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Post#1881 » by Agnostifarian » Sat Jan 23, 2016 8:59 pm

Unbreakable99 wrote:With the emergence of Myles Turner how soon can we say Hinkie blew it by also passing on him for Okafor?


Dude, you forgot the green font! :wink:
“This may be one of the best jobs in basketball right now,” Colangelo said at a press conference introducing him as the new GM of the 76ers after Sam Hinkie resigned.
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Post#1882 » by Unbreakable99 » Sat Jan 23, 2016 9:21 pm

Agnostifarian wrote:
Unbreakable99 wrote:With the emergence of Myles Turner how soon can we say Hinkie blew it by also passing on him for Okafor?


Dude, you forgot the green font! :wink:


Lol. I do like his skillset. He looks like he can be a two way player unlike Okafor.
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Post#1883 » by ET Da Gawd » Sun Jan 24, 2016 12:53 am

Myles is nowhere near jahlils level of offensive skill though. Cool he drop 30sm on a small ball team...wanna see him do that consistently.
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Post#1884 » by ET Da Gawd » Sun Jan 24, 2016 12:55 am

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:If Brown, D'Antoni, etc decide to be a small ball transition team, the building process has started rather late. Nerlens Noel is the starting point with Hollis, Cov, and Grant as other potential building pieces.

Also, I don't get the infatuation with the three point shooting centers. Are you telling me Meyers Leonard is better than Jahlil Okafor?
Since when is Myles Turner a center? He looks like a power forward all day to me.

I really don't think the idea is to play small ball in Philadelphia. I think the idea is to be versatile while keeping the most talented players on the floor. I just can't see in any possible circumstance where Meyers Leonard is a better option than Jahlil Okafor. If that becomes the case I will probably quit watching the sport.

Bro I feel like we're the only ones who see the light. Everyone else is blinded by the fads. Like we havent been getting killed by KGs, Rasheeds, & Boshs for years. We finally have bigs to compete and now people wanna go small. Redic
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Post#1885 » by Unbreakable99 » Sun Jan 24, 2016 3:01 am

ET Da Gawd wrote:
ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:If Brown, D'Antoni, etc decide to be a small ball transition team, the building process has started rather late. Nerlens Noel is the starting point with Hollis, Cov, and Grant as other potential building pieces.

Also, I don't get the infatuation with the three point shooting centers. Are you telling me Meyers Leonard is better than Jahlil Okafor?
Since when is Myles Turner a center? He looks like a power forward all day to me.

I really don't think the idea is to play small ball in Philadelphia. I think the idea is to be versatile while keeping the most talented players on the floor. I just can't see in any possible circumstance where Meyers Leonard is a better option than Jahlil Okafor. If that becomes the case I will probably quit watching the sport.

Bro I feel like we're the only ones who see the light. Everyone else is blinded by the fads. Like we havent been getting killed by KGs, Rasheeds, & Boshs for years. We finally have bigs to compete and now people wanna go small. Redic


The mid 2000 Sixers were ahead of the times when they had nothing but players from 6'3 to 6'7. Lol. Great small ball team. No big men and got killed on the boards. Kenny Thomas was the future of the NBA lol.
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Post#1886 » by 76thBearCub » Sun Jan 24, 2016 3:16 am

ET Da Gawd wrote:
ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:If Brown, D'Antoni, etc decide to be a small ball transition team, the building process has started rather late. Nerlens Noel is the starting point with Hollis, Cov, and Grant as other potential building pieces.

Also, I don't get the infatuation with the three point shooting centers. Are you telling me Meyers Leonard is better than Jahlil Okafor?
Since when is Myles Turner a center? He looks like a power forward all day to me.

I really don't think the idea is to play small ball in Philadelphia. I think the idea is to be versatile while keeping the most talented players on the floor. I just can't see in any possible circumstance where Meyers Leonard is a better option than Jahlil Okafor. If that becomes the case I will probably quit watching the sport.

Bro I feel like we're the only ones who see the light. Everyone else is blinded by the fads. Like we havent been getting killed by KGs, Rasheeds, & Boshs for years. We finally have bigs to compete and now people wanna go small. Redic


I kind of doubt you are the only one who sees what GS is doing and thinks that it might not be easily duplicated.
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Post#1887 » by phifans » Sun Jan 24, 2016 3:47 am

Unbreakable99 wrote:
Agnostifarian wrote:
Unbreakable99 wrote:With the emergence of Myles Turner how soon can we say Hinkie blew it by also passing on him for Okafor?


