Don't Be Hurtin' Lin - The Jeremy Lin Thread 2

[platinumnyc]

I don't think anyone was arguing that Dragic is overpaid and Lin is underpaid, the point is Lin is not a 15M player based on his past performances which includes this year's play, but he is certainly worth more than what he is earning now.

[RealHusky]

I don't think anyone was arguing that Dragic is overpaid and Lin is underpaid, the point is Lin is not a 15M player based on his past performances which includes this year's play, but he is certainly worth more than what he is earning now.

Or maybe that's just the market. Lin isn't much different than guys like Brandon Knight, Reggie Jackson, or Goran Dragic. Each of these guys all got paid $15M+ this off season. If Lin is able to land a starting job, I think he should get something similar.

I am still in the opinion that Hornets should start Lin at PG and Kemba at SG. They can switch on D where Kemba guard the PG and Lin the SG. Offense will flow better with Lin at PG. We will never know because Hornets is committed to Kemba at PG regardless what's happening on the court.

[Vae Victus]

If Dantoni sticks around in PHI as assistant coach and he convinces their FO to sign Lin to be their starting PG, i see Lin going there even if they dont offer him top dollar.

Dantoni for all his faults (and as a laker fan i sure as hell saw alot of em) he IS an offensive mastermind. He'll make Lin look good (as he does with any PG really) and they'll be alot of fun to watch if they draft someone like Ben Simmons or Ingram. Give Lin a free flowing offense, bigs who can finish, and a coach who will believe in him... well it's the best opportunity Lin will ever get in his career. It'll make or break him and PHI will likely be the lucky recipient of another sweetheart deal similar to what CHA got. However the upside for Lin would be tremendous if things play out like i said.

I hope not.... i want Simmons for my Lakers, although if one were to ask me which i would choose. Linsanity 2 Lin's Truly Arrived, or Rebuilt into a Contender in a Jiffy D'Angelo Russel, Ben Simmons, and 2 Superstars FA show... i'm honestly torn... well ok, if the Lakers are guaranteed a coupla chips in that window, sorry Lin, i gotta go with the chips

[kastuul]

This team has no bigs and they want Lin as SG only.

I know Lin can play D on SG position. But SF ? It is too much for him.

[tonman]

the fact is both Lin and Dragic both were UFA last summer, one got a 85millions/5 years, the other got 4.3millions/2 years...
batum will get paid this off season, it's not far fetched if Batum earn 2-3 times more than Lin next season.....
top guys in their position will get paid, much much more than middling guys... that's how UFA works
versatile two way wings will get paid big money, be it Batum or somebody else.... not so much for PGs though, which is the most stacked position in NBA...

How much did David west get again?

[KM6]

the fact is both Lin and Dragic both were UFA last summer, one got a 85millions/5 years, the other got 4.3millions/2 years...
batum will get paid this off season, it's not far fetched if Batum earn 2-3 times more than Lin next season.....
top guys in their position will get paid, much much more than middling guys... that's how UFA works
versatile two way wings will get paid big money, be it Batum or somebody else.... not so much for PGs though, which is the most stacked position in NBA...

How much did David west get again?

David West got paid already during his career, he is chasing a ring for the minimum. Lin is obviously not chasing a ring here this season.

[bigbob]

lin will get paid his worth. You guys shouldn't worry about it, he is already filthy rich and anything over $5 mill/yr is good enough in my eyes. I just hope he keeps improving his game while on the hornets this season, and next season gets signed somewhere that is more functional.

[TinmanZBoy]

#overbearing

[gafun]

lin will get paid his worth. You guys shouldn't worry about it, he is already filthy rich and anything over $5 mill/yr is good enough in my eyes. I just hope he keeps improving his game while on the hornets this season, and next season gets signed somewhere that is more functional.

I agree with you. I do not think Lin would sign next contract based on the value of the contract. He said many times that he would be happy as long as he can enjoy playing basket ball - i think he cares more about team ball, playing time and play style (pg and PnR). The size of the contract for next season could be between 5m to 12m depends the performance of next 41 games and how much he likes/fits the team. 15m is unlikely next season because you can tell the coach would not give him much chance to develop or play his strength, even when Kemba and Batum are not on the court.

[hood30]

The problem for Lin is the money divide between starter and backup. If a team believes he can come in and be their guy, as a starter, then there's no reason to believe he CAN'T net 8 figures annually given the current cap landscape. However most backups make, well, what Lin got paid this year. So it comes down to the starter/backup distinction.

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What about Lin as Ginobili-lite 6th man? That's kind of how he's used on the Hornets now. That's how he was used in Houston in the 2nd season and how other clubs may see him as well. So maybe it isn't starter or backup because Lin isn't really either one and is really a backup in terms of literally backing up Kemba and Batum when either is out. But he's more than a 2nd unit guy, he's not that exclusively.

Agree with this...With MKG back, his defensive pedigree means he will most likely be the one to close out game...That leaves Lin on the bench...Also, Lin's minutes will diminish in general with the presence of MKG...although the math are there for Clifford to give Lin 25mpg but that would mean 31mpg for Kemba and Batum.

[bws94]

The problem for Lin is the money divide between starter and backup. If a team believes he can come in and be their guy, as a starter, then there's no reason to believe he CAN'T net 8 figures annually given the current cap landscape. However most backups make, well, what Lin got paid this year. So it comes down to the starter/backup distinction.

