Right now is the perfect time to trade Fournier

[drsd]

Been saying Harris' best spot on the team is PF for a while now. Hopefully, he opens his eyes.

What do you think of that?

I think that everytime Harris plays PF Orlando loses more games than when he plays SF.

The thing is that if all is without change, we would see Gordon and Harris as hybrid forwards. They can switch on offense and defense and that causes disruptions. Will the fan base ride through this season to wait for that unknown?

..

[The Real Dalic]

The impatient side of me would like to see us trade someone (Fournier, Harris etc.) And bring in an above average scorer, but my calmer slightly more patient side would like to see this team (hopefully with a great or a few pretty good free agents) grow and come back next season. It's a tough choice. Ultimately, I see us making a move this trading deadline and I can see us trading Fournier. If we do, I would like to see more defense brought in to the interior.

[AddiFB]

Orlando Magic outgoing:

Victor Oladipo
Evan Fournier
Nikola Vucevic
Elfrid Payton
Tobias Harris
Aaron Gordon
Andrew Nicholson
Mario Hezonja
Jason Smith

Orlando Magic incoming:

Ish Smith
Glen Davis (Trade with McDonald's)
Willie Green (Trade with Jacque Vaughn's trophy room)
Jameer Nelson
Gustavo Ayon (Found in storage room)
Maurice Harkless
Al Harrington (Trade with undisclosed retirement home)
Solomon Jones (Trade with NBA Live 2012)
Doron Lamb (Trade with Happy Socks)

YOUR POST-DEADLINE ORLANDO MAGIC

PG: Jameer Nelson
SG: Willie Green
SF: Maurice Harkless
PF: Channing Frye
C: Gustavo Ayon

Ish Smith
Solomon Jones
CJ Watson
Devyn Marble
Al Harrington
Doron Lamb
Keith Appling
Shabbazz Napier
Glen Davis

Small-ball here we come! Point guard fest!

I know my way out.

[The Real Dalic]

^Did Dewayne Dedmon fall off the face of the earth?

[OrlChamps2030]

Orlando Magic outgoing:

Victor Oladipo
Evan Fournier
Nikola Vucevic
Elfrid Payton
Tobias Harris
Aaron Gordon
Andrew Nicholson
Mario Hezonja
Jason Smith

Orlando Magic incoming:

Ish Smith
Glen Davis (Trade with McDonald's)
Willie Green (Trade with Jacque Vaughn's trophy room)
Jameer Nelson
Gustavo Ayon (Found in storage room)
Maurice Harkless
Al Harrington (Trade with undisclosed retirement home)
Solomon Jones (Trade with NBA Live 2012)
Doron Lamb (Trade with Happy Socks)

YOUR POST-DEADLINE ORLANDO MAGIC

PG: Jameer Nelson
SG: Willie Green
SF: Maurice Harkless
PF: Channing Frye
C: Gustavo Ayon

Ish Smith
Solomon Jones
CJ Watson
Devyn Marble
Al Harrington
Doron Lamb
Keith Appling
Shabbazz Napier
Glen Davis

Small-ball here we come! Point guard fest!

I know my way out.

No Dequan Jones?

This trade blows!

[Blue_and_Whte]

Orlando Magic outgoing:

Victor Oladipo
Evan Fournier
Nikola Vucevic
Elfrid Payton
Tobias Harris
Aaron Gordon
Andrew Nicholson
Mario Hezonja
Jason Smith

Orlando Magic incoming:

Ish Smith
Glen Davis (Trade with McDonald's)
Willie Green (Trade with Jacque Vaughn's trophy room)
Jameer Nelson
Gustavo Ayon (Found in storage room)
Maurice Harkless
Al Harrington (Trade with undisclosed retirement home)
Solomon Jones (Trade with NBA Live 2012)
Doron Lamb (Trade with Happy Socks)

YOUR POST-DEADLINE ORLANDO MAGIC

PG: Jameer Nelson
SG: Willie Green
SF: Maurice Harkless
PF: Channing Frye
C: Gustavo Ayon

Ish Smith
Solomon Jones
CJ Watson
Devyn Marble
Al Harrington
Doron Lamb
Keith Appling
Shabbazz Napier
Glen Davis

Small-ball here we come! Point guard fest!