Dude, you forgot the green font! :wink:


Lol. I do like his skillset. He looks like he can be a two way player unlike Okafor.


Unlike Okafor and Noel yeah .... Then you should bash Hinkie cos we don't even have to tank that hard to get a "two way player" like Turner , Butler , Green and Leonard
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Post#1888 » by phifans » Sun Jan 24, 2016 3:51 am

Last time I checked our rotation there is not a player called Stephen Curry in it. Does that change now cos Many people here think we can win games once we start play small ball.
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Post#1889 » by 76ciology » Sun Jan 24, 2016 8:18 am

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ICU74MYDtQ[/youtube]
Wish list for Jah. Both guys same weight,length and skillset. But big difference in motor. What makes DMC great is he leads team in on court pace and on court ORTG. He's not a shotblocker but he's mobile enough to provide good defensive rotations rim protection and rebounding.

Cousins is another matter, a larger concern, a conundrum of epic proportions. The league is trending faster, and he is reluctant to run. Opposing coaches urge their players to bust downcourt because the Kings’ sixth-year veteran strolls from offense to defense. He has the freedom to pull up and shoot three-pointers in rhythm but is expected to do so selectively; instead, he frequently launches deep jumpers out of fatigue and too seldom attacks the basket on quick hits and screen-rolls.

The underlying issue to this Cousins-George Karl tango – the issue that must be resolved for the Kings to earn a mention in any playoff chase – is the center’s poor physical conditioning.

“His biggest problem is that he is out of shape,” Charles Barkley said during his recent visit. When it was noted that the Round Man was never an Adonis, the Hall of Fame forward and TNT analyst laughed but added: “I learned during my career. Moses Malone told me to lose weight in 10-pound (increments). I started at 292, then got down to 282. Then down to 272. Then to 262. When I got below 250, we realized that was too light. So I was always best around 252. DeMarcus needs to figure out where he needs to be, and then get there. Otherwise, he’s never going to be healthy.”

The Kings closely guard the 6-foot-11 center’s weight and body fat percentage. Clearly, he’s not the player who labored during the Las Vegas Summer League before his rookie season. But his condition fluctuates wildly, and for large chunks of the past two seasons, he has been ill, slowed by nagging injuries and perhaps most noticeably gimpy and unable to gain any lift in the low post.

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Post#1890 » by Negrodamus » Sun Jan 24, 2016 1:50 pm

I think if you boil DeMarcus down to his offensive essence then you get something that resembles Okafor. They both have a face up game with very solid handles and will the ball into the basket. What Cousins also has is 74% FT shooting on 10 attempts per game. He also has range extending to three point land (much to Kings fans angst at times). The two other aspects that Okafor trails is his ability to pass and his rebounding, the latter being much more substantial.

For all the stink that has been made about Cousins's personality, he absolutely hates losing. Not saying Okafor is some laissez-faire basketball player that is here to get his numbers and move on, but there is a mental aspect that should be noted.

I do think Okafor could easily end up being a 26+ ppg scorer in this league. It all depends on how much you're willing to sacrifice elsewhere on the court.
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Post#1891 » by phillynative » Sun Jan 24, 2016 2:24 pm

Cousins is a better defender,athlete. I don't see a comparison for Jah at this point
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Post#1892 » by phifans » Sun Jan 24, 2016 2:58 pm

phillynative wrote:Cousins is a better defender,athlete. I don't see a comparison for Jah at this point


He was not a better defender as a rookie.
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Post#1893 » by Sixerscan » Sun Jan 24, 2016 3:29 pm

He's definitely better now than when Boogie was a rookie/20. Just a question of how much he works to improve himself in the coming years.
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Post#1894 » by SparksFly87 » Sun Jan 24, 2016 3:38 pm

I disagree that Boogie is more athletic. I think he's just in better conditioning and game shape. I project Jah as almost a mirror image of current Cousins in year two or 3. Jah is going to be scary good offensive weapon and a better shotblocker and comparable rebounder to current Cousins.
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Post#1895 » by Negrodamus » Sun Jan 24, 2016 4:01 pm

SparksFly87 wrote:I disagree that Boogie is more athletic. I think he's just in better conditioning and game shape. I project Jah as almost a mirror image of current Cousins in year two or 3. Jah is going to be scary good offensive weapon and a better shotblocker and comparable rebounder to current Cousins.


