1/28 Atlanta at Indiana

[Jamaaliver]

At the end of the day, that 33-2 run might end up being the biggest curse on this franchise, because all its done is given us a false sense of hope. Not the fans, I'm talking about the actual decision makers who are about to lock in long term with this core.

We need a legit superstar and I doubt we get one by free agency or trade. He'll need to be drafted.
It's just a bad time at the present time and Teague possibly be moved will continue to not help things. I do support moving him.

Last summer, we had the flexibility and ammunition to go in any direction we wanted. That was the time for our move.

Teague and #15 was a great bargaining chip to offer in trade.

Six months later, seems like we have much fewer options.

How did they not see this coming?



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[PandaKidd]

What Ive heard about Whitside makes me so no thanks.

[ATL Boy]

The only way I'd advocate not pressing the reset button would be if we got Hassan Whiteside. I'd LOVE to get him on our team: he's an exceptional rebounder and rim protector (would have to work on that jumper though), but I don't think he chooses to come here. I'd trade Horford for him right now for his bird rights.

There's also Dwight, but he's just a headache.

If you think Dwight is a headache....Whiteside is worse.


It's my understanding MIA is fed up with his antics and behavior. He can fill a box score, but he neglects to do simple things like rotating on defense, proper screens, moving the ball in an offense.

He is the anti-Horford...and I mean that in the absolute worse way. Think Josh Smith at his worse. And if Pat Riley, Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosh (Two Hall of Famers and a perennial All Star) can't control/inspire/influence him...I'm not sure anyone here will.

If he is infuriating to THOSE guys in a contract year, he'll only be worse once he has his millions.



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Whiteside will at least keep his athleticism throughout the entire contract (or at least until he becomes an expiring). At this point, I'm so infuriated at our lack of rebounding, and the fact that we haven't had a legit game-changing Center since Dikembe, that I'll try anything.

[CoachD]

On paper, with the talent the Hawks have - it seems ridiculous that they get beat up on the boards.

Aside from that .... last night's game and the one against the Clips ... I couldn't believe how terrible the decision making was over the last 5 min of the 4th.

Coach Bud must be taking a beating from the ATL faithful.

From COY to head scratcher.

[Jamaaliver]

Few thoughts regarding last night's game:

Tiago didn't look completely useless out there in extended minutes. Makes me hopeful that he could man a starting role at 25+ minutes adequately well...just like he did for years in SAS.

I can't help but wonder if Indiana's current makeup and strategy is influenced a bit by what we did last year. Embracing a smaller lineup, spacing the floor. Scorers at multiple positions (instead of PG having to do it all).

I stated in summer 2014 that the basketball gods were forcing Indy to re-invent themselves. I maintain that year off was a necessary step in them adjusting for the modern NBA.

Impressive that Indy scored more three pointers than us on barely half as many attempts. They weren't just chucking them up as we've become accustomed to doing so often.

Mike Scott and K Korver had a combined 13 3-pt attempts. The entire Indy team only attempted 15 the entire game.

Indy also got to the FT line more often and dominated the boards. That's a sign of a well coached team. Fundamental basketball strategy. Attack the paint, control the boards, hit open jumpers.

I can't help but wonder if the speculation surrounding Teague has effected this close knit group a bit. And the sudden losing streak only adds to the dark clouds hanging over the team.

[PandaKidd]

Watch the games, i know i say that a lot, but, they dont change their strategy at all. They are bombing from 3 point range but they DONT have the talent to keep doing it. There was 5-6 BAD 3 pt attempts in a quarter. Where they get close, they throw up a 3 , it gets rebounded for a fast break the other way and it becomes and AND 1 or something and it just puts you in a bad spot. Theres SO MANY 5 pt swings with this team.

