Can we wait until end of next season to acquire a legit PG?

NYKnicksTAPE · Post #121 » by **NYKnicksTAPE** » Mon Jan 25, 2016 3:03 am

ClydeRules wrote:If/when his shot starts falling we'll all love Grant.

His percentages from the field are so bad...it's unreal. How are you a PG in the NBA and you're shooting 14% from 3? :nonono:

He needs a ton of work on his shooting, ball handling, and body control. He also needs to get stronger...the slightest bit of contact and he's on the floor

NYKnicksTAPE · Post #122 » by **NYKnicksTAPE** » Mon Jan 25, 2016 3:06 am

Greenie wrote:
k r i s t a p s wrote:Grant breaks my heart every day... siiiiiiiigh

this right here

I thought that he'd be completely sh*tting on Jose by now :nonono:

At this point, the only reason I think Jose wouldn't 7-0 skunk him in a game of 1 on 1 is because Grant is like a decade younger and has the speed advantage.

thebuzzardman · Post #123 » by **thebuzzardman** » Mon Jan 25, 2016 3:08 am

It appears we traded a piece of crap for a slightly younger, different piece of crap. Or Fisher sucks at using the talent he has in a way best suited to it. Probably both.

Greenie · Post #124 » by **Greenie** » Mon Jan 25, 2016 3:09 am

NYKnicksTAPE wrote:
ClydeRules wrote:If/when his shot starts falling we'll all love Grant.

His percentages from the field are so bad...it's unreal. How are you a PG in the NBA and you're shooting 14% from 3?

He needs a ton of work on his shooting, ball handling, and body control. He also needs to get stronger...the slightest bit of contact and he's on the floor

He's always picking up his damn dribble too.

Greenie · Post #125 » by **Greenie** » Mon Jan 25, 2016 3:09 am

thebuzzardman wrote:It appears we traded a piece of crap for a slightly younger, different piece of crap. Or Fisher sucks at using the talent he has in a way best suited to it. Probably both.

Nah, just the former...

thebuzzardman · Post #126 » by **thebuzzardman** » Mon Jan 25, 2016 3:13 am

Greenie wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:It appears we traded a piece of crap for a slightly younger, different piece of crap. Or Fisher sucks at using the talent he has in a way best suited to it. Probably both.

Nah, just the former...

It's disappointing. Based on his college clips, I thought he'd be decent. Instead he's no better that dozens of DLeague bums. Basically, as of now I consider him a waste of an asset (to the extend Hardaway was an asset). At the least he's a bad draft pick. Maybe he'll prove me wrong, but for now he's like the uglier Mardy Collins.

Oh, well, at least Phil struck gold with those 2nd round picks Early and Thanasis. Oh wait...

reub · Post #127 » by **reub** » Mon Jan 25, 2016 3:57 am

His game would improve at Westchester. It wouldn't be a punishment. As long as he's on the team the Knicks won't bring in a replacement it seems. I guess that they don't want to hurt his confidence. I'd like to see an Erick Green, Trice or Jimmer get a shot. Toure Murry too. Although not a PG, Elliot Williams has been on fire since returning to the D league averaging 43 points. He might deserve a shot also.

AmazingJason · Post #128 » by **AmazingJason** » Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:31 am

ClydeRules wrote:His game would improve at Westchester. It wouldn't be a punishment. As long as he's on the team the Knicks won't bring in a replacement it seems. I guess that they don't want to hurt his confidence. I'd like to see an Erick Green, Trice or Jimmer get a shot. Toure Murry too. Although not a PG, Elliot Williams has been on fire since returning to the D league averaging 43 points. He might deserve a shot also.

Elliot Williams? The same guy who could barely bring the ball up against our garbage PGs? :lol:

AmazingJason · Post #129 » by **AmazingJason** » Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:33 am

thebuzzardman wrote:
Greenie wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:It appears we traded a piece of crap for a slightly younger, different piece of crap. Or Fisher sucks at using the talent he has in a way best suited to it. Probably both.

Nah, just the former...

It's disappointing. Based on his college clips, I thought he'd be decent. Instead he's no better that dozens of DLeague bums. Basically, as of now I consider him a waste of an asset (to the extend Hardaway was an asset). At the least he's a bad draft pick. Maybe he'll prove me wrong, but for now he's like the uglier Mardy Collins.

Oh, well, at least Phil struck gold with those 2nd round picks Early and Thanasis. Oh wait...

