2016 NBA Draft/College Basketball Thread

BoomBap · Post #1261 » by **BoomBap** » Sun Jan 24, 2016 9:55 am

i want a player who can shoot ft's.

freshie2 · Post #1262 » by **freshie2** » Sun Jan 24, 2016 1:44 pm

FreesFro wrote:You're not getting my point. I'm trying to compare these guys at the same ages. Not that crazy of a thought for teenagers, no? I'm not talking about 28 year olds here. Both of these kids are still developing their games immensely and they are still growing.

Simmons is pretty much a sophomore age wise and Ingram a freshman. What would Simmons be doing if he was in the NCAA last year? That's where Ingram is now.

I'm not saying Ingram is a better prospect, but I was arguing and still will that the gap between #1 and #2 is nowhere near the gap between #2 and #3.

And yes, if Ingram was 13 years younger than Simmons and putting up these numbers he'd be the better prospect than Simmons, ha. He'd be 5 years old.

I get your point, just disagree, which is fine. Simmons has more of an 'it' factor and the shooting is overblown. He should be great, and the gap is large.

I think Dunn is closer than some are proposing as well. His length on defense and overall production is special. The Sixers could fill in the shooting gap in free agency, and still have a much better roster if Dunn is the pick. Simmons and Ingram will be 1-2, but I do think Dunn brings great value as well.

Dell · Post #1263 » by **Dell** » Sun Jan 24, 2016 2:58 pm

At this point, I don't care which of the two it is... As long as it's one of the two.

phisixeag01 · Post #1264 » by **phisixeag01** » Sun Jan 24, 2016 6:48 pm

Not sure where to post this, but is anyone else watching the Temple SMU game? I would have loved to see the turnout without the snowstorm.

USWAY · Post #1265 » by **USWAY** » Sun Jan 24, 2016 11:05 pm

I really hope we get a top 2 pick.

PhilasFinest · Post #1266 » by **PhilasFinest** » Mon Jan 25, 2016 3:12 pm

Ill leave these here. 2 decent performances from the consensus favorite future Sixer hopefuls.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/DawkinsMTA/status/691627907597340673[/tweet]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/DawkinsMTA/status/691636809483296768[/tweet]

76ciology · Post #1267 » by **76ciology** » Mon Jan 25, 2016 3:51 pm

PhilasFinest wrote:Ill leave these here. 2 decent performances from the consensus favorite future Sixer hopefuls.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/DawkinsMTA/status/691627907597340673[/tweet]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/DawkinsMTA/status/691636809483296768[/tweet]

Trade Ish and 2nd rounder for capspace. Sign Pressey, we need the guy. He's got a heart of a champion, I saw that when he took that shot against the Celtics. High potential to be a tank captain.

joyeuxnoel · Post #1268 » by **joyeuxnoel** » Mon Jan 25, 2016 3:53 pm

i love ish but i hope he breaks his leg

we need a top 2 pick

PhilasFinest · Post #1269 » by **PhilasFinest** » Mon Jan 25, 2016 3:55 pm

joyeuxnoel wrote:i love ish but i hope he breaks his leg

we need a top 2 pick

WOW. Talk about extreme lol

76ciology · Post #1270 » by **76ciology** » Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:06 pm

joyeuxnoel wrote:i love ish but i hope he breaks his leg

we need a top 2 pick

76ciology · Post #1271 » by **76ciology** » Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:09 pm

Simmons still looks like a PF on offense. Looks like he plays high volume of post plays and as a roll man on half court setting. I don't think he can bulldoze his way in the NBA and I think defenders would go underneath the screen if he opts to run PnR as ball handler. But seems high chance to be an elite passer and transition player. He's got that LBJ freight train type feel on the break.

PhilasFinest · Post #1272 » by **PhilasFinest** » Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:13 pm

76ciology wrote:Simmons still looks like a PF on offense. Looks like he plays high volume of post plays and as a roll man on half court setting. I don't think he can bulldoze his way in the NBA and I think defenders would go underneath the screen if he opts to run PnR as ball handler. But seems high chance to be an elite passer and transition player. He's got that LBJ freight train type feel on the break.

