More value to Pistons - Reggie or Stanimal?

Laimbeer · Post #1 » by **Laimbeer** » Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:05 pm

With trades getting bounced around on the other board, I found myself wondering if it would be harder to give up Reggie or Stanimal.

Maker_84 · Post #2 » by **Maker_84** » Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:48 pm

easily Reggie. Stanley is very small for his position while Reggie is super rare because of his supposed 6'11 or 7'0 wingspan

whitehops · Post #3 » by **whitehops** » Thu Jan 21, 2016 1:24 pm

Maker_84 wrote:easily Reggie. Stanley is very small for his position while Reggie is super rare because of his supposed 6'11 or 7'0 wingspan

You always being so obsessed with size makes me think I'm on to something...

hoophabit · Post #4 » by **hoophabit** » Thu Jan 21, 2016 1:29 pm

I'm not sure why the title of the thread and the poll are different, but the answer is the same and it's Reggie. Stanley is a 19 YO rookie. He'd be very easy to trade, assuming you'd want to? A team would have to conclude they want and can afford Reggie's contract. Odd question though, as it's kind of apples and oranges?

Maker, right answer wrong rationale. I love reading your despairing and disparaging posts, but SJ is not "very small for his position." :lol:

Laimbeer · Post #5 » by **Laimbeer** » Thu Jan 21, 2016 2:43 pm

hoophabit wrote:I'm not sure why the title of the thread and the poll are different, but the answer is the same and it's Reggie. Stanley is a 19 YO rookie. He'd be very easy to trade, assuming you'd want to? A team would have to conclude they want and can afford Reggie's contract. Odd question though, as it's kind of apples and oranges?

Maker, right answer wrong rationale. I love reading your despairing and disparaging posts, but SJ is not "very small for his position."

Changed title to make it consistent.

Pugz · Post #6 » by **Pugz** » Thu Jan 21, 2016 2:47 pm

reggie is playing at an all star level, and i dont think its a fluke and he'll continue to get better as the team gets better. itd be harder for me to give that up, rather stanley.

stanley is obviously super young and could have all the potential in the world. his former is broken as hell though. until his shot gets better, it'll hold him back. i like what he brings outside of scoring the ball, though. he still needs time but id value reggie over him for years to come.

hoophabit · Post #7 » by **hoophabit** » Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:35 pm

Pugz wrote:reggie is playing at an all star level, and i dont think its a fluke and he'll continue to get better as the team gets better. itd be harder for me to give that up, rather stanley.

stanley is obviously super young and could have all the potential in the world. his former is broken as hell though. until his shot gets better, it'll hold him back. i like what he brings outside of scoring the ball, though. he still needs time but id value reggie over him for years to come.

Jackson likely will be more valuable for a while, years I suppose. SJ's problem is that he's too confident, aggressive, and assertive. He forces things and takes bad shots. I don't think his form is broken. Too small? The guy is a fireplug swing man who isn't bullied in the paint and defends hard on the perimeter? He rebounds well. He's a willing passer. In height and reach he might be a little below average. In heart and strength he's well above. (Ben Wallace was also 'too small.') Kelser sees it, for sure. He's making people feel him and he's just a kid. SVG loves him, even though he drives him crazy sometimes. You have to give him an A for Attitude? :lol:

Laimbeer · Post #8 » by **Laimbeer** » Thu Jan 21, 2016 4:01 pm

Surprised it's unanimous for Reggie right now. Pay and potentail are two factors for Stanley. I can't see Reggie getting a lot better and there are some warts to his game. Stanley is a kid.

Pugz · Post #9 » by **Pugz** » Thu Jan 21, 2016 5:35 pm

hoophabit wrote:
Pugz wrote:reggie is playing at an all star level, and i dont think its a fluke and he'll continue to get better as the team gets better. itd be harder for me to give that up, rather stanley.

stanley is obviously super young and could have all the potential in the world. his former is broken as hell though. until his shot gets better, it'll hold him back. i like what he brings outside of scoring the ball, though. he still needs time but id value reggie over him for years to come.

Jackson likely will be more valuable for a while, years I suppose. SJ's problem is that he's too confident, aggressive, and assertive. He forces things and takes bad shots. I don't think his form is broken. Too small? The guy is a fireplug swing man who isn't bullied in the paint and defends hard on the perimeter? He rebounds well. He's a willing passer. In height and reach he might be a little below average. In heart and strength he's well above. (Ben Wallace was also 'too small.') Kelser sees it, for sure. He's making people feel him and he's just a kid. SVG loves him, even though he drives him crazy sometimes. You have to give him an A for Attitude?

i didnt say he was too small. and sj's form is broken. hes not square at all. can he make it work? maybe, but he needs to work on it. i like how if hes slumping he does other things to keep his confidence high. i do like the kid but i dont see the superstar potential other fans see. i obviously want to see him stick around the team for a long time though.

Todd3 · Post #10 » by **Todd3** » Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:58 pm

whitehops wrote:
Maker_84 wrote:easily Reggie. Stanley is very small for his position while Reggie is super rare because of his supposed 6'11 or 7'0 wingspan

You always being so obsessed with size makes me think I'm on to something...

He must have hated Ben Wallace lol

tmorgan · Post #11 » by **tmorgan** » Thu Jan 21, 2016 10:33 pm

I'd rather trade Reggie, given a choice, but he's also far more valuable, and that kind of trade would likely kill us short term.

joedumars1 · Post #12 » by **joedumars1** » Thu Jan 21, 2016 10:51 pm

It Reggie as of now. In 2-3 years idk. I love what i'm seeing from Stanimal, that point forward, jack knife player. I can't wait to see him 2 years from now

coordinator0 · Post #13 » by **coordinator0** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 12:05 am

Reggie has more value to the team right now. I don't think anybody can question that. He's excelling as the starting point guard of the team even if he has some shortcomings (most players do, even the big stars). Going forward he probably will be more important than Johnson too. Stanimal would have to develop into quite the wing scorer/defender/facilitator to be more important than Jackson, especially in Van Gundy's system and the team being built around Drummond.

Jennings looks like a guy coming off of a serious Achilles injury too. Any thought of re-signing him and moving on from Reggie should be put to rest.

Post #14 » by **Timmaytime** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 12:30 am

Laimbeer wrote:Surprised it's unanimous for Reggie right now. Pay and potentail are two factors for Stanley. I can't see Reggie getting a lot better and there are some warts to his game. Stanley is a kid.

You said more value to the Pistons, not more value in trades. For the foreseeable future, Reggie will be more valuable to us, he's winning us games, simple as that