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What about Lin as Ginobili-lite 6th man? That's kind of how he's used on the Hornets now. That's how he was used in Houston in the 2nd season and how other clubs may see him as well. So maybe it isn't starter or backup because Lin isn't really either one and is really a backup in terms of literally backing up Kemba and Batum when either is out. But he's more than a 2nd unit guy, he's not that exclusively.

Agree with this...With MKG back, his defensive pedigree means he will most likely be the one to close out game...That leaves Lin on the bench...Also, Lin's minutes will diminish in general with the presence of MKG...although the math are there for Clifford to give Lin 25mpg but that would mean 31mpg for Kemba and Batum.

I don't know how much Lin's minutes will go down. Batum's have to go down as well as Kemba's. Clifford has said that (down from the 40 minutes sometimes they play). 25 mpg, maybe. He's now around 27-28, so 25 is a bit less. He'll still play a good amount I think. But closing, Lin still has that ability to get teams in the foul penalty and get to the line. And he's a solid defensive player in his own rite. I think it may depend on big vs. small, but Marvin makes more sense to stay in the closing lineup to guard bigs and rebound while MKG guards the toughest opponent. It's not that easy a decision for Cliff to make. But it's obvious with Lin trying to guard Middleton that a big 2 will shoot over Lin regardless of how good Lin D's him up.

[Roy Tarpley]

With Al and MKG both coming back, this is the minutes distribution I'd like to see:

PG: Kemba (32); Lin (16)
SG: Batum (16); Lin (14); Lamb (18)
SF: MKG (24); Batum (16); Hairston (8)
PF: Zeller (24); Williams (24)
C: Jefferson (24); Kaminsky (16); Hawes (8)

I don't think Lin will or should be losing all that many minutes with MKG back. MKG's 24 minutes should come mostly from PJ and a little from Marvin. Also, in terms of the closing lineup, I'd prefer Kemba, Lin, Batum, MKG, and Frank.

[fatlever]

for the record, MKG is not a lock to close out games, especially if we are losing. Clifford has often sat MKG in the last 5 minutes while chasing offense.

[Sauce_Castillo]

for the record, MKG is not a lock to close out games, especially if we are losing. Clifford has often sat MKG in the last 5 minutes while chasing offense.

He did in the past, but last year that was very rare. MKG IMO is already a good offensive player, he is a great break starter off rebounds which we have none of this season, he is always moving and in the rights spots on offense, and is one of the best cutters in NBA which makes it hard for teams to double off him. I think especially with the passing ability of Batum MKG will get 3-4 easy basket cut layups per game, along with his patented offensive rebounding and smart passing. Idk I could be wrong but I think MKG will avg more points than Lamb does on better field goal %.

[bws94]

One of the biggest debates I get into with fans on Lin boards is whether Lin should a) start and b) play PG. I think Lin coming off of the bench is fine so long as he can be a closer on a team. And I think if Lin gets sufficient touches and facilitates, it doesn't matter if he's PG or SG because he's combo-minded at both. Is Lin more scoring or passing minded? I think passing but he dribbles a lot and looks like he may score and that sets up his passing. When Kemba is on, Lin doesn't always have to look for Kemba to bring the ball up. I think a mistake the team makes is not to see Lin mid court before defenses form in front of Kemba and pass it to him and then Lin pushes the pace. That's his strength, not half court trying to dribble under pressure PG. Lin can be a change of pace facilitator to Batum and Kemba when offense is at its best. This is a multi-facilitator system where 2 are on the court most of the time. As it is now, Lin will play repeated set up PG no longer than about 10-12 minutes. But that doesn't mean he doesn't facilitate unless he gets no touches. Each touch, there's a chance to.

[fatlever]

I should keep this pic handy for gamethreads.

[spaceballer]

Coach Nick of BBall Breakdown just tweeted his new breakdown video today.

BBALLBREAKDOWN
‏@bballbreakdown

Why Jeremy Lin Is Elite in the Pick And Roll (and why the Hornets need to play him more): https://youtu.be/B-JEkpMmRIo

https://twitter.com/bballbreakdown/status/690326946643750912

I'm not sure I totally agree. The Hornets just don't have a good pick and roll finishing big to partner with Lin. If he's doing well without a good pick-and-roll big, he should do better if he moves to a team that has one in the summer (assuming the Hornets don't pick up one).

[spaceballer]

Jeremy Lin's portrait will to be on exhibit in the Charlotte Museum of History.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/Loveforlife0323/status/690307894223339520[/tweet]
https://twitter.com/Loveforlife0323/status/690307894223339520

It's being put together by the same local community group that held a fundraiser for the new Charlotte mayor.

Not as dramatic as when the wax figure of Lakers Lin was put up by that museum in San Francisco last year, or the giant wooden sculpture in that park in Taiwan, or the art expo they held a couple years back with all those paintings and sculptures of him. But it's something the Charlotte Museum of History is interested in, I guess. I guess the local Charlotte political activists and special interest groups like him. Good for business, I suppose.

[spaceballer]

Another tweet from Coach Nick.
[tweet]https://twitter.com/bballbreakdown/status/690330901939490820[/tweet]
https://twitter.com/bballbreakdown/status/690330901939490820

Coach Nick has tracked down Lin's shooting coaches in the past to do videos with them about shooting mechanics, I believe.

[renmei]

Heads up, on that bballbreakdown vid skip to 1:09 and skip all the ads and promo bs -__-