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Re: GT: WAS v TOR: 2016-01-26 @ 7:30 PM 

Post#141 » by thebigE » Wed Jan 27, 2016 4:06 am

Dark Faze wrote:Ted owning two sports franchises has nothing to do with it--he's just soft. The only job of the owners is to seek out the best front office talent--people that know what they are doing. He fails at that.

So then you agree it's not working and it's in DC's best interest if Ted didn't own the Wizards? My point all along, no matter how you want to arrive at that conclusion.
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Re: GT: WAS v TOR: 2016-01-26 @ 7:30 PM 

Post#142 » by long suffrin' boulez fan » Wed Jan 27, 2016 4:09 am

Dark Faze wrote:Ted owning two sports franchises has nothing to do with it--he's just soft. The only job of the owners is to seek out the best front office talent--people that know what they are doing. He fails at that.


Agreed. He's Charmin soft and even admits as much when he says he probably cares about being liked too much.

He needs to step up and do the obvious, right thing. He's perilously close to losing the only one's that matter - the fanbase that buys tickets, cable packages and merchandise.
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Re: GT: WAS v TOR: 2016-01-26 @ 7:30 PM 

Post#143 » by wegetitin08 » Wed Jan 27, 2016 4:12 am

GG I wish I got to see more of Bradley Beal he's one of my fav young SGs in the league
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Re: GT: WAS v TOR: 2016-01-26 @ 7:30 PM 

Post#144 » by nuposse04 » Wed Jan 27, 2016 4:14 am

wegetitin08 wrote:GG I wish I got to see more of Bradley Beal he's one of my fav young SGs in the league


So you must be a fan of low bone density :P































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Re: GT: WAS v TOR: 2016-01-26 @ 7:30 PM 

Post#145 » by FAH1223 » Wed Jan 27, 2016 12:45 pm

Ernie has built another flawed roster. After 13 years, same old same old!
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Re: GT: WAS v TOR: 2016-01-26 @ 7:30 PM 

Post#146 » by Tricky_Kid » Wed Jan 27, 2016 12:45 pm

Any news about firing Randy / EG?

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Re: GT: WAS v TOR: 2016-01-26 @ 7:30 PM 

Post#147 » by CoachD » Wed Jan 27, 2016 2:57 pm

nuposse04 wrote:
wegetitin08 wrote:GG I wish I got to see more of Bradley Beal he's one of my fav young SGs in the league


So you must be a fan of low bone density :P































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Re: GT: WAS v TOR: 2016-01-26 @ 7:30 PM 

Post#148 » by Mickstix » Wed Jan 27, 2016 3:46 pm

Unfortunately, Ernie probably has another coach in him, before he gets the boot.. Ted isn't firing a GM mid season, if at all.. So best case is we get a new lame duck coach sometime this year, possibly a new GM for next who won't fire the coach until mid season next year at the very least.. IOW, at least 2 more years of status quo.. Yay! :(
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Re: GT: WAS v TOR: 2016-01-26 @ 7:30 PM 

Post#149 » by nate33 » Wed Jan 27, 2016 4:16 pm

Mickstix wrote:Unfortunately, Ernie probably has another coach in him, before he gets the boot.. Ted isn't firing a GM mid season, if at all.. So best case is we get a new lame duck coach sometime this year, possibly a new GM for next who won't fire the coach until mid season next year at the very least.. IOW, at least 2 more years of status quo.. Yay! :(

I agree that Randy will remain coach for the rest of the season no matter what. But I don't think it's a sure thing that EG and Randy stick around past this year. If the Wizards miss the playoffs, Ted is going to have to look long and hard at things. And it helps that EG and Randy's contracts are up. I mean, for cryin' out loud, Grunfeld has been the GM for 13 freaking years and the team hasn't cracked 46 games even once.

It seems like in several of the past seasons, there was always some excuse or rationale to keep the existing management structure in place:

In 2014-15, we made the 2nd round and were a John Wall injury away from the ECF's.
In 2013-14, we had just made the 2nd round after 5 years of suckitude. Tough to fire Wittman after that.
In 2012-13, we were 24-18 after Wall returned from injury (until we tanked the last 5 games). We had "turned the corner".
In 2011-12, Randy installed late in the season and the team starts to look half-decent after the Nene acquisition.
In 2010-11, a complete rebuild/tank year where we started a rookie John Wall and youngsters Blatche and McGee.
In 2009-10, The "gungate" year which led to the decision to rebuild. Jamison, Butler and Haywood are dumped.