The defense isnt as good
What are the TEAM 3pt ATTEMPTS? Compared to last year? It just seems to me like they are shooting WAY MORE from 3pt this year.
Theres no attempt to go to the basket.
AH gets outworked every night.
We keep trotting out Korver when hes cold and still encouraging him to shoot, Thabo just looks wasted. Hes out there for Defense, but the rest of the team doesnt defend well so whats the point?

[PandaKidd]

TURNER BURNED US. A ROOKIE.

http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nba/pacers/2016/01/28/pacers-turn-myles-turner-who-helps-end-losing-streak/78870192/

he is doing what AL should be doing, Pump faking, driving to the basket, shooting the midrange jumper.

[Jamaaliver]

On paper, with the talent the Hawks have - it seems ridiculous that they get beat up on the boards.

Agreed. We've changed (improved) the personnel in light of our rebounding issues last post-season, and we're somehow worse off now.

It's very possibly a scheme issue that needs to be revised during the All Star break.

I couldn't believe how terrible the decision making was over the last 5 min of the 4th.Coach Bud must be taking a beating from the ATL faithful. From COY to head scratcher.

Headscratcher indeed.

And don't get me wrong. We love Coach Bud. But he clearly is more devoted to adjusting personnel to his preferred scheme over adjusting his scheme to his actual personnel. We've tossed away so many first round picks and embraced fringe NBAers who fit the mold but have limited ceilings. We've converted our All Star Center into a stretch 5 with withering production/efficiency.

There's enough blame to go around. But Coach Bud definitely needs to reconsider how he's utilizing this group.

With three of the best Big Men in the Eastern conference, plus a bruising 7'3" prospect in tow...we should be bullying teams in the paint every game. Not getting into a three point contest and trying to out finesse opponents.

[ATL Boy]

Watch the games, i know i say that a lot, but, they dont change their strategy at all. They are bombing from 3 point range but they DONT have the talent to keep doing it. There was 5-6 BAD 3 pt attempts in a quarter. Where they get close, they throw up a 3 , it gets rebounded for a fast break the other way and it becomes and AND 1 or something and it just puts you in a bad spot. Theres SO MANY 5 pt swings with this team.

I remember our second game played in Boston this year, where we were within arms reach all night but our 3 just wasn't falling.

In the second half of that game, we attacked the paint relentlessly, drew fouls, got easy points at the rim and blew ahead of the Celtics in points. I have no idea why Bud doesn't stress that more often, because it really is frustrating watching these guys just chuck 3s.


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[New_Hawks_Era]

Watch the games, i know i say that a lot, but, they dont change their strategy at all. They are bombing from 3 point range but they DONT have the talent to keep doing it. There was 5-6 BAD 3 pt attempts in a quarter. Where they get close, they throw up a 3 , it gets rebounded for a fast break the other way and it becomes and AND 1 or something and it just puts you in a bad spot. Theres SO MANY 5 pt swings with this team.

The defense isnt as good
What are the TEAM 3pt ATTEMPTS? Compared to last year? It just seems to me like they are shooting WAY MORE from 3pt this year.
Theres no attempt to go to the basket.
AH gets outworked every night.
We keep trotting out Korver when hes cold and still encouraging him to shoot, Thabo just looks wasted. Hes out there for Defense, but the rest of the team doesnt defend well so whats the point?

I don't think we're shooting an extra ordinate amount of three's compared to last year. We're just not making as many so it looks worse. It's maybe 4 or 5 teams that shoot more three's. By comparison only 3 teams shoot less fts than us. 1 being the mighty Spurs but the Spurs don't rely on the 3 ball even close to as much as us.Horford has shot more three's this year than his other 8 years combined. Cousins in Sactown is the only other 5 I can think of who shoots the 3 like Al.

I do believe that Millsap, Horford, Splitter and Taveras could be a lot more effective this year and we would benefit more than last year's team if they would concentrate on paint points more. This is not last year's team but they seem to want to play like it is. Coach Bud should have realized this and made the necessary changes. This team imo would be better off for it. But now they just look like a bootleg/counterfeit version of last year's team.