Next game Kobe sits, why not try this:

stan francisco · Post #1 » by **stan francisco** » Thu Jan 21, 2016 7:06 am

I would like to see this starting line-up in the next game that Kobe sits out:

PG-Russell
SG-Clarkson
SF-Randle (post up SF, fast break train)
PF-Bass (half stretch PF)
C-Black (it should hurt in the paint)

Why? They're our toughest and most resilient minded players. I see chemistry possibilities and cohesion with these players. They're all very physical and aggressor-minded. Plus, they'd be a handful to guard down low and in general.

Bass can step out and drain them from just inside the three with consistency, but also has a decent post game. Very physical. He can roam on offense and stretch or clog per needs. I'd prefer him taking more jumpers, because
Randle in the half court set, {{{"radical" idea warning}}}, should in my opinion be utilized in a strict offensive role as a deep-down-low post-up SF. Yes SF, nothing else. A PF body with quick enough feet. That's what I think he should be from now on. Good luck to them tweeners guarding him. Most PFs can't even handle his physicality down low let alone someone like Redick. Defense: rebounding and running the break like a bull! Go to town, beast!
Black Make the paint a physical and fiercely defended area where it hurts a bit. Set the tone for the team with tough defense. Offensively, set rock solid screens and hold them for about one more second.
The young bucks can go to town with this and they get to attack. There will be great off the ball movement around the perimeter with Bass and Clarkson, and with Russell. It'll be fun for them. That movement could open up clear paths for easy dimes to Black down low, and Randle, who'd be backing down opponent SFs (and getting them in foul trouble), like K Leonard, K Thompson, LBJ, etc. Is DeRozan or Barnes gonna stop him? He's a beast for anyone to deal with down low. Let him be it. Utilize his strengths, provide him with a scenario within which he can thrive. Playing him as an SF but at PF court positioning forces the opponent's hand, makes us the agressor in that their swing men now really have to become solid post defenders against Randle, without drawing fouls. Defensively, he's quick enough for SFs and therefore has an unusual size and strength advantage without the typical cost of quickness. Nothing lost, physical beast mis-match gained. Tell me why not to try this against every team. It makes us the aggressor as a team. Actual tactics. It gives us an identity. Something to believe in. That's what this team lacks to attract a Durant mega star. Plus, it would complement Durant next to SF Randle at PF positioning as Durant is PF size with SF quickness against same size PF. It's a nightmare combo to guard, even on switches.

Hibz off bench makes him perhaps a bit more competitive. He's more or less spent anyway and Lou can drop 40 off the bench on any given night so that's not a setback either. He'll get his minutes.

Russell has shown us that he can have 30 pt games this year. So has JC. And so has Randle. Let the next generation start to shine so we actually can attract players Durant.

And then let Luke or Brooks or Ollie take over but that's a different story...

Thoughts on this as our starting line up when Kobe sits next?

Thoughts on Randle at the three from now on for a while?

Sofa King · Post #2 » by **Sofa King** » Thu Jan 21, 2016 8:04 am

Next game, Bass, Hibbert, and Nick Young need to be showcased so the Lakers can trade their asses.

stan francisco · Post #3 » by **stan francisco** » Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:18 am

Not a Bass fan, Sofa King?

Sofa King · Post #4 » by **Sofa King** » Thu Jan 21, 2016 10:32 am

I like Bass. We just don't need him with where the Lakers are currently at. He would be good bench guy for the Cavs or someone bound for the playoffs.

Post #5 » by **Kilroy** » Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:15 pm

Was hoping for "pull out his chair."
I'm disappoint...

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Post #6 » by **Slava** » Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:37 pm

I wouldn't be surprised if that is our line up past the all star break. Even last season they played the veterans heavily until Feb to showcase value and then reverted to using Clarkson and Black till the end.

TylersLakers · Post #7 » by **TylersLakers** » Thu Jan 21, 2016 4:11 pm

Yeah, all of March and April I could see lineups like this. Really hope we bring some D-League players on as well and get rid of Sacre, Huertas, etc.

Levity · Post #8 » by **Levity** » Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:09 pm

the complete lack of spacing would be painful to watch at times, but honestly, why the hell not.

though, im more interested in seeing nance with that line up at 4. maybe bass at 5 (depending on the match up) with black splitting the mins 50/50. but with that line up, you still face the same spacing issues.

Levity · Post #9 » by **Levity** » Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:12 pm

anyone know whats going on with upshaw in the dleague ? (is he even there?) if hes showing any sort of promise, id try to give hibbert away for a tpe, maybe snag a late 20s pick and let upshaw get burn in his first nba game. becaue again, why the hell not

gts1 · Post #10 » by **gts1** » Thu Jan 21, 2016 11:37 pm

Levity wrote:anyone know whats going on with upshaw in the dleague ? (is he even there?)

last I heard he was injured, or had some personal issues to deal with? I forget something had him away from the team for a bit and hadn't really checked up on him since he came back... i did see he posted a double double a couple weeks ago which was his first

stan francisco · Post #11 » by **stan francisco** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 2:22 am

Levity wrote:the complete lack of spacing would be painful to watch at times, but honestly, why the hell not.

though, im more interested in seeing nance with that line up at 4. maybe bass at 5 (depending on the match up) with black splitting the mins 50/50. but with that line up, you still face the same spacing issues.

