Buddy Hield

[Cammo101]

I think people get too attached to labeling people by position. His main skill set is clearly that of a 2 but he has some point guard skills which is why I said he has the skills of a combo guard, you could throw him out there in some lineups at the 1. He has more point guard skills than Dunn has shooting guard skills in my opinion as well. Dunn is not a combo guard in my opinion.

Every SG in the NBA is a combo guard by this definition.

Position only matters to the extent that you can guard them.

[EMG518]

I think people get too attached to labeling people by position. His main skill set is clearly that of a 2 but he has some point guard skills which is why I said he has the skills of a combo guard, you could throw him out there in some lineups at the 1. He has more point guard skills than Dunn has shooting guard skills in my opinion as well. Dunn is not a combo guard in my opinion.

Position only matters to the extent that you can guard them. Every SG in the NBA is a combo guard by this definition.

Actually that is a false statement. Every shooting guard cannot guard a point guard, so by that definition every shooting guard is not a combo guard.

Yes you can play a position if you can guard it, I always have went by that, but that doesnt mean you possesses the skill set of a combo guard because you can guard the two positions, combo guards possess point guard and shooting guard skills, if you can merely guard the position, you arent a combo guard, you have to actually have those skills.

[Cammo101]

I think people get too attached to labeling people by position. His main skill set is clearly that of a 2 but he has some point guard skills which is why I said he has the skills of a combo guard, you could throw him out there in some lineups at the 1. He has more point guard skills than Dunn has shooting guard skills in my opinion as well. Dunn is not a combo guard in my opinion.

Position only matters to the extent that you can guard them. Every SG in the NBA is a combo guard by this definition.

Actually that is a false statement. Every shooting guard cannot guard a point guard, so by that definition every shooting guard is not a combo guard.

Yes you can play a position if you can guard it, I always have went by that, but that doesnt mean you possesses the skill set of a combo guard because you can guard the two positions, combo guards possess point guard and shooting guard skills, if you can merely guard the position, you arent a combo guard, you have to actually have those skills.

Those were two different statements I made. The first about positions, the second was talking about your definition of a combo guard, not what I said in the prior sentence. I edited my post for the sake of clarity.

[EMG518]

Position only matters to the extent that you can guard them. Every SG in the NBA is a combo guard by this definition.

Actually that is a false statement. Every shooting guard cannot guard a point guard, so by that definition every shooting guard is not a combo guard.

Yes you can play a position if you can guard it, I always have went by that, but that doesnt mean you possesses the skill set of a combo guard because you can guard the two positions, combo guards possess point guard and shooting guard skills, if you can merely guard the position, you arent a combo guard, you have to actually have those skills.

Those were two different statements I made. The first about positions, the second was talking about your definition of a combo guard, not what I said in the prior sentence. I edited my post for the sake of clarity.

I disagree with it just the same. All two guards do not possess sufficient skills to be called combo guards.

[TKainZero]

Have not seen him play
4 year player, didn't really stand out first 3
Percentages are ABSURD this year... (50/50/90)

Hope he can defend a bit, and if he can, he will have a place in the NBA for sure as a 3&D guard. Looks bigger than the 6-4 he is listed at in the highlights. Even if he cannot defend, could be a Morrow type shooter.

[Ruzious]

Redick is much more quicker than Buddy is, Buddy has been shooting out of his mind, but he has never showed this level before this season, whereas JJ was tremendous since his freshmen year (over 40% from 3 all along), Buddy is not a bad athlete, but he is average, he is not nearly as quick as he will need to be with his lack of size (about 6'4 in shoes), plus he will be 23 this year.

Hield will be a 22 year old rookie - which is perfectly fine considering he's a 4 year player. It doesn't matter whether or not he's a great athlete. It matters how quickly he's able to get his shot off, can he react and anticipate before his opponent, is he consistently excellent in the fundamentals. These are things that set apart the top guards from the rest. They act and react quicker - no necessarily because of physical gifts.

You are correct about the stats between Hield and Redick, but there's a big but involved. None of JJ's 4 years compares to Hield's senior season. JJ just developed quicker. But Heild's shooting 52.3 on his 3's while JJ shot a career best 42.1. I agree to be a bit cautious because he's never done that before, but that's so good that even if he falls off some, he'll still be quite good.

JJ's not particularly quick. He's just a natural shooter who worked really hard at his craft. If anything Hield is a better athlete and more physically gifted with size, strength and length. Watching Hield play, you see a guy who plays with a little more energy and awareness than most other players. Same thing with Bobby Portis last year. I think that - along with skill-levels - is going to allow him to contribute as a rookie - while other rookies have the typical deer in the headlights look.

I'm guessing somewhere right near the middle of the first round. He'll go down because he's a 4 year guy, but he'll go up because he's a guy who can contribute as a rookie.

[Ruzious]

Have not seen him play
4 year player, didn't really stand out first 3
Percentages are ABSURD this year... (50/50/90)

Hope he can defend a bit, and if he can, he will have a place in the NBA for sure as a 3&D guard. Looks bigger than the 6-4 he is listed at in the highlights. Even if he cannot defend, could be a Morrow type shooter.