I know my way out.

No Dequan Jones?

This trade blows!

I'd be ok with this ONLY if we were getting DeAndre Liggins.

[Skin]

We may be faced with a situation this summer where Brooklyn offers Fournier the max. What would you do?

[ezzzp]

We may be faced with a situation this summer where Brooklyn offers Fournier the max. What would you do?

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1413918#start_here

Fournier's stock has since fallen, but a lot the issues surrounding him are discussed on the above thread link

Despite his drop, I think something similar to what Harris got is what he'll get. With so much money and not enough talent someone will pay him that...Brooklyn will have had to strike out on multiple players to offer him a max deal + billy king got fired so a more rational approach there now

[SaberT]

We may be faced with a situation this summer where Brooklyn offers Fournier the max. What would you do?

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1413918#start_here

Fournier's stock has since fallen, but a lot the issues surrounding him are discussed on the above thread link

Despite his drop, I think something similar to what Harris got is what he'll get. With so much money and not enough talent someone will pay him that...Brooklyn will have had to strike out on multiple players to offer him a max deal + billy king got fired so a more rational approach there now

Tobias is on 4 year 64 million contract (16M per year). Fournier was reported to want "over 10M per year", and allegedly not a lot over 10M and Orlando did not want to do it. I am assuming they will not go and throw 16M per year just one year after refusing to sign him for 11-13M.

I believe Fournier will be traded especially as we can expect Hezonja to grow into his role in the team.

[ezzzp]

Tobias is on 4 year 64 million contract (16M per year). Fournier was reported to want "over 10M per year", and allegedly not a lot over 10M and Orlando did not want to do it. I am assuming they will not go and throw 16M per year just one year after refusing to sign him for 11-13M.

I believe Fournier will be traded especially as we can expect Hezonja to grow into his role in the team.

That's not really what happened. As with Vucevic and Harris, the Magic offered a low extension giving the player an option for immediate long term security in exchange for a more favorable contract.

Vucevic took the security. Harris and Fournier took the risk of injury, performance drop and letting the market set their price. Harris performed well and his value was boosted by the looming salary cap inflation. Fournier's value will be boosted because the cap inflation will be in full effect.

With cap projected to be $95m, nearly all of the NBA will have salary cap space; many far under the required salary floor ($85m). The talent pool is nowhere deep enough to meet the demand. Unlike Harris' scenario, this summer that deficit is large for many teams so they must spend the money or loose it with no return asset.

Look at this list, noting that these amounts are with all active contracts (including the non-guaranteed ones):

Spoiler:

...and in the following summer (2017) the cap and salary floor take yet another huge jump up to at minimum $110m cap and $100m floor. Very average players are going to get paid like all-stars.

[KillMonger]

yep, right now is the perfect time to trade him.....i think hezonja is ready to take his minutes right now

[Andre Roberstan]

Is there any way for the Thunder to get him? What would be fair value for both sides?

McGary, Novak, Waiters, Huestis, Augustin available. Might be able to pry Morrow loose. There's probably no way to make it work, but figured I'd ask.

[ezzzp]

OS: With Evan Fournier, the team faces a similar scenario to what the team faced with Tobias Harris last year. How will the team approach what appears to be restricted free agency on the horizon for Fournier?

Hennigan: We really value Evan. We’ve said that all along, and I’ll say about Evan what we said about Tobias, which is it’s our intention that he’ll be here for many years to come. We really, really like him and think he’s a great piece to continue to grow with our team.

O Sen

[Magic_Johnny12]

Is there any way for the Thunder to get him? What would be fair value for both sides?

McGary, Novak, Waiters, Huestis, Augustin available. Might be able to pry Morrow loose. There's probably no way to make it work, but figured I'd ask.

[Andre Roberstan]

Is there any way for the Thunder to get him? What would be fair value for both sides?

McGary, Novak, Waiters, Huestis, Augustin available. Might be able to pry Morrow loose. There's probably no way to make it work, but figured I'd ask.

Yeah, that's about what I thought. I don't think we have enough pieces that we'd be willing to give up to get him.