Can't be much worse than it is. :-)

Bass has longer range than we've seen this season. Randle can pass, young-bucks don't mind taking open threes. I'm saying, in the half court set, let Randle post up his SF defender down low.

Not even a reaction to moving Julius to the three fwd position.

stan francisco · Post #12 » by **stan francisco** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 2:23 am

Levity wrote:the complete lack of spacing would be painful to watch at times, but honestly, why the hell not.

though, im more interested in seeing nance with that line up at 4. maybe bass at 5 (depending on the match up) with black splitting the mins 50/50. but with that line up, you still face the same spacing issues.

Can't be much worse than it is. :-)

Bass has longer range than we've seen this season. Randle can pass, young-bucks don't mind taking open threes. I'm saying, in the half court set, let Randle post up his SF defender down low.

Not a single reaction to moving Julius to the three fwd position?

Sofa King · Post #13 » by **Sofa King** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 2:27 am

King Latifah wrote:Not a single reaction to moving Julius to the three fwd position?

TheHartBreakKid · Post #14 » by **TheHartBreakKid** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:01 am

King Latifah wrote:
Levity wrote:the complete lack of spacing would be painful to watch at times, but honestly, why the hell not.

though, im more interested in seeing nance with that line up at 4. maybe bass at 5 (depending on the match up) with black splitting the mins 50/50. but with that line up, you still face the same spacing issues.

Can't be much worse than it is. Bass has longer range than we've seen this season. Randle can pass, young-bucks don't mind taking open threes. I'm saying, in the half court set, let Randle post up his SF defender down low.

Not a single reaction to moving Julius to the three fwd position?

The key should be maximizing the minutes of the young guys, especially when Kobe sits. Randle at the three is not ideal, and it'll never work just like how Lamar at the 3 didn't work (who was probably way more suited for the 3 than Randle), but I don't mind this idea simply because it gives Randle more minutes. That being said, if we are throwing away fit and ideal roles for players, there is no reason why Nance shouldn't be at the 4 instead of Bass. Honestly, I would love it if our late season tank/garbage time/ etc lineup is Russell/Clarkson/Brown/JR/Nance. I think that team could play better D and have better spacing than OP's team. (though Black instead of Nance or Black instead of JR would be a better lineup).

TheHartBreakKid · Post #15 » by **TheHartBreakKid** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:12 am

TylersLakers wrote:Yeah, all of March and April I could see lineups like this. Really hope we bring some D-League players on as well and get rid of Sacre, Huertas, etc.

But Sacre/Huertas etc won't be getting too much minutes anyways. I think Lou/Bass (both of who have impressed me) and obviously Kobe, are more in the way. I'm all for dumping Hibbert even if we get nothing in return. I like Bass and Lou, and see a future with them on the team, but Byron really needs to decrease their roles/minutes as we enter the later stages of the season. I do agree that Sacre getting a single minute over Black is ridiculous, and same with Kelly. Huertas is the perfect amount of player for these experimental lineups though as a backup...just someone who'll get spot minutes, and sucks enough to not get in the way by being a high usage player.

Levity · Post #16 » by **Levity** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 7:09 pm

King Latifah wrote:Not a single reaction to moving Julius to the three fwd position?

its obviously not ideal. but im interested in seeing how it would play out. would his brute strength give him advantage in certain situations? if 3s are stuck guarding him in return, he can overpower half of them in the league. again, i cant see it long term because of the defensive deficiencies it would bring (though, the whole team is full of those this season), but in a season where every loss favors our future, why the hell not try it.

TKainZero · Post #17 » by **TKainZero** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 11:26 pm

Levity wrote:
King Latifah wrote:Not a single reaction to moving Julius to the three fwd position?

its obviously not ideal. but im interested in seeing how it would play out. would his brute strength give him advantage in certain situations? if 3s are stuck guarding him in return, he can overpower half of them in the league. again, i cant see it long term because of the defensive deficiencies it would bring (though, the whole team is full of those this season), but in a season where every loss favors our future, why the hell not try it.

Yea...
I HATE IT, randle is already quick enough to beat PFs off the dribble.

Nance and randle at the 3/4 could be interesting thou, they could switch.

Ranlde needs to develop a jump shot

Randle is the 4th (tied for 3rd) leading rebounding PF in the NBA... and he can really only get better.

I repeat.
Only Kevin Love, Anthony Davis, and Draymond Green (tied) average more rebounds per game from the PF spot than Randle who comes off the bench.

Its completely reasonable to think that Randle will be the best rebounding PF in the NBA in a couple years.

MC23 · Post #18 » by **MC23** » Sat Jan 23, 2016 12:24 am

The Russell/Clarkson/Randle combo struggles together IMO because they all want to handle the ball and none of them are great off it yet. Best to split their PT up if possible.

RicotheBrain24 · Post #19 » by **RicotheBrain24** » Sat Jan 23, 2016 6:22 am

Levity wrote:anyone know whats going on with upshaw in the dleague ? (is he even there?) if hes showing any sort of promise, id try to give hibbert away for a tpe, maybe snag a late 20s pick and let upshaw get burn in his first nba game. becaue again, why the hell not

Makes bad mistakes on D. Liability on defense, but he still needs more game time. He's fine where he's at until he gets used to the tempo.

stan francisco · Post #20 » by **stan francisco** » Sat Jan 23, 2016 11:37 am

And yes when Nance comes back, he's at the four, Bass off the bench.