Yea i think initially he's best suited at PF. Will allow him to take advantage of match ups more.

If he expands his game offensively (mainly jump shot) I could see him sliding down to the 3 for spurts.

76ciology · Post #1273 » by **76ciology** » Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:18 pm

PhilasFinest wrote:
76ciology wrote:Simmons still looks like a PF on offense. Looks like he plays high volume of post plays and as a roll man on half court setting. I don't think he can bulldoze his way in the NBA and I think defenders would go underneath the screen if he opts to run PnR as ball handler. But seems high chance to be an elite passer and transition player. He's got that LBJ freight train type feel on the break.

Yea i think initially he's best suited at PF. Will allow him to take advantage of match ups more.

If he expands his game offensively (mainly jump shot) I could see him sliding down to the 3 for spurts.

Developed Blake Griffin-ish. Not ish, u know what i mean.

Ericb5 · Post #1274 » by **Ericb5** » Mon Jan 25, 2016 7:24 pm

76ciology wrote:
PhilasFinest wrote:
76ciology wrote:Simmons still looks like a PF on offense. Looks like he plays high volume of post plays and as a roll man on half court setting. I don't think he can bulldoze his way in the NBA and I think defenders would go underneath the screen if he opts to run PnR as ball handler. But seems high chance to be an elite passer and transition player. He's got that LBJ freight train type feel on the break.

Yea i think initially he's best suited at PF. Will allow him to take advantage of match ups more.

If he expands his game offensively (mainly jump shot) I could see him sliding down to the 3 for spurts.

Developed Blake Griffin-ish. Not ish, u know what i mean.

I think he can play the 3 full time if/when he improves his jumper. Still, he is the type of guy that we would trade whoever is in his way if he had to play the 4.

We can't let ourselves be intoxicated by the fact that Ingram will slide right into the 3 seamlessly, whereas Simmons might encroach on some of our big guys.

I think that if we get the first pick that we should think of the Sixers as Simmons and Embiid. EVERYONE else would then be in the "find a role, or get traded situation."

As much as I talk about Simmons on these boards I am really trying to not think about him as a possibility. It just seems too good to be true given that we would only have a 25% chance at him if we finish with the worst record.

Post #1275 » by **Stanford** » Mon Jan 25, 2016 8:00 pm

Any of you, make the argument that Simmons isn't a point guard.

Agnostifarian · Post #1276 » by **Agnostifarian** » Mon Jan 25, 2016 8:22 pm

Stanford wrote:Any of you, make the argument that Simmons isn't a point guard.

I think the only way to make that argument is to say "Simmons can't guard PGs." I think PG is the best way to hide his shooting issues. Plenty of excellent PGs can't shoot.

Post #1277 » by **Duke4life831** » Mon Jan 25, 2016 10:28 pm

Stanford wrote:Any of you, make the argument that Simmons isn't a point guard.

He cant guard 1-3 and has no jumpshot

marcush · Post #1278 » by **marcush** » Mon Jan 25, 2016 10:46 pm

Stanford wrote:Any of you, make the argument that Simmons isn't a point guard.

Ye, I think the only way you are going to be dissapointed with this kid is if you don't play him with the ball in his hands. He will be the primary facilitator and defend 4's.

76ciology · Post #1279 » by **76ciology** » Tue Jan 26, 2016 1:42 am

Stanford wrote:Any of you, make the argument that Simmons isn't a point guard.

Magic Johnson?

Winejk · Post #1280 » by **Winejk** » Tue Jan 26, 2016 2:02 am

Everybody is worrying about Simmons shooting, but when I see his form in mid range shots, it doesn't look bad. Maybe he just needs to get into the gym to practice and develop confidence. Jordan, Magic and Kidd weren't great shooters when they first started out in the NBA. Jordan eventually became good while Magic and Kidd became acceptable. I"m not even sure Lebron was that great when he first entered the league. Growing into a 6'10" frame as a teenager can do funny things to mess up your coordination. Maybe he just needs time to mature to get the shooting part of the game down.