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Fundamental problems or growing pains?

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Fundamental problems or growing pains?

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Re: Fundamental problems or growing pains? 

Post#41 » by MrBigShot » Wed Jan 27, 2016 2:03 am

Kilo wrote:
The Pistons are accustomed to Andre Drummond missing free throws, and he was 1 of 10 Monday. The rest of the team was 15 of 23. Reggie Jackson, Stanley Johnson, Brandon Jennings and Aron Baynes, all competent free-throw shooters, missed two each and were 7 of 15 collectively. "Andre's, we're just going to have to live with that. But the others, yeah, that's a problem," Van Gundy said.


We're going to have to live with Andre shooting 1-for-10 from the foul line. Think about that and tell me how a team can contend with a 22M/yr player who can't play in close games late, or even in blow out leads for that matter.

That is a fundamental problem.


Though I don't advocate trading Dre, Kilo has a point. 35% FT shooting is unacceptable and if the hack a shaq rule doesn't get changed (strongly doubt it will), teams will utilize it against us. And even though it doesn't always help, statistically speaking giving up 2 FTs to someone shooting 35%? I'll take that all day if I was a fan of another team rooting against us.
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Re: Fundamental problems or growing pains? 

Post#42 » by Todd3 » Wed Jan 27, 2016 3:13 am

Kilo wrote:
The Pistons are accustomed to Andre Drummond missing free throws, and he was 1 of 10 Monday. The rest of the team was 15 of 23. Reggie Jackson, Stanley Johnson, Brandon Jennings and Aron Baynes, all competent free-throw shooters, missed two each and were 7 of 15 collectively. "Andre's, we're just going to have to live with that. But the others, yeah, that's a problem," Van Gundy said.


We're going to have to live with Andre shooting 1-for-10 from the foul line. Think about that and tell me how a team can contend with a 22M/yr player who can't play in close games late, or even in blow out leads for that matter.

That is a fundamental problem.


Learn the rules. No intentional fouls in last 2 minutes.

All of your bitching about FTs and you have yet to provide any proof that it's actually affecting us negatively. We are 11-5 when he takes 10+ FTs. That is the opposite of what you are claiming.

Russell, Wilt, Shaq, Ben Wallace...all bad FTs...18 championships combined.

Your argument has a fundamental problem.
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Re: Fundamental problems or growing pains? 

Post#43 » by El Chivo » Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:31 am

yeah, in the last 2 minutes he can't take a rebound or set a screen or he gets legitimately fouled. WOOOOOW, you know the rules!
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Re: Fundamental problems or growing pains? 

Post#44 » by Kilo » Wed Jan 27, 2016 12:48 pm

Todd3 wrote:
Kilo wrote:
The Pistons are accustomed to Andre Drummond missing free throws, and he was 1 of 10 Monday. The rest of the team was 15 of 23. Reggie Jackson, Stanley Johnson, Brandon Jennings and Aron Baynes, all competent free-throw shooters, missed two each and were 7 of 15 collectively. "Andre's, we're just going to have to live with that. But the others, yeah, that's a problem," Van Gundy said.


We're going to have to live with Andre shooting 1-for-10 from the foul line. Think about that and tell me how a team can contend with a 22M/yr player who can't play in close games late, or even in blow out leads for that matter.

That is a fundamental problem.


Learn the rules. No intentional fouls in last 2 minutes.

All of your bitching about FTs and you have yet to provide any proof that it's actually affecting us negatively. We are 11-5 when he takes 10+ FTs. That is the opposite of what you are claiming.

Russell, Wilt, Shaq, Ben Wallace...all bad FTs...18 championships combined.

Your argument has a fundamental problem.


So players will just disguise them better. He gets a defensive rebound and is fouled by the opposing player fighting for it as well. And on offense he just better stand off out of the way and certainly no PNR screens or fighting for position.
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Re: Fundamental problems or growing pains? 

Post#45 » by Billl » Wed Jan 27, 2016 1:43 pm

Todd3 wrote:
Kilo wrote:
The Pistons are accustomed to Andre Drummond missing free throws, and he was 1 of 10 Monday. The rest of the team was 15 of 23. Reggie Jackson, Stanley Johnson, Brandon Jennings and Aron Baynes, all competent free-throw shooters, missed two each and were 7 of 15 collectively. "Andre's, we're just going to have to live with that. But the others, yeah, that's a problem," Van Gundy said.


We're going to have to live with Andre shooting 1-for-10 from the foul line. Think about that and tell me how a team can contend with a 22M/yr player who can't play in close games late, or even in blow out leads for that matter.

That is a fundamental problem.


Learn the rules. No intentional fouls in last 2 minutes.

All of your bitching about FTs and you have yet to provide any proof that it's actually affecting us negatively. We are 11-5 when he takes 10+ FTs. That is the opposite of what you are claiming.

Russell, Wilt, Shaq, Ben Wallace...all bad FTs...18 championships combined.

Your argument has a fundamental problem.


Of course, you ignore the fact that teams use the hack a dre almost exclusively when they are behind double digits to us. We should be 16-0 in games like that.

It really isn't disputable that his FT shooting is a problem. Basically any time we get a big lead on anyone now, they go immediately into hack a dre and can get right back into the game.

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