I also noticed that about the height. He's listed at 6'4.5 and 215 lbs with a 6'8.5 wingspan while Denzell Valentine is listed at 6'6 220 with a 6'10 wingspan. And looking at them, I'd have guessed Hield's at least as big.

[Cammo101]

Have not seen him play
4 year player, didn't really stand out first 3
Percentages are ABSURD this year... (50/50/90)

Hope he can defend a bit, and if he can, he will have a place in the NBA for sure as a 3&D guard. Looks bigger than the 6-4 he is listed at in the highlights. Even if he cannot defend, could be a Morrow type shooter.

He was Big 12 POY and a 3rd Team All American last year...he stood out before this year.

[TKainZero]

Have not seen him play
4 year player, didn't really stand out first 3
Percentages are ABSURD this year... (50/50/90)

Hope he can defend a bit, and if he can, he will have a place in the NBA for sure as a 3&D guard. Looks bigger than the 6-4 he is listed at in the highlights. Even if he cannot defend, could be a Morrow type shooter.

I also noticed that about the height. He's listed at 6'4.5 and 215 lbs with a 6'8.5 wingspan while Denzell Valentine is listed at 6'6 220 with a 6'10 wingspan. And looking at them, I'd have guessed Hield's at least as big.

Maybe he has grown since he was last officially measured.

[doordoor123]

SGs generally have a low IQ (why there are so few good ones) because they generally have to only do a few things on the court. I think his IQ is pretty heavily underrated. I haven't seen many guys at the position that have such a high IQ and improve every year. Meeks has always been a player that needs to catch fire, but Hield scores with control. He knows how to hit open jumpers and knows when to attack the basket. I think he's going to be really good.

[No-Man]

Hield has 0 PG skills, he is not a combo guard, Baldwin is a comboguard

[Cammo101]

Hield has 0 PG skills, he is not a combo guard, Baldwin is a comboguard

Yep.

[PickMeUpASixer]

I look at Buddy and I see a solid physical profile and lights out college 3PT shooting. He is destined to cause some hairpulling after the draft. By that I mean either:

Some lottery team will take him too early and fans will expect him to be a go-to scorer and he will fall well short of their expectations. He's not a great creator for himself or others, he finishes plays with catch-and-shoot jumpers, or attacking closeouts.

or

He will wall to an established team, where he can slide into his natural 3&D role, spotting up around some stars offense, and tirelessly chasing the opponents perimeter shooter/scorers around, and everyone who passed on him will see an efficient and valuable piece and think "why didn't we get him?"

[MalonesElbows]

Redick is much more quicker than Buddy is, Buddy has been shooting out of his mind, but he has never showed this level before this season, whereas JJ was tremendous since his freshmen year (over 40% from 3 all along), Buddy is not a bad athlete, but he is average, he is not nearly as quick as he will need to be with his lack of size (about 6'4 in shoes), plus he will be 23 this year.

His wingspan dwarfs Reddick's by 5 inches. Let's not act like that's not important. Reddick is quick because he's tiny at 190 lbs. Hield is already 215 and will end up around 220. If you follow the NBA and the draft, you know this stuff matters.

[Duke4life831]

Hield has 0 PG skills, he is not a combo guard, Baldwin is a comboguard

Agreed. The fact is if Hield had PG skills he wouldnt be playing in college this year. He would already be playing in the NBA. His handle is questionable and he doesnt have the first step or overall athleticism to get to the rim in the NBA. Now I brought up JJ because of the role he plays. All off the ball and basically just a catch and shoot player. I actually really like the Wayne Ellington comparison. The main thing with Hield is he doesnt have the athleticism or ball handling to create his own on the next level. If he tries to put the ball down and drive he will get picked or get stopped the majority of the time. Hes going to be a good spot up shooter in the league and not much more

[Old Man Game]

I think Hield's a specialist in the NBA. The handle just isn't there. Won't be able to get to the rim. Won't be able to pull up off the dribble. The release on the shot is also low key slow. (Smooth as all get out though.) I think he's in for a rude awakening when he's seeing NBA defenders on a nightly basis.

But sure if Hield can just spot up he can be a very valuable role player.

[Ruzious]

I think Hield's a specialist in the NBA. The handle just isn't there. Won't be able to get to the rim. Won't be able to pull up off the dribble. The release on the shot is also low key slow. (Smooth as all get out though.) I think he's in for a rude awakening when he's seeing NBA defenders on a nightly basis.

But sure if Hield can just spot up he can be a very valuable role player.

I don't think his release will be a problem because he gets into his shooting motion so quickly. He's set to shoot when he receives the ball.

[jangles86]

Hield could easily go top 5

[Illmatic12]

I would not take Hield in the top 5. Maybe just outside it, but it'd be hard to overlook Simmons, Ingram, Dunn, Rabb, Brown, (Bender) to take a smallish combo guard.

We've seen guys like Acie Law who didn't pan out to much. Not saying Hield will be out of the league, but I don't see him being a star level player at the next level, he's a 4yr player and hasn't developed sufficient ballhandling and PG skills to really translate.

[TKainZero]

Hield could easily go top 5

Who was the last college SENIOR to go top 5?

Late lotto area... I could see a team go a bit higher to fill a need.