Trade Deadline Countdown....What will we do? What should we do?

[RunDogGun]

I think McDoNothing will live up to this name. Perhaps we move Tucker or Tele to a contending team, but the rest of our pieces just don't have the attraction or don't yield the value. They have weathered the MoBro PR storm and I would not be surprised if the FO just holds onto what we have till the Lotto/draft shakes out.... then swing for the fences. Frankly, MoBro with a clean legal slate and a year separation from his severed siamese twin should be much more marketable.

Of course, the standard spin-spew will be issued....how hard they tried to make a deal, but nothing seemed to really improve the team. Which in this case is likely true. At this point, the plus by minus theory should be ignored as it looks like we are headed for a top 5 pick.

Didn't he trade one third of the team last year at the trade deadline? That seems like the antithesis of doing nothing. You may not like the moves, but you can't say that he consistently does nothing.

Yes, "McDoNothing" might be your worst "McD-ism" yet. Why force the issue now? Nothing short of trading our entire roster for the Warriors' roster is going to change the outlook of this team.

But yes, we are in fact, headed for a top 5 pick, likely. At worst, top 8, I would assume. By winning 20 more games, we likely drop 4-5 picks and still miss the playoffs. What would be the point in that?

It's one thing to try to get there when hovering around .500 or better, like the past two seasons, but this season? No point in trying to get better before the trade deadline; that would be counterintuitive. The longer we wait, the better off our chances of getting value, because some other close-to-8th-seed team will pay a premium for helping get them over the hump and in the Playoffs. Now? Too soon to tell, well, unless your the Suns and are getting blown out by the Wolves by 30 points...

Feb 18th is 26 days, or about 14 games away...a lot can happen to a team's fortune in 14 games...unless, again, you are the Suns...

To be fair, the Wolves play so many lotto picks, and two number one picks, they are bound to all click at the same time every once in a while. And with a team down on their luck, like we are, those odds increase dramatically.

[JMac1]

Watching Duke right now, that Ingram kid is long and skinny, but very skilled. 1-2 picks are crucial this year. We ill be 3-5 before lottery, but if LAL wins a few more, we can make it into the top 2 pre-lottery.

[Frank Lee]

Dont misunderstand my nostradamic viewpoint.... I really do not endorse any move at the moment... at least have not seen any that are realistic and beneficial. I will amend the most recent McD? to McDoNothingRightNowandFrankUnderstands....

Sorry JC.... but the carpenter doesn't get all the blame for this home. The architect has been violating the building codes with this 2 and 3 pg concept. Hopefully, with the emergence of theBOOKER, they both will be forced to follow a more conventional path.

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

Watching Duke right now, that Ingram kid is long and skinny, but very skilled. 1-2 picks are crucial this year. We ill be 3-5 before lottery, but if LAL wins a few more, we can make it into the top 2 pre-lottery.

Honestly, I'm just as intrigued by Bender at this point. Ceiling - a 7'0" Shawn Marion / Andrei Kirilenko type. Sign me up!

[bhawk]

Consider that the longer Markieff and Hornacek are on this team, the more losses and better draft pick we will get. I was all for change and trades, but now believe that we shouldn't do anything but let this team lose and get the young guys some playing time. All aboard the tank-train! Woot woot!

Another thought... Keeping Markieff and Horny around may be exactly what they don't want and exactly what they DESERVE.

[saintEscaton]

Watching Duke right now, that Ingram kid is long and skinny, but very skilled. 1-2 picks are crucial this year. We ill be 3-5 before lottery, but if LAL wins a few more, we can make it into the top 2 pre-lottery.

Honestly, I'm just as intrigued by Bender at this point. Ceiling - a 7'0" Shawn Marion / Andrei Kirilenko type. Sign me up!

He honestly reminds me more of Jan Vesley

[BobbieL]

Every morning I wake up hoping to see Kieff traded ... disappointed yet again.

I feel you. I have been waiting and waiting. First it was 12/15 and talk of Ryan Anderson. Than 1/15 for Brewer

My guess is SArver is not letting Ryan McD trade him for crappy value. But now that there is talk Cleveland may want him - what about this trade. Its been posted before but this might give Cleveland a better chance at the title than current roster. And they are so far in cap hell - why not.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine

Suns have to do something

No, they don't. Cleveland has to do something. They are in win-now mode and the window with LeBron will close fairly soon. The Suns are in rebuilding mode. Losses are an advantage. They do not NEED to make deals. They need to make GOOD deals. Better no deal than a bad one.

I think Kevin Love and an expiring Mozgov for Knight and Chandler is a good deal

I don't count Kieff an anything as how can you count him as an asset right now. For the Suns, he is a liability so whatever you get for him is a bonus

[Saberestar]

Watching Duke right now, that Ingram kid is long and skinny, but very skilled. 1-2 picks are crucial this year. We ill be 3-5 before lottery, but if LAL wins a few more, we can make it into the top 2 pre-lottery.

