2016 Royal Rumble

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Who will win the Royal Rumble?

Roman Reigns
5
24%
HHH
5
24%
Brock Lesnar
0
No votes
Bray Wyatt
8
38%
Dean Ambrose
1
5%
Other
2
10%
 
Total votes: 21

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Re: 2016 Royal Rumble 

Post#241 » by Dunthreevy » Mon Jan 25, 2016 10:56 pm

Marcus wrote:I know this is essentially what's been going on for decades now. But being the only legit ballgame in town and KNOWING the people will come back for more week after week after week. What real incentive does Vince have to give anybody what "they want" in his product?

You don't like Reigns? so what. You're not going anywhere else to get your fix and even if you did WWE isn't going anywhere. So we're basically riding this thing out until one of "our guys" is deemed worthy enough to be "the guy". Sucks, yeah, but what else can we do? Sit back and wait for that bone to get tossed when Vince feels like tossing us a champion we want.


Basically waiting for Vince to die, because that's the only way he's giving up creative control of the company.
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Re: 2016 Royal Rumble 

Post#242 » by whysoserious » Mon Jan 25, 2016 11:00 pm

improper wrote:It's a shame that the WWE forgot that most great faces are first heels. You put in your work as a heel, gradually get over, and then you turn face and everyone likes you. Reigns is in desperate need of a heel run, because the smark crowds (which are increasingly more of them) will never truly embrace him so long as he's being shoved down their throats the way he is right now.


Not only that but as a heel you really get to stretch your limits and find your groove as a character. You can take chances and try things but going straight to good guy leaves you very little room to explore. You have almost a box to fit in with a little room to stretch but as a heel you can really go outside the box and do things and find your groove as an entertainer/character.
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Re: 2016 Royal Rumble 

Post#243 » by Dr Positivity » Tue Jan 26, 2016 12:44 am

improper wrote:It's a shame that the WWE forgot that most great faces are first heels. You put in your work as a heel, gradually get over, and then you turn face and everyone likes you. Reigns is in desperate need of a heel run, because the smark crowds (which are increasingly more of them) will never truly embrace him so long as he's being shoved down their throats the way he is right now.


I think they want Reigns to be little kids favorite wrestler. That's why there'll be reluctance to turn him heel
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Re: 2016 Royal Rumble 

Post#244 » by improper » Tue Jan 26, 2016 12:46 am

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improper wrote:It's a shame that the WWE forgot that most great faces are first heels. You put in your work as a heel, gradually get over, and then you turn face and everyone likes you. Reigns is in desperate need of a heel run, because the smark crowds (which are increasingly more of them) will never truly embrace him so long as he's being shoved down their throats the way he is right now.


I think they want Reigns to be little kids favorite wrestler. That's why there'll be reluctance to turn him heel


I don't doubt that, but I still think it's a short-sighted move on their part. Heels become faces all the time and vice versa, and the best way to find your character before a face turn is to spend some time as a heel. The fact of the matter is that I don't think he'll ever be embraced as a pure face until they give him a legit heel run. Give him eight to twelve months as a bad guy, let him find his character, and then try to push him as a face again.

It's just going to be embarrassing if he gets booed in favor of Triple H at Wrestlemania. The WWE has to know that's coming.
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Re: 2016 Royal Rumble 

Post#245 » by Dr Positivity » Tue Jan 26, 2016 1:43 am

Yeah I would consider swerving plans like the Bryan year and making Ambrose win over Reigns and HHH at Wrestlemania. That crowns the real top face right now and also gives a reason to make Reigns snap and turn heel shortly after Wrestlemania if they want to. The IC Belt doesn't need Ambrose right now, with Owens, Zayn, Styles, and Jericho it would be an easy belt to book the next few months and into Wrestlemania if Ambrose dropped it on a Raw and then got into the main event instead
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Re: 2016 Royal Rumble 

Post#246 » by Spens1 » Tue Jan 26, 2016 5:08 am

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Reigns-HHH is a pretty lackluster main event, I think anyone arguing otherwise is fooling themselves. But I think its a match they were forced into because of injuries and of the options they have, I think its one of the better ones.