Cameron Payne was 5 picks away from us

Guy looks better than Grant in basically every aspect of basketball.

reub · Post #130 » by **reub** » Mon Jan 25, 2016 5:33 am

AmazingJason wrote:
ClydeRules wrote:His game would improve at Westchester. It wouldn't be a punishment. As long as he's on the team the Knicks won't bring in a replacement it seems. I guess that they don't want to hurt his confidence. I'd like to see an Erick Green, Trice or Jimmer get a shot. Toure Murry too. Although not a PG, Elliot Williams has been on fire since returning to the D league averaging 43 points. He might deserve a shot also.

Elliot Williams? The same guy who could barely bring the ball up against our garbage PGs?

Yes the same Williams who had no turnovers in the game and also had a plus minus of plus 12 against us that night.

NYKnicksTAPE · Post #131 » by **NYKnicksTAPE** » Mon Jan 25, 2016 5:38 am

Elliot Williams was straight up garbage against us. He literally couldn't penetrate inside the 3 point line against us. He was picking up his dribble at half court. Most of the guys in the D-League are bums. If we're not getting a PG through a trade, then there's really no point. Jimmer, Trice, or whatever other dude from the D-League isn't going to do anything.

This is what happens in the D-League...

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8xNkNUFcQk[/youtube]

KnicksGadfly · Post #132 » by **KnicksGadfly** » Mon Jan 25, 2016 7:35 am

I'm pissed at Grant too. It's like he's a damn rookie or something :nonono:

Post #133 » by **Thugger HBC** » Mon Jan 25, 2016 8:12 am

I've only been nice with Grant because the system doesn't really promote pg play. That and I really do believe we only drafted him as a favor to some former friends of Phil.

br7knicks · Post #134 » by **br7knicks** » Mon Jan 25, 2016 11:48 am

NY2TheBay wrote:obligatory

this.

after any loss or win, someone feels the need to say the same exact thing everyone has been pointing out since the beginning of the season with nothing new to bring to the table.

yesterday it was the thread about being a fan, now the PG. tomorrow will be about how the knicks need another SG

wang000hk · Post #135 » by **wang000hk** » Mon Jan 25, 2016 2:40 pm

I had high hope in Grant turning to be a decent starter for this team,and took the starting role from Jose since day 1 of 2016

No,his plays are very disappointing
Triangle or not,there isn't any excuse for 23y/o rookie PG to shoot 14% from the 3
His handles,speed aren't anything special,he doesn't have a jumpshot and just as bad as Jose on defense,if not worse

If the rookie has potential to be good,he must have figured out to play in certain system after several games
He already played in half of the season,and only had 1 good game so far

I don't watch every rookie this year,but I am almost sure he's one of the worst rookies drafted in first round,based on the numbers as well as eye test
If he was drafted in top 10,he would be a clear bust
I don't see him as future prospect anymore,he might turn out to be a solid backup on some other teams one day
But I wouldn't be surprised if he's out of the league after his rookie contract ends

DickGrayson · Post #136 » by **DickGrayson** » Mon Jan 25, 2016 2:56 pm

Give Grant some more time, it's way too **** early to drop him already.

I like Galloway, Calderon will get better.

But we can draft or trade for a young quality PG, question is, who is available?

knickstape21 · Post #137 » by **knickstape21** » Mon Jan 25, 2016 3:08 pm

DickGrayson wrote:Give Grant some more time, it's way too **** early to drop him already.

I like Galloway, Calderon will get better.

But we can draft or trade for a young quality PG, question is, who is available?

Would love for us to find a way to trade for Archie Goodwin. Perfect fit.

Post #138 » by **moocow007** » Mon Jan 25, 2016 3:17 pm

DickGrayson wrote:Give Grant some more time, it's way too **** early to drop him already.

I like Galloway, Calderon will get better.

But we can draft or trade for a young quality PG, question is, who is available?

Post #139 » by **moocow007** » Mon Jan 25, 2016 3:19 pm

So we don't want to bring in a guard that might surprise with ability to penetrate, how about we bring in a guard that can defend? Right now we have neither?

Elijah Milsap or Toure Murry would have given Fisher some defensive options for times when Calderon and friends decide that every day is be kind to opposing guards day. Yes, yes, their offense is no good but it's not like Calderon's offense has been anything to write home to mom about has it?

And come on Phil, find another team with a similar contract as Jose's that is willing to take Jose already. If for nothing else than to give us someone else to complain about!

Polk377 · Post #140 » by **Polk377** » Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:06 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
Polk377 wrote:I personally believe that the top target this offseason is going to be Rajon Rondo. If they don't sign Rondo they will stick it out with Calderon and Grant for one more year. I have a feeling that if the spot is open in 2017 Chris Paul will come over to end his career with his buddy Melo.

That'll never happen. By the way, did you know that Phil Jackson was a our GM?

Actually did you know that he is not the GM but the President of Basketball Operations? The GM title belongs to a guy named Steve Mills. Ever hear of him?