that much about Hibbert but to Land Clarkson & Nance Jr. we might be wiling to take on Hibbert as if he doesn't work out he is an expiring deal .
I heard that if Williams is included in any deal it would have to be either he going to a 3rd team or he would be part of a much bigger deal as Kings don't really want his 3 years & no need to acquire 2 x PG position .
If we acquire Hibbert then Koufas is likely getting dealt . We have Cousins , Stein & Koufas as Bigs no need to keep a 4th that would put Koufas as odd man out .
I do not see us taking Hibbert but if we took him I know we are getting either Clarkson or Russell in the deal & that would leave Clarkson as the more likely of those 2 .
I am telling everyone the GAY sweepstakes is really heating up we have had even more teams contact us about him today alone .
A trade will happen reasonably soon IMO however with all the offers we are being flooded with that is what is taking so long now for any deal to happen . Kings are sorting out what they feel the best deal for them would be plus the longer this drags out Kings are getting better & better offers as more teams all covet the same guy .
More teams trying to get Gay as well : Celtics , & Rockets are just 2 more notable teams to add to the list I sent yesterday however their are more .
I do not think Ben would be part of a deal sent to the Lakers but anything is possible .
Any chance a deal with Houston would land Ariza? Something like Gay for Ariza+Beverly maybe? or Ariza and Terrence Jones? I would be happy with that. Also what time frame do you expect a move to be made? Within a week or closer to the deadline? Thanks for the info!
dozencousins wrote:Again teams with greatest chances of landing Gay are .
Pelicans : Only if Anderson is part of the deal & likely a 3rd team has to get involved now most likely
Clippers : players mentioned though not all part of any deal . Stephenson , Redick ,Pierce ( not likely ) & Crawford
Bulls : Gibson , Mirotic , Mcdermott , possibly Gasol & Noah (not likely last 2 names mentioned )
Grizzlies : Lee , Allen ( likely a draft pick)
Lakers : Clarkson or Russell ( Clarkson more likely ) Nance Jr. + combinations of Young , Hibbert & Williams any of them could possibly be in some kind of package with us or a 3rd team
Celtics : D.Lee , E. turner a #1 draft pick as they own so many all possibilities ( lee ) would require us adding a second player if we traded Boston GAY
Those are are most likely trade partners for Gay we have had calls come from teams as well such as :
76ers , ( no deal likely ) Bucks , Suns ( no deal likely ) , Magic , Charlotte , Wolves & Denver ( I find them as being interesting & odd only because our last coach & Gm being their ) I don't see that happening though .
WarriorsLakers wrote:dozencousins wrote:Again teams with greatest chances of landing Gay are .
Pelicans : Only if Anderson is part of the deal & likely a 3rd team has to get involved now most likely
Clippers : players mentioned though not all part of any deal . Stephenson , Redick ,Pierce ( not likely ) & Crawford
Bulls : Gibson , Mirotic , Mcdermott , possibly Gasol & Noah (not likely last 2 names mentioned )
Grizzlies : Lee , Allen ( likely a draft pick)
Lakers : Clarkson or Russell ( Clarkson more likely ) Nance Jr. + combinations of Young , Hibbert & Williams any of them could possibly be in some kind of package with us or a 3rd team
Celtics : D.Lee , E. turner a #1 draft pick as they own so many all possibilities ( lee ) would require us adding a second player if we traded Boston GAY
Those are are most likely trade partners for Gay we have had calls come from teams as well such as :
76ers , ( no deal likely ) Bucks , Suns ( no deal likely ) , Magic , Charlotte , Wolves & Denver ( I find them as being interesting & odd only because our last coach & Gm being their ) I don't see that happening though .
thanks for your information and i personally think unless its Cousins, Russell is untouchable. unless its WCS, Clarkson is untouchable.
adding Gay now only adds unnecessary wins for the lakers which we would hate as we have top 3 protected pick.
nance + Clarkson for Gay? no way.
thanks again, not saying what u r telling is lie but giving my opinion on the guys discussed
dozencousins wrote:I disagree about Clarkson & Russell being untouchable with the exception of Cousins & Stein .
That said yes I agree if the Lakers are hoping for the #1 then Yes do not trade for Gay .
That said the Lakers are more concerned with not losing more fan base to the Clippers etc. than they are of getting the #1 pick .
Lakers will do everything they can to get good right away as early as next season or at least that's their hope . What they have now doesn't even come close to cutting it . Gay gives them a reliable scorer .
I do not see the Lakers as being the more probable trade partner at all . I never said they were . I said we have had talks with them & continue to do so . I stand by that firmly . I mean no disrespect in saying this but I don't care whom doesn't believe me at the end of the day . I am only reporting what I know .
I am very reliable on information . Again 99.9 % of all trades talked about never happen so that does not by any means say a deal between us will happen on the contrary I don't think we will do a deal between us but I know that talks between us are real . Believe what you want .
WarriorsLakers wrote:dozencousins wrote:I disagree about Clarkson & Russell being untouchable with the exception of Cousins & Stein .
That said yes I agree if the Lakers are hoping for the #1 then Yes do not trade for Gay .
That said the Lakers are more concerned with not losing more fan base to the Clippers etc. than they are of getting the #1 pick .
Lakers will do everything they can to get good right away as early as next season or at least that's their hope . What they have now doesn't even come close to cutting it . Gay gives them a reliable scorer .