I don't think he'll ever be the rebounder Cousins is. He could be the scorer though.
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Post#1896 » by Ericb5 » Sun Jan 24, 2016 4:30 pm

Negrodamus wrote:
SparksFly87 wrote:I disagree that Boogie is more athletic. I think he's just in better conditioning and game shape. I project Jah as almost a mirror image of current Cousins in year two or 3. Jah is going to be scary good offensive weapon and a better shotblocker and comparable rebounder to current Cousins.


I don't think he'll ever be the rebounder Cousins is. He could be the scorer though.


I think that rebounding is the one area that Okafor will probably never be as good as Cousins is. Conditioning wise and defense wise I think that he could get there in time.

For all his knuckleheadedness Cousins has a high level motor, and Okafor has been inconsistent in that deparetment.

I think that Okafor should look at Cousins as his motivation though. He is about 5 years younger than him, and he should aspire to catch Cousins someday. Maybe he never gets there, but that is a good goal for him. He's probably the best player in the league for Okafor to model himself after.
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Post#1897 » by Unbreakable99 » Sun Jan 24, 2016 8:07 pm

I am critical of Okafor but I have to give it to him the last few games. I really like how he has played offensively. He hasn't stopped the ball. He faces up. He has been hitting a jumper with consistency. If Okafor can play like this most of the time I think he can be very valuable. The main thing Okafor Ned's to get better at offensively is drawing fouls. For as big as Okafor is and as much as he likes to bully people he has a somewhat finesse game. He doesn't go up into his man enough to draw fouls. He avoids contact. The leading scorers get to the line more than most. There is no reason whynokafor can't get to the line at least 4 times per game. That's about 8 foul shots. If Okafor can do that and get better at rebounding he could be a keeper. Someone in the organization like Brown needs to shame him about his rebounding. When they look at film Brown must be getting on him and say how he isn't hustling to get the rebound and being physical enough. Reporters need to ask Okafor after games why he didn't rebound enough.
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Post#1898 » by phillynative » Sun Jan 24, 2016 8:55 pm

:nod:
Unbreakable99 wrote:I am critical of Okafor but I have to give it to him the last few games. I really like how he has played offensively. He hasn't stopped the ball. He faces up. He has been hitting a jumper with consistency. If Okafor can play like this most of the time I think he can be very valuable. The main thing Okafor Ned's to get better at offensively is drawing fouls. For as big as Okafor is and as much as he likes to bully people he has a somewhat finesse game. He doesn't go up into his man enough to draw fouls. He avoids contact. The leading scorers get to the line more than most. There is no reason whynokafor can't get to the line at least 4 times per game. That's about 8 foul shots. If Okafor can do that and get better at rebounding he could be a keeper. Someone in the organization like Brown needs to shame him about his rebounding. When they look at film Brown must be getting on him and say how he isn't hustling to get the rebound and being physical enough. Reporters need to ask Okafor after games why he didn't rebound enough.


It was reported earlier in the season that Jah went to coach brown and told him he wanted to be a better rebounder and he wanted to improve. His overall defensive awareness has to improve but at least he knows and want to work at it.
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Post#1899 » by Unbreakable99 » Sun Jan 24, 2016 9:13 pm

phillynative wrote::nod:
Unbreakable99 wrote:I am critical of Okafor but I have to give it to him the last few games. I really like how he has played offensively. He hasn't stopped the ball. He faces up. He has been hitting a jumper with consistency. If Okafor can play like this most of the time I think he can be very valuable. The main thing Okafor Ned's to get better at offensively is drawing fouls. For as big as Okafor is and as much as he likes to bully people he has a somewhat finesse game. He doesn't go up into his man enough to draw fouls. He avoids contact. The leading scorers get to the line more than most. There is no reason whynokafor can't get to the line at least 4 times per game. That's about 8 foul shots. If Okafor can do that and get better at rebounding he could be a keeper. Someone in the organization like Brown needs to shame him about his rebounding. When they look at film Brown must be getting on him and say how he isn't hustling to get the rebound and being physical enough. Reporters need to ask Okafor after games why he didn't rebound enough.


It was reported earlier in the season that Jah went to coach brown and told him he wanted to be a better rebounder and he wanted to improve. His overall defensive awareness has to improve but at least he knows and want to work at it.


I remember him saying that. He hasn't gotten better. Rebounds are there to be had and he just doesn't give a damn. All rebound in is is getting good position and having a good idea where the ball should bounce and hustling to get the ball and boxing out well. It's not that difficult. Okafor is lazy there and he needs to do better.
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Post#1900 » by Stanford » Sun Jan 24, 2016 9:28 pm

phifans wrote:He was not a better defender as a rookie.


By what measure?

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