Bradley Beal - Part III

[jmrosenth]

I'm sure it's been talked about to death on these boards, but why is he so injury prone? He's played in only 74% of games through his first four years, and that number is trending the wrong way. It took Wall until season four to figure it out and he's said he needed to figure out how to take better care of himself in order to get through the NBA grind. Is that Beal's issue or does he simply have chronic types of injuries/made of glass that we better start banking on (eg, like someone like Eric Gordon)? Where's that crystal ball?

[Dark Faze]

He's got a sprinters body. Lots of mass, made for quick straight line movements. He's not made for endurance.

Still though, I don't think the minutes restriction or the ptoential of missing 20 games a year is that big of a deal given the way the league is today--my concerns are more about his level of play.

[Higga]

He's just not a max player. Hate to say it, I was very high on him, but you will never win a title with Beal as one of your max contract players. Need a lot more bang for the buck.

Knowing our luck though he'll sign somewhere else and play 80 games a year for the next decade.

[fishercob]

Beal is in his fourth season. He should know by now not to let his nose get broken when he gets elbowed by a 225 pound man.

[Kanyewest]

Kobe had this injury back in 2012- a broken nose and a concussion. Kobe came back pretty quickly although I suspect Beal may be held out longer because of how damaging concussions can be.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmom7shnrn0[/youtube]

BTW, Kobe played again in that game which was just an all star game.

[jangles86]

May we see the mask?

[AFM]

It would be sick if he came out in a Darth Vader mask

[Tricky_Kid]

It would be sick if he came out in a Darth Vader mask

I prefer Darth Maul

If he could just play this way and add in more bulldozes to the rim it would help a lot. He's not effected much by contact when he's in the air..he needs to take advantage of that.

I wanna see him initiate the offense more see how his playmaking is now.

I don't. This is exactly what causes his decline in efficiency. Beal needs to play catch-and-shoot, or catch-and-attack when the defense is scrambling. Beal is at his worst when he tries to initiate offense against a set defense. Leave that to Wall and Sessions.

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[gravytrain24]

I'm a huge Bradley Beal fan, but these injuries are just bad luck. I'm hoping we can turn him into a Manu Ginobili, Jamal Crawford type, where you are technically the 6th man but you play the important stretches a starter would play. Not a max deal, maybe convince the agent to do a 1 year deal to prove that he can stay healthy and then see.

[TheSecretWeapon]

I'm a huge Bradley Beal fan, but these injuries are just bad luck. I'm hoping we can turn him into a Manu Ginobili, Jamal Crawford type, where you are technically the 6th man but you play the important stretches a starter would play. Not a max deal, maybe convince the agent to do a 1 year deal to prove that he can stay healthy and then see.

The challenge with doing a one-year deal -- signing him to his qualifying offer, for example -- is that he becomes an unrestricted free agent. This summer, the Wizards can match offers.

Definitely agree he's not a max salary player.

Last night on Twitter, people were throwing around comps. One of the more apt ones was probably Allan Houston. Houston was thoroughly average, signed a HUGE contract with the Knicks (run at the time by Ernie Grunfeld), and proceeded to regress to significantly worse than average. Houston's best season with the Knicks was his 7th (probably a contract year), and that was still barely better than average.

Another name tossed out was Hornacek, which drew an unwarranted negative reaction. The Wizards would be very pleased if Beal had a Hornacek-like career.

[AFM]

Nah he remind me of Q Rich
I posted the player comps before, their stats are almost completely identical

[deneem4]

I think we're purposely being cautious on Beal to keep his value low, other than the broken nose I think his injury is more of a nagging one like what wall dealing with....and since we don't want to match a max thr more injury prone he seems, the less we would have to match....Hopeful thinking

[TheSecretWeapon]

Nah he remind me of Q Rich
I posted the player comps before, their stats are almost completely identical

Yeah, I mentioned QRich too last night. Not well received, but it's an apt comparison. There's way more similarity between Beal and Richardson than between Beal and Hornacek or Ray Allen.