I do not see the Lakers as being the more probable trade partner at all . I never said they were . I said we have had talks with them & continue to do so . I stand by that firmly . I mean no disrespect in saying this but I don't care whom doesn't believe me at the end of the day . I am only reporting what I know .
I am very reliable on information . Again 99.9 % of all trades talked about never happen so that does not by any means say a deal between us will happen on the contrary I don't think we will do a deal between us but I know that talks between us are real . Believe what you want .
agreed and i believe u have legit information. I just think we won't trade clarkson for gay. now WCS in a bit. nance has showed he can play. so from my perspective i would not trade nance + clarkson for Gay. nance + clarkson for WCS? sure
are there any talks for WCS? thats the only guy i want if not cousins
dozencousins wrote:WarriorsLakers wrote:dozencousins wrote:I disagree about Clarkson & Russell being untouchable with the exception of Cousins & Stein .
That said yes I agree if the Lakers are hoping for the #1 then Yes do not trade for Gay .
That said the Lakers are more concerned with not losing more fan base to the Clippers etc. than they are of getting the #1 pick .
Lakers will do everything they can to get good right away as early as next season or at least that's their hope . What they have now doesn't even come close to cutting it . Gay gives them a reliable scorer .
I do not see the Lakers as being the more probable trade partner at all . I never said they were . I said we have had talks with them & continue to do so . I stand by that firmly . I mean no disrespect in saying this but I don't care whom doesn't believe me at the end of the day . I am only reporting what I know .
I am very reliable on information . Again 99.9 % of all trades talked about never happen so that does not by any means say a deal between us will happen on the contrary I don't think we will do a deal between us but I know that talks between us are real . Believe what you want .
agreed and i believe u have legit information. I just think we won't trade clarkson for gay. now WCS in a bit. nance has showed he can play. so from my perspective i would not trade nance + clarkson for Gay. nance + clarkson for WCS? sure
are there any talks for WCS? thats the only guy i want if not cousins
Neither Cuz or Stein as of now have been mentioned . I believe the only way the Lakers could have a chance to land Cuz is 1 of 2 ways & even this is a big maybe .
1. Lakers land the # 1 pick & trade that plus Young talent fillers for Cuz
2. Cuz outright demands a trade to the Lakers ( Even if that happened Sac holds the cards & does not have to trade him there )
I just don't see our teams doing a deal but again anything is possible and yes our teams are talking
PetrieUnderstudy wrote:I don't like any of these "rumored" trades. I'd likely take Ariza and Beverley from Rockets for Gay then try to send Collison out for a SG, maybe to Memphis for Lee. Replacing Gay and Collison with Ariza, Beverley, and Lee would address one of our biggest weaknesses in guard and perimeter defense. Wonder what Rondo would think of his buddy Gay being traded. I like Anderson but why trade Gay for him when Kings would likely have good shot at signing him as FA.
As a long time fan and season ticket holder I appreciate management wanting to make playoffs but I think they could make it with current roster and then tweak things in off season. They don't need act hastily.
nolafan33 wrote:Pels sources have indicated Gordon's injury has not effected his trade value in the least, fwiw. He should be back or nearing to being back by the deadline, so teams are not worried about him missing major time down the stretch or in the playoffs.
nolafan33 wrote:Pels sources have indicated Gordon's injury has not effected his trade value in the least, fwiw. He should be back or nearing to being back by the deadline, so teams are not worried about him missing major time down the stretch or in the playoffs.
PetrieUnderstudy wrote:I don't like any of these "rumored" trades. I'd likely take Ariza and Beverley from Rockets for Gay then try to send Collison out for a SG, maybe to Memphis for Lee. Replacing Gay and Collison with Ariza, Beverley, and Lee would address one of our biggest weaknesses in guard and perimeter defense. Wonder what Rondo would think of his buddy Gay being traded. I like Anderson but why trade Gay for him when Kings would likely have good shot at signing him as FA.
As a long time fan and season ticket holder I appreciate management wanting to make playoffs but I think they could make it with current roster and then tweak things in off season. They don't need act hastily.
dozencousins wrote:nolafan33 wrote:Pels sources have indicated Gordon's injury has not effected his trade value in the least, fwiw. He should be back or nearing to being back by the deadline, so teams are not worried about him missing major time down the stretch or in the playoffs.
If your out 4-6 weeks it does take away that exact deal & his value . He is not likely back before the deadline & even if he does come back before it won't be much before & then his health is in serious issue as his prior injuries the last couple of years & now this .
nolafan33 wrote:dozencousins wrote:nolafan33 wrote:Pels sources have indicated Gordon's injury has not effected his trade value in the least, fwiw. He should be back or nearing to being back by the deadline, so teams are not worried about him missing major time down the stretch or in the playoffs.
If your out 4-6 weeks it does take away that exact deal & his value . He is not likely back before the deadline & even if he does come back before it won't be much before & then his health is in serious issue as his prior injuries the last couple of years & now this .
Once teams really dig in on Gordon his value will be driven down by his character and antics more than his health. There are things that happened, things that he did for a long time, that led to his "health." Whether he can stay healthy isn't the question teams will be asking, it's going to be how much has he grown up? Who is he as a person right now? His health isn't the factor here, that's been all but confirmed by multiple people in the New Orleans circles.