2015-16 Fake Trade Thread

[TinmanZBoy]

Are you aware of Chandler's history with CLT?

Do not want and his terrible contract has nothing to do with it.

yes...tbh, I am kinda torn with the idea... he can absolutely help this team this season but you won't know what you will get from him beyond this year...

Based on what we got out of a 28 year old Chandler, I don't think you're going to get a very positive response about trading for a 33 year old Chandler on the hook for big money for 3.5 more seasons. We literally salary dumped the guy on the Mavericks after one season. And the catch is that we actually ended up paying MORE to Mexicat and Hammer- the two guys we got back in the trade. We dumped him and actually spent money over time to do so. I love this franchise.

i know, but Chandler absolutely revived his career after Charlotte... be it in Dallas or NYK, he was money for the Mav. championship team, won a DOY award in NYK, a good locker room guy...

[Elden Payton]

Tyson Chandler just got two 20+ rebounds game in a roll... I was thinking how nice if the hornets can trade for Tyson... haha..divid Aldridge just mentioned the same thing on NBATV, he said Suns have some pieces attracting other teams, Tyson is a perfect fit for the Charlotte

Are you aware of Chandler's history with CLT?

Do not want and his terrible contract has nothing to do with it.

yes...tbh, I am kinda torn with the idea... he can absolutely help this team this season but you won't know what you will get from him beyond this year...

Chandler took a huge dump on this franchise and was unprofessional in his time here.

Who cares about this guy and I'd be pissed if we traded for him.

[yosemiteben]

Stats don't show they are great rim protectors. In 54 minutes a game they average a combined 1.7 blocks. That is intimidating nobody.

Blocks are a relatively meaningless stat if you otherwise give up a high FG% at the rim on a large volume of attempts. All that matters is (a) how many shots do teams get at the rim and (b) how often do they convert those shots into points.

While other teams have not shot great inside they are not protecting the rim and at key moments no team is afraid to drive the lane for an easy 2.

Then why do teams shoot fewer shots at the rim against us than almost any other team in the league?

[Elden Payton]

yes...tbh, I am kinda torn with the idea... he can absolutely help this team this season but you won't know what you will get from him beyond this year...

Based on what we got out of a 28 year old Chandler, I don't think you're going to get a very positive response about trading for a 33 year old Chandler on the hook for big money for 3.5 more seasons. We literally salary dumped the guy on the Mavericks after one season. And the catch is that we actually ended up paying MORE to Mexicat and Hammer- the two guys we got back in the trade. We dumped him and actually spent money over time to do so. I love this franchise.

i know, but Chandler absolutely revived his career after Charlotte... be it in Dallas or NYK, he was money for the Mav. championship team, won a DOY award in NYK, a good locker room guy...

He was good in CHI, NO, DAL and NYK.

He deliberately tanked in effort for us so **** him.

[Elden Payton]

Stats don't show they are great rim protectors. In 54 minutes a game they average a combined 1.7 blocks. That is intimidating nobody.

Blocks are a relatively meaningless stat if you otherwise give up a high FG% at the rim on a large volume of attempts. All that matters is (a) how many shots do teams get at the rim and (b) how often do they convert those shots into points.

While other teams have not shot great inside they are not protecting the rim and at key moments no team is afraid to drive the lane for an easy 2.

Then why do teams shoot fewer shots at the rim against us than almost any other team in the league?

People give Cody no credit.

[BeesWax]

Stats don't show they are great rim protectors. In 54 minutes a game they average a combined 1.7 blocks. That is intimidating nobody.

Blocks are a relatively meaningless stat if you otherwise give up a high FG% at the rim on a large volume of attempts. All that matters is (a) how many shots do teams get at the rim and (b) how often do they convert those shots into points.

While other teams have not shot great inside they are not protecting the rim and at key moments no team is afraid to drive the lane for an easy 2.

Then why do teams shoot fewer shots at the rim against us than almost any other team in the league?

Because we crash down and they kick it out for wide open looks. Blocks are not meaningless because they are something guys have in the back of their minds when they go in the lane. If you watch the game you can see when there is a shot blocker in there it influences the way teams attack the lane. We don't have anyone that scares players when they drive. By your stats Spencer Hawes is a rim protecting force. We have to commit so much help from the perimeter we give up open shots out there because we have 0 rim protection and that is backed by the eye test.

While blocks are not the be all end all they are a part of it and one we are missing. We need a true rim protector added to the roster to go along with what we have. Our guys do an ok job of standing there and staying in position and hoping they miss then cleaning th glass but we could use an intimidator for late in games to make teams think twice about attacking the rim. Your argument is that we cause low FG% inside but that is different than rim protection.

[BeesWax]

Stats don't show they are great rim protectors. In 54 minutes a game they average a combined 1.7 blocks. That is intimidating nobody.

Blocks are a relatively meaningless stat if you otherwise give up a high FG% at the rim on a large volume of attempts. All that matters is (a) how many shots do teams get at the rim and (b) how often do they convert those shots into points.

While other teams have not shot great inside they are not protecting the rim and at key moments no team is afraid to drive the lane for an easy 2.

Then why do teams shoot fewer shots at the rim against us than almost any other team in the league?

People give Cody no credit.

I like Cody and think he is finally in the spot he needs to be in. My concern is he is a tweeter right now. Suited for PF on defense and C on offense. If he can bulk up a bit and keep his speed and athletic ability this offseason it will help him a lot. I think trading for some help down low would be good though just to fill a type of player we are missing.

[yosemiteben]

In my mind causing low FG% around the rim is the exact definition of rim protection.

We just disagree, no biggie.

[Elden Payton]

Blocks are a relatively meaningless stat if you otherwise give up a high FG% at the rim on a large volume of attempts. All that matters is (a) how many shots do teams get at the rim and (b) how often do they convert those shots into points.


Then why do teams shoot fewer shots at the rim against us than almost any other team in the league?

People give Cody no credit.

I like Cody and think he is finally in the spot he needs to be in. My concern is he is a tweeter right now. Suited for PF on defense and C on offense. If he can bulk up a bit and keep his speed and athletic ability this offseason it will help him a lot. I think trading for some help down low would be good though just to fill a type of player we are missing.

I like what we have so far this season, I'm not sure we're going to make the playoffs but we have a solid roster and I think internal development can only help from here.

Cody and Frank can play roles going forward this season as they will both be role players in the long run imo.

I think Frank is a PF on offense and a C on defence so they fit together well.

Al can be the presence down low when he comes back.

I hope we trade Al (or let him walk this offseason) and keep Marv around as a vet presence who can start at PF/SF if needed.

Whiteside for 15m per (4/60) would be a great deal for us to offer and we are his 'hometown' team.