The last time it would have been really easy to change management was when Ted first took over in 2010. He should have canned EG and started from scratch. But once he made the decision to stick with EG, there really wasn't any offseason where Ted didn't have a pretty good excuse to stick with the status quo. Each offseason, he could tell himself that his overall ownership strategy was essentially working, which beats admitting that he screwed up in 2010.

That narrative will finally change this summer. If the Wizards miss the playoffs despite a healthy Wall and Gortat, then it's compelling evidence that the plan isn't working and a justification for a change in management.
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Re: GT: WAS v TOR: 2016-01-26 @ 7:30 PM 

Post#150 » by Higga » Wed Jan 27, 2016 6:20 pm

At least we have last postseason. That was fun...
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Re: GT: WAS v TOR: 2016-01-26 @ 7:30 PM 

Post#151 » by bape_lovers » Wed Jan 27, 2016 11:26 pm

was it PP that gave you guys that strong of a postseason? was happen to that fire against us the playoffs
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Re: GT: WAS v TOR: 2016-01-26 @ 7:30 PM 

Post#152 » by nuposse04 » Wed Jan 27, 2016 11:34 pm

bape_lovers wrote:was it PP that gave you guys that strong of a postseason? was happen to that fire against us the playoffs


You guys actually improved your roster we added lateral moves who got injured leading to an exposure of clear lack of depth.
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Re: GT: WAS v TOR: 2016-01-26 @ 7:30 PM 

Post#153 » by TheSecretWeapon » Wed Jan 27, 2016 11:35 pm

bape_lovers wrote:was it PP that gave you guys that strong of a postseason? was happen to that fire against us the playoffs

Kinda everyone kicked the Raptors in the tail in the playoffs. Gortat and Pierce were great; Wall was excellent; Porter was very good. Beal was decent. Even Drew Gooden was solid.

For the Raptors, the Lowry injury was devastating. He wasn't able to play and probably shouldn't have been on the floor. Derozan wasn't much good either.

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Re: GT: WAS v TOR: 2016-01-26 @ 7:30 PM 

Post#154 » by closg00 » Wed Jan 27, 2016 11:54 pm

long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:
Dark Faze wrote:Ted owning two sports franchises has nothing to do with it--he's just soft. The only job of the owners is to seek out the best front office talent--people that know what they are doing. He fails at that.


Agreed. He's Charmin soft and even admits as much when he says he probably cares about being liked too much.

He needs to step up and do the obvious, right thing. He's perilously close to losing the only one's that matter - the fanbase that buys tickets, cable packages and merchandise.


:nod: Ted is Pillsbury Doughboy soft and Ernie makes Ted dependent on him.
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Re: GT: WAS v TOR: 2016-01-26 @ 7:30 PM 

Post#155 » by gravytrain24 » Thu Jan 28, 2016 4:32 am

As a Caps and Wizards fan, it has to be obvious that the Ted cares so much more and is way more involved in hockey then he does with the Wizards. Shorter leashes on coaches/gms, more calculated moves and trades even attending way more games.Ted=dad, Ernie=creepy uncle, Caps=hot daughter, Wiz=adopted child.
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Re: GT: WAS v TOR: 2016-01-26 @ 7:30 PM 

Post#156 » by Dark Faze » Thu Jan 28, 2016 12:06 pm

See it's hard to tell because McPhee (GM of caps) was actually really good. McPhee more or less made the Nash led Phoenix Suns of the NHL in the caps--and the caps fizzed out in similar fashion, failing because regular season scoring dominance wasn't leading to playoff success.

It would make sense to keep a GM like that employed. And with having a history of consistently making the playoffs but not progressing--that tends to be a recipe for trying some different coaching styles to see who can get you over the hump.

I do think he cares more for the Caps--but I don't think there's evidence of him having markedly different strategies in regards to his vision for the FO's.

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