Honestly, I'm just as intrigued by Bender at this point. Ceiling - a 7'0" Shawn Marion / Andrei Kirilenko type. Sign me up!

I have only seen highlights and the scouting report, but I don't think he is that type of player.

He seems to me a shooter, and he can be like Mirotic or Porzingis. Not an strong defender (like Marion or Kirilenko) and his size can be a problem more than a benefit in the current NBA.
An stretch PF/C without post game, raw and thin....I just see that.

[Phase 3]

Warriors fan here. What's the 411 on Markieff Morris? Is he totally beyond repair? One of our beat writers mentioned Morris as a potential trade target, so that's why I'm asking. The Warriors don't usually take on players with character issues which is why I was surprised to hear this rumor. Thanks for any feedback.

[RunDogGun]

Warriors fan here. What's the 411 on Markieff Morris? Is he totally beyond repair? One of our beat writers mentioned Morris as a potential trade target, so that's why I'm asking. The Warriors don't usually take on players with character issues which is why I was surprised to hear this rumor. Thanks for any feedback.

He just simply doesn't want to be here. I think he will put forth the effort his brother currently is in Detroit once he is traded to a different team.

What were you thinking for a trade?

What's the story on Looney? How is his recovery going? I wouldn't mind him and Livingston, if the numbers work. It works in the trade machine.

[Phase 3]

Warriors fan here. What's the 411 on Markieff Morris? Is he totally beyond repair? One of our beat writers mentioned Morris as a potential trade target, so that's why I'm asking. The Warriors don't usually take on players with character issues which is why I was surprised to hear this rumor. Thanks for any feedback.

He just simply doesn't want to be here. I think he will put forth the effort his brother currently is in Detroit once he is traded to a different team.

What were you thinking for a trade?

Thanks for the response. I haven't put much thought into a trade for Morris as I've just recently heard this rumor. Our beat writer said that a lot of teams are asking for an asset to take on Morris and his contract and that the Warriors advantage may be that they are not asking for an asset from the Suns to take him. He made it sound like the Warriors would basically be offering a salary dump with maybe a younger player the Suns like. I'm not sure how legit his info is but he's got pretty decent connections with the Warriors and is not the type to just throw out crap against the wall lol.

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

Warriors fan here. What's the 411 on Markieff Morris? Is he totally beyond repair? One of our beat writers mentioned Morris as a potential trade target, so that's why I'm asking. The Warriors don't usually take on players with character issues which is why I was surprised to hear this rumor. Thanks for any feedback.

He just simply doesn't want to be here. I think he will put forth the effort his brother currently is in Detroit once he is traded to a different team.

What were you thinking for a trade?

What's the story on Looney? How is his recovery going? I wouldn't mind him and Livingston, if the numbers work.

How about this: http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=z3mo8uc + two second rounders or a highly protected first GSW-->PHX?

[saintEscaton]

Watching Duke right now, that Ingram kid is long and skinny, but very skilled. 1-2 picks are crucial this year. We ill be 3-5 before lottery, but if LAL wins a few more, we can make it into the top 2 pre-lottery.

Honestly, I'm just as intrigued by Bender at this point. Ceiling - a 7'0" Shawn Marion / Andrei Kirilenko type. Sign me up!

I have only seen highlights and the scouting report, but I don't think he is that type of player.

He seems to me a shooter, and he can be like Mirotic or Porzingis. Not an strong defender (like Marion or Kirilenko) and his size can be a problem more than a benefit in the current NBA.
An stretch PF/C without post game, raw and thin....I just see that.

Those aren't good comparison either IMO. Maybe Toni Kukoč. Bender can patrol the perimeter, switch on to guards and has the ability to make up ground and closeout in a hurry so he's not as much of liability on the other end as Mirotic.He lacks the physicality to be an enforcer inside due to his frail build but also has the mobility to get past screens. He is not close to the shooter or instinctive scorer that Porzingod currently is but he is also playing against tougher competition in the Israeli/Euroleague at the younger age of 18. He's 3 inches taller than AK47 in shoes but has a shorter wingspan and is not as athletic or particularly skilled. Hopefully he's goign throw the growing pains and the game will come easier to him soon. But you're right he plays like a lanky SF and doesn't look like a big and his passing is good but not enough to be a point forward

[RunDogGun]

Warriors fan here. What's the 411 on Markieff Morris? Is he totally beyond repair? One of our beat writers mentioned Morris as a potential trade target, so that's why I'm asking. The Warriors don't usually take on players with character issues which is why I was surprised to hear this rumor. Thanks for any feedback.

