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Re: GT: Hornets @ Jazz, Wed. Jan 27 9:00 PM EST 

Post#281 » by HornetJail » Thu Jan 28, 2016 5:37 pm

Troy is the kind of catch and shoot player every team needs. If Troy got the open looks Marvin Williams and PJ Hairston get, he'd shoot 50% from deep on 5 or 6 attempts a game. Reason #1 why Marvin shooting 35% from deep and PJ shooting 31% from deep is so frustrating.


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And now that I look it up, Troy Daniels is actually shooting 50% from three.
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Post#282 » by DY_nasty » Thu Jan 28, 2016 6:18 pm

bws94 wrote:
Joest2003 wrote:
DY_nasty wrote:i'll never like troy in today's nba

especially on a team like this one... there's just no place for a guy that small who can't put the ball on the floor on a team anymore.


But just 2 days ago everyone on here was calling him our best shooter :lol: :lol: I was ridiculed when I mentioned that I want to see more consistency before I can say that. *cough cough fats cough cough*



He's a catch and shoot rhythm shooter opposed to one that can get shots the way Lamb does. He's the best jump shooter.

hes had one rhythm all year :lol:

i miss the old days of this forum. back when dante cunningham aka fake crash was putting up double doubles people knew that he was nothing but a scrub and carried on about their business. if we had a healthy roster then we wouldn't even recognize troy past being the dude that somehow got dell's number
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Post#283 » by BobsBuddy » Thu Jan 28, 2016 6:22 pm

:o :o Whew....That game stunk..Lamb or Daniels should be starting in my opinion..PJ's a backup swingman in this league. His defense is average at best. Lin is a combo guard and needs to come off bench. All that being said we are going to play poorly some nights against other Tier 2 NBA Teams like the Jazz,unless we trade PJ and get some defense and rebounding. :nonono: :nonono: :noway: :crazy:
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Re: GT: Hornets @ Jazz, Wed. Jan 27 9:00 PM EST 

Post#284 » by DY_nasty » Thu Jan 28, 2016 6:25 pm

MotorKeepsGoing wrote:Troy is the kind of catch and shoot player every team needs. If Troy got the open looks Marvin Williams and PJ Hairston get, he'd shoot 50% from deep on 5 or 6 attempts a game. Reason #1 why Marvin shooting 35% from deep and PJ shooting 31% from deep is so frustrating.


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And now that I look it up, Troy Daniels is actually shooting 50% from three.

There's a reason he can't get those looks though. He's terrible at getting open (has zero physicality, makes poor reads in our pnr offense) and defenses love shooters like him that are zero threat to put the ball down.

Back in 96 a guy like troy would've been dope. just sit in the corner and wait til someone forgets about you. cool. now? no offense is gonna handicap itself with a guy that small, that can't dribble, that can't get open, that can't create gravity
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Re: GT: Hornets @ Jazz, Wed. Jan 27 9:00 PM EST 

Post#285 » by HornetJail » Thu Jan 28, 2016 6:42 pm

DY_nasty wrote:
MotorKeepsGoing wrote:Troy is the kind of catch and shoot player every team needs. If Troy got the open looks Marvin Williams and PJ Hairston get, he'd shoot 50% from deep on 5 or 6 attempts a game. Reason #1 why Marvin shooting 35% from deep and PJ shooting 31% from deep is so frustrating.


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And now that I look it up, Troy Daniels is actually shooting 50% from three.

There's a reason he can't get those looks though. He's terrible at getting open (has zero physicality, makes poor reads in our pnr offense) and defenses love shooters like him that are zero threat to put the ball down.