[Dark Faze]

Nah--Q-Rich was a poor mans Brad if anything. Q-Rich is what Brad would become if he tore an ACL and then resigned himself to the bench for the rest of his career.

I still think Brad can bounce back from all this. I think we need a leader to make it happen. Another all-star alongside Wall to take the scoring pressure off the backcourt.

[TheSecretWeapon]

Nah--Q-Rich was a poor mans Brad if anything. Q-Rich is what Brad would become if he tore an ACL and then resigned himself to the bench for the rest of his career.

I still think Brad can bounce back from all this. I think we need a leader to make it happen. Another all-star alongside Wall to take the scoring pressure off the backcourt.

Well, I hope so. However, through his first four seasons, Richardson had a PPA* of 95. Through my most recent stat update, Beal's PPA (now through four seasons): 95. Beal should end up playing more minutes -- he's almost to Richardson's 4-year total already.

Beal needs to play better.

* -- In PPA, 100 is average and higher is better.

[Kanyewest]

I'm a huge Bradley Beal fan, but these injuries are just bad luck. I'm hoping we can turn him into a Manu Ginobili, Jamal Crawford type, where you are technically the 6th man but you play the important stretches a starter would play. Not a max deal, maybe convince the agent to do a 1 year deal to prove that he can stay healthy and then see.

The challenge with doing a one-year deal -- signing him to his qualifying offer, for example -- is that he becomes an unrestricted free agent. This summer, the Wizards can match offers.

Definitely agree he's not a max salary player.

Last night on Twitter, people were throwing around comps. One of the more apt ones was probably Allan Houston. Houston was thoroughly average, signed a HUGE contract with the Knicks (run at the time by Ernie Grunfeld), and proceeded to regress to significantly worse than average. Houston's best season with the Knicks was his 7th (probably a contract year), and that was still barely better than average.

Another name tossed out was Hornacek, which drew an unwarranted negative reaction. The Wizards would be very pleased if Beal had a Hornacek-like career.

Although Grunfeld's giving Houston 5 years and $35 million may have been an overpay, the six year $120 million dollar contract that Houston signed when Scott Layden was GM was really huge!

[dckingsfan]

Trade deadline is coming and we should be sellers. Someone who needs a SG for the playoffs. He isn't the right guy to play alongside of Wall.

[TheSecretWeapon]

I'm a huge Bradley Beal fan, but these injuries are just bad luck. I'm hoping we can turn him into a Manu Ginobili, Jamal Crawford type, where you are technically the 6th man but you play the important stretches a starter would play. Not a max deal, maybe convince the agent to do a 1 year deal to prove that he can stay healthy and then see.

The challenge with doing a one-year deal -- signing him to his qualifying offer, for example -- is that he becomes an unrestricted free agent. This summer, the Wizards can match offers.

Definitely agree he's not a max salary player.

Last night on Twitter, people were throwing around comps. One of the more apt ones was probably Allan Houston. Houston was thoroughly average, signed a HUGE contract with the Knicks (run at the time by Ernie Grunfeld), and proceeded to regress to significantly worse than average. Houston's best season with the Knicks was his 7th (probably a contract year), and that was still barely better than average.

Another name tossed out was Hornacek, which drew an unwarranted negative reaction. The Wizards would be very pleased if Beal had a Hornacek-like career.

Although Grunfeld's giving Houston 5 years and $35 million may have been an overpay. The six year $120 million dollar contract that Houston signed when Scott Layden was GM was really huge!

Yeah, that second one was insane considering how poorly Houston had played for them.

[AFM]

Nah--Q-Rich was a poor mans Brad if anything. Q-Rich is what Brad would become if he tore an ACL and then resigned himself to the bench for the rest of his career.

I still think Brad can bounce back from all this. I think we need a leader to make it happen. Another all-star alongside Wall to take the scoring pressure off the backcourt.

Not really man, take a look at the stats


Beal is all hype so far.

[tontoz]

Hornacek was easily better than Beal. He was actually good off the dribble. Beal isn't.

Jeff's career ORTG was 117. I doubt Beal will ever have a season close to that.