He just simply doesn't want to be here. I think he will put forth the effort his brother currently is in Detroit once he is traded to a different team.

What were you thinking for a trade?

Thanks for the response. I haven't put much thought into a trade for Morris as I've just recently heard this rumor. Our beat writer said that a lot of teams are asking for an asset to take on Morris and his contract and that the Warriors advantage may be that they are not asking for an asset from the Suns to take him. He made it sound like the Warriors would basically be offering a salary dump with maybe a younger player the Suns like. I'm not sure how legit his info is but he's got pretty decent connections with the Warriors and is not the type to just throw out crap against the wall lol.

Sorry, I added the trade after your response. I was thinking Looney and Livingston, and we'd add a second rounder for your trouble.

[RunDogGun]

Warriors fan here. What's the 411 on Markieff Morris? Is he totally beyond repair? One of our beat writers mentioned Morris as a potential trade target, so that's why I'm asking. The Warriors don't usually take on players with character issues which is why I was surprised to hear this rumor. Thanks for any feedback.

He just simply doesn't want to be here. I think he will put forth the effort his brother currently is in Detroit once he is traded to a different team.

What were you thinking for a trade?

What's the story on Looney? How is his recovery going? I wouldn't mind him and Livingston, if the numbers work.

How about this: http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=z3mo8uc + two second rounders or a highly protected first GSW-->PHX?

We need a floor leader, which is why I wanted Livingston. I think we could get more for Tele by himself.

[NaturalBuns]

I feel you. I have been waiting and waiting. First it was 12/15 and talk of Ryan Anderson. Than 1/15 for Brewer

My guess is SArver is not letting Ryan McD trade him for crappy value. But now that there is talk Cleveland may want him - what about this trade. Its been posted before but this might give Cleveland a better chance at the title than current roster. And they are so far in cap hell - why not.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine

Suns have to do something

No, they don't. Cleveland has to do something. They are in win-now mode and the window with LeBron will close fairly soon. The Suns are in rebuilding mode. Losses are an advantage. They do not NEED to make deals. They need to make GOOD deals. Better no deal than a bad one.

I think Kevin Love and an expiring Mozgov for Knight and Chandler is a good deal

I don't count Kieff an anything as how can you count him as an asset right now. For the Suns, he is a liability so whatever you get for him is a bonus

With the firing of the coach they definitely not trading love at this season. That's a low ball offer from Suns too

[Phase 3]

He just simply doesn't want to be here. I think he will put forth the effort his brother currently is in Detroit once he is traded to a different team.

What were you thinking for a trade?

Thanks for the response. I haven't put much thought into a trade for Morris as I've just recently heard this rumor. Our beat writer said that a lot of teams are asking for an asset to take on Morris and his contract and that the Warriors advantage may be that they are not asking for an asset from the Suns to take him. He made it sound like the Warriors would basically be offering a salary dump with maybe a younger player the Suns like. I'm not sure how legit his info is but he's got pretty decent connections with the Warriors and is not the type to just throw out crap against the wall lol.

Sorry, I added the trade after your response. I was thinking Looney and Livingston, and we'd add a second rounder for your trouble.

I don't see the Warriors trading Livingston. Our beat writer made it sound like the Warriors might be the fallback plan for the Suns if they are not getting what they want in the trade market with other teams. The trade machine proposal with you put out there is probably not too far from what the Warriors have offered. The Warriors just don't have much to offer other than cap relief going forward.

[Phase 3]

Oh yeah...and you asked about Looney. He is definitely a project. He's got a lot of skill but his body is probably a couple years away from being NBA ready. He needs to improve his conditioning big time. But I think the Warriors front office definitely likes the potential there.

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

He just simply doesn't want to be here. I think he will put forth the effort his brother currently is in Detroit once he is traded to a different team.

What were you thinking for a trade?

What's the story on Looney? How is his recovery going? I wouldn't mind him and Livingston, if the numbers work.

How about this: http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=z3mo8uc + two second rounders or a highly protected first GSW-->PHX?

We need a floor leader, which is why I wanted Livingston. I think we could get more for Tele by himself.

I just don't think there's any way a team that has lost only 4 games halfway through the season trades a rotation player. They just wouldn't. Livingston's worth more to the Warriors than to us - you leave him there.

[Phase 3]

How about this: http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=z3mo8uc + two second rounders or a highly protected first GSW-->PHX?

We need a floor leader, which is why I wanted Livingston. I think we could get more for Tele by himself.

I just don't think there's any way a team that has lost only 4 games halfway through the season trades a rotation player. They just wouldn't. Livingston's worth more to the Warriors than to us - you leave him there.

Yep. I'm not trying to come over here with lowball trade proposals either lol. I know how annoying that can be...I'm just passing along some info and trying to find out more about Morris. Thanks for the responses Suns fans