Back in 96 a guy like troy would've been dope. just sit in the corner and wait til someone forgets about you. cool. now? no offense is gonna handicap itself with a guy that small, that can't dribble, that can't get open, that can't create gravity

Once he has the ball, yeah he's pretty useless unless he's shooting it, but if he can do more off the ball, he'll become a JJ Redick-lite player. If he can become as good as Anthony Tolliver at playing off the ball, he's set.
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Re: GT: Hornets @ Jazz, Wed. Jan 27 9:00 PM EST 

Post#286 » by Braggins » Thu Jan 28, 2016 6:50 pm

Troy's flavor of the month status didn't last long. Everyone should have kept their expectations in check. He is a really good spot up three point shooter but he literally has no other NBA skills and is undersized and soft. If his shot is on or the offense is flowing and getting him good looks he can be a contributor, but when he is cold or not getting spoon fed open looks he is a huge drag. Last night is a perfect example of why he isn't an every day NBA player under normal circumstances. I'm not bashing the guy. I like him for what he is, which is a 5th wing 3 point specialist, but next time he has a hot shooting night lets not act like hes moving up in the rotation or anything. When we do need him to play I don't mind him chucking three's because he is good at it and if he is in the game it means we are probably a little desperate anyways. Just enjoy him for what he is.
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Re: GT: Hornets @ Jazz, Wed. Jan 27 9:00 PM EST 

Post#287 » by DY_nasty » Thu Jan 28, 2016 7:03 pm

MotorKeepsGoing wrote:
DY_nasty wrote:
MotorKeepsGoing wrote:Troy is the kind of catch and shoot player every team needs. If Troy got the open looks Marvin Williams and PJ Hairston get, he'd shoot 50% from deep on 5 or 6 attempts a game. Reason #1 why Marvin shooting 35% from deep and PJ shooting 31% from deep is so frustrating.


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And now that I look it up, Troy Daniels is actually shooting 50% from three.

There's a reason he can't get those looks though. He's terrible at getting open (has zero physicality, makes poor reads in our pnr offense) and defenses love shooters like him that are zero threat to put the ball down.

Back in 96 a guy like troy would've been dope. just sit in the corner and wait til someone forgets about you. cool. now? no offense is gonna handicap itself with a guy that small, that can't dribble, that can't get open, that can't create gravity

Once he has the ball, yeah he's pretty useless unless he's shooting it, but if he can do more off the ball, he'll become a JJ Redick-lite player. If he can become as good as Anthony Tolliver at playing off the ball, he's set.

I don't know how you can float JJ Reddick-lite and Tolliver around in the same sort of thought and believe it makes any kind of sense to anyone reading
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Re: GT: Hornets @ Jazz, Wed. Jan 27 9:00 PM EST 

Post#288 » by bws94 » Thu Jan 28, 2016 8:17 pm

DY_nasty wrote:
MotorKeepsGoing wrote:Troy is the kind of catch and shoot player every team needs. If Troy got the open looks Marvin Williams and PJ Hairston get, he'd shoot 50% from deep on 5 or 6 attempts a game. Reason #1 why Marvin shooting 35% from deep and PJ shooting 31% from deep is so frustrating.


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And now that I look it up, Troy Daniels is actually shooting 50% from three.

There's a reason he can't get those looks though. He's terrible at getting open (has zero physicality, makes poor reads in our pnr offense) and defenses love shooters like him that are zero threat to put the ball down.

Back in 96 a guy like troy would've been dope. just sit in the corner and wait til someone forgets about you. cool. now? no offense is gonna handicap itself with a guy that small, that can't dribble, that can't get open, that can't create gravity


Yeah, plays have to be designed for Troy. He's not like Riddick who moves all over the place and then in the blink of an eye gets off the shot from off a screen. The screens have to be very deliberate to get Troy free. Now that they know he's a weapon, he's well covered.

I think Troy is best with Lin and good with Kemba. Due to the double teams they can create off of penetration, if they can get Troy's man off of him then they can get him shots as his release is very quick. Al may be another guy to get Troy shots by drawing doubles in the post when he gets back.
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Re: GT: Hornets @ Jazz, Wed. Jan 27 9:00 PM EST 

Post#289 » by Yit » Fri Jan 29, 2016 12:22 am

Tracking players performance (Game contribution points/their average):

Playing above their average:
Roberts (18/5), Hansbrough (6/4), Hawes (16/11)

Playing at their average:
Williams (18/18)

Playing below their average:
Walker (22/27), Lin (6/17), Batum (18/24), Daniels (2/4), Harrison (0/1), Hairston (6/9), Kaminsky (11/12)
Stability is a myth perpetuated by the agents called homeostasis and status quo....

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