I fundamentally disagree with the idea that predictable=bad. I'm not excited about HHH-Reigns because I'm not really a fan of either guy and the story they've told hasn't really appealed to me. I'm pretty excited about Ambrose-Jericho even though I figured that was probably the direction they were going after that 6-man tag all those months ago and I can probably give you a basic outline of how the feud will play out and culminate, so I see a high level of predictability there. But I'm a fan of both guys and I'm confident that they can create a story that appeals to me.


gimme brock vs wyatt for the title, as lackluster as that sounds, if you do it even half right, wyatt and heyman could sell the people on it at least. I mean with the family, there is so many variables you could work with also

Roman sure as hell can't right now and it will come down to HHH basically carrying this feud by himself sadly, a 47 year old man will have to carry this on the mic

predictable doesn't always equal bad, i mean New Japan is incredibly predictable at times but they do a damn good job booking stuff and making it exciting, this storyline has been predictable and dull, thats fatal. if it was predictable, but was exciting then that would be great

Ambrose vs Jericho (heel jericho that is) would be amazing, honestly have it co-main event


I'm with you in that strictly as a personal preference, I would've preferred Wyatt vs Lesnar be for the title. But in terms of the story they've been telling for now close to 3 months, HHH-Reigns should be the title match. I'm not a fan of Reigns, you clearly aren't either, but that's the only problem with the story they've been telling. If they'd been telling this exact same story with Ambrose or a healthy Cesaro or Owens or a few others in the role of protagonist, I'd be excited about it. But it is Reigns in the role and for me and a lot of other people, that makes it a fatal flaw. But if you're a fan of Reigns, then this is great.


yeah i know what you mean, raw has essentially been only this storyline so i guess it makes sense, honestly though from preference i just want this one to end, its been pretty bad for the most part (stephanie alone has made this pretty horrible)

i agree, its reigns, its fitting a square peg in a circular hole, he isn't the sort of face they are booking him to be in this, sad thing is they have better fits for that type of face on the roster already (two of them in fact, Sami Zayn and Daniel Bryan)
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Re: 2016 Royal Rumble 

Post#247 » by SDM » Tue Jan 26, 2016 12:39 pm

AJ took too many bumps... that's my lone criticism. His theme is ridiculous.
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Re: 2016 Royal Rumble 

Post#248 » by Scott Hall » Tue Jan 26, 2016 1:45 pm

That was one of the most predictable Rumbles ever no surprise entrants as all smart marks knew HHH and
AJ Styles would be in it. You knew the Wyatts would take out Brock etc...

With all the injuries a $hitty Rumble was expected and the WWE's lazy booking and lack of creating
stars over the last few years continues to haunt them. It's amazing how many jobbers and pointless
mid carders there are on the roster right now.

There's a lot of talented performers on the roster but the booking over the years has just killed any interest
in them as characters that you don't take them seriously because you know WWE won't take them seriously.
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Re: 2016 Royal Rumble 

Post#249 » by Latrell » Tue Jan 26, 2016 6:52 pm

Dr Positivity wrote:
improper wrote:It's a shame that the WWE forgot that most great faces are first heels. You put in your work as a heel, gradually get over, and then you turn face and everyone likes you. Reigns is in desperate need of a heel run, because the smark crowds (which are increasingly more of them) will never truly embrace him so long as he's being shoved down their throats the way he is right now.


I think they want Reigns to be little kids favorite wrestler. That's why there'll be reluctance to turn him heel


Kids are front-runners. They'll like whoever is being pushed as top face.
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Re: 2016 Royal Rumble 

Post#250 » by King Malta » Wed Jan 27, 2016 1:52 am

If you're going to turn Reigns heel you put the belt on him first anyway IMO.

Have him roll Trips at mania then turn on the fans for not getting behind him, "I did in spite of you, not because of you etc etc". Then hopefully you start to get some of the top guys back and have him go into a program with Cena or something. It'd at least be fun to see who the Smarks boo in that match up :lol:
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Re: 2016 Royal Rumble 

Post#251 » by Spens1 » Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:38 am

King Malta wrote:If you're going to turn Reigns heel you put the belt on him first anyway IMO.

Have him roll Trips at mania then turn on the fans for not getting behind him, "I did in spite of you, not because of you etc etc". Then hopefully you start to get some of the top guys back and have him go into a program with Cena or something. It'd at least be fun to see who the Smarks boo in that match up :lol:


yeah if thats in a smark city, WM20 reaction is all i can think of (think that was Goldberg vs Lesnar in the main event), if not that, maybe even Reigns

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