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Fri 1/22/2016 - 8:00 PM - Miami Heat @ Toronto Raptors

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Re: Fri 1/22/2016 - 8:00 PM - Miami Heat @ Toronto Raptors 

Post#661 » by contract » Sun Jan 24, 2016 2:22 am

QUIZ wrote:Yeah until you meet a real hero in the form of LeBron. Who ends up sweeping you on his own while taking 30 shots per game.

Not to point out the obvious but ... we don't have Lebron or any comparable player. The days of Wade having a fighting chance to out-duel Lebron are 5 years in the rearview mirror. We can't out-talent the Cavs and probably 6 other teams in the East. We can win with team ball, or we can lose by riding a fading superstar. Those are really the only 2 options available.
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Re: Fri 1/22/2016 - 8:00 PM - Miami Heat @ Toronto Raptors 

Post#662 » by Hallstar » Sun Jan 24, 2016 12:28 pm

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Hallstar wrote:This generic "team basketball" foolishness this board seems to be pushing just means clip Wade and Bosh's nuts to watch fringe NBA talent fail around them...and they should like it.

I don't care if they like it. We've seen what Wade and Bosh are capable of accomplishing doing all the heavy lifting ... and it looks suspiciously like a .500 team. Wade is no longer a top 3 top 10 top 20 player like he used to be, and Bosh was never on that level. Two 2nd tier stars can't carry a team to a championship.


And relying on ball movement to Tyler Johnson and Josh Richardson can carry us to a championship?

.500 is better than 30 wins
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Re: Fri 1/22/2016 - 8:00 PM - Miami Heat @ Toronto Raptors 

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Hallstar wrote:This generic "team basketball" foolishness this board seems to be pushing just means clip Wade and Bosh's nuts to watch fringe NBA talent fail around them...and they should like it.

I don't care if they like it. We've seen what Wade and Bosh are capable of accomplishing doing all the heavy lifting ... and it looks suspiciously like a .500 team. Wade is no longer a top 3 top 10 top 20 player like he used to be, and Bosh was never on that level. Two 2nd tier stars can't carry a team to a championship.


And relying on ball movement to Tyler Johnson and Josh Richardson can carry us to a championship?

.500 is better than 30 wins

Ball movement always produces better results. It's no coincidence that teams with excellent ball movement always seem to have deep benches. Limited players are helped by good ball movement.
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Re: Fri 1/22/2016 - 8:00 PM - Miami Heat @ Toronto Raptors 

Post#664 » by Bishop45 » Sun Jan 24, 2016 6:15 pm

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contract wrote:I don't care if they like it. We've seen what Wade and Bosh are capable of accomplishing doing all the heavy lifting ... and it looks suspiciously like a .500 team. Wade is no longer a top 3 top 10 top 20 player like he used to be, and Bosh was never on that level. Two 2nd tier stars can't carry a team to a championship.


And relying on ball movement to Tyler Johnson and Josh Richardson can carry us to a championship?

.500 is better than 30 wins

Ball movement always produces better results. It's no coincidence that teams with excellent ball movement always seem to have deep benches. Limited players are helped by good ball movement.


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Re: Fri 1/22/2016 - 8:00 PM - Miami Heat @ Toronto Raptors 

Post#665 » by HeatFanDan » Mon Jan 25, 2016 10:03 pm

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dolphinatik wrote:20 shots for 2 players while the rest of the teams gets scraps? We still think we can win like that, I mean seriously that is our plan? Allstar voting is done can get back to team basketball? Still trying to run Tyler at pg? really? I want us to stop putting players in position of failure. Would have been a better loss letting Richardson make more mistakes and giving Stokes time to see what he can do. He is undersized but fights for position.

Nobody else on that floor can score. The objective of the game is putting the ball in the hole.

Right now it's fringe NBA talent around Wade and Bosh....what do you expect ? You complain about Tyler at pg like it's some 1st option. He's 3rd string, and you're arguing for the 4th string...you really think it matters?

This generic "team basketball" foolishness this board seems to be pushing just means clip Wade and Bosh's nuts to watch fringe NBA talent fail around them...and they should like it.

They're just words, they have no basis in reality of the team. We had fine team basketball with Ray Allen, Shane Battier, younger Haslem and Birdman as the role players who you know..played their roles.


The day rookie Josh Richardson determines anything significant to the success of this team, Wade and Bosh would have already been traded or out for the year
Players make the team.

This, + 1,00,000. All of these people calling for Wade to "share the ball more", are just employing a more subtle brand of Wade hate, imo. Why is it that when Wade hits Hassan with an alley-oop for a dunk, people are all "great pass by Wade!, blah, blah, blah", but when he dishes the ball to one of our scrubs who proceeds to shoot a brick, nobody says s**t? Wade is showing "trust" in his teammates either way, but he can't make the shot go in for the other guy.

These people thinking that less shots, and in turn, less ppg for Wade and Bosh, so that these borderline D-leaguers can get more opportunities is somehow going to lead to more W's is laughable.

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