Kings @ Pelicans | Jan 28, 2016

[Kings2013]

The bench this year

I'm not going to repeat my feeling on Beli/Collison

Koufos has not been good either

Supposed to be a strength..

[Nicky Nix Nook]

This is the worst game I've seen them play this season. Unbelievable.

[Kings2013]

Game over, and with that I'm probably going to take a much needed breather from the team, maybe just a few games. I care too much, as y'all can probably tell. It's just s game

Momentum gone, it'll be tough for the 8 seed, but the step this year is to compete, and I hope we accomplish. Wholesale changes in the summer, including a new staff IMO

[Nicky Nix Nook]

We could very easily lose 2/3 of the next three games after this L which would make us 1-5 since our 5 game win streak.

Go Kings.

[PaKwAn]

the kings do suck! you can't make excuses when you are playing against a team that's missing 3 good players. .. this is almost as bad as the philly game

[Javidad]

I am really growing tired of Karl taking out Ben every time he scores a couple baskets in a row. I swear Karl goes hmm he seems to be confident driving to the basket and scoring. Lets bench him.

[SacKingZZZ]

Doug Christie laying it down in the post game, talking about playing off of Cousins and using him to create shots for others. Amen DC, amen.

[SacKingZZZ]

One positive is certainly Ben stepping up. You know, it's not like it's so much a light bulb going off over his head, but a green light going off in front of him. It's like he finally goes, "You mean I can score?". He has the tools to do that every game. I'm not sure if he can do it on this team however.

[SacKingZZZ]

The Kings don't suck, they just have a bunch of average players to go along with Rondo and Cousins tonight. Baby steps.

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Eh, so do a bunch of teams. That roster is beyond some of the teams that they are competing with, no question. I'm not so sure about the make up of the team. With the kind of defensive sets they run I just can't see them even being passable with the players they have defensively and unfortunately it STARTS with Rondo. Karls idea of personal accountability will only be solved by personal ability and Rondo is hardly a ball stopper up front. If Rondo and Cuz are the tandem of the future they will have to find all world defenders to sandwich them with to even be average on that end.

[Kings2013]

To me it's not a talent issue if we don't make it, which is why I'm not down on the long term view. Cousins/WCS can grow into a dominant front court. Hopefully we can re-sign Rondo. Casspi is solid. Koufos is still a good back up big despite this year. Acy has gotten better, hopefully Ben improves

I think we are going to have a different coaching staff next year for a variety of reasons. We're not getting Thibs who can choose his next job, but even a Scotty a Brooks or what have you. A new staff can breathe a new life into a team

That in combination with in growth and I still think we can move forward

[Nicky Nix Nook]

To me it's not a talent issue if we don't make it, which is why I'm not down on the long term view. Cousins/WCS can grow into a dominant front court. Hopefully we can re-sign Rondo. Casspi is solid. Koufos is still a good back up big despite this year. Acy has gotten better, hopefully Ben improves

I think we are going to have a different coaching staff next year for a variety of reasons. We're not getting Thibs who can choose his next job, but even a Scotty a Brooks or what have you. A new staff can breathe a new life into a team

That in combination with in growth and I still think we can move forward

Dear god not Scott Brooks.


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[bleeds_purple]

The Kings don't suck, they just have a bunch of average players to go along with Rondo and Cousins tonight. Baby steps.

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Eh, so do a bunch of teams. That roster is beyond some of the teams that they are competing with, no question. I'm not so sure about the make up of the team. With the kind of defensive sets they run I just can't see them even being passable with the players they have defensively and unfortunately it STARTS with Rondo. Karls idea of personal accountability will only be solved by personal ability and Rondo is hardly a ball stopper up front. If Rondo and Cuz are the tandem of the future they will have to find all world defenders to sandwich them with to even be average on that end.

It starts with Rondo and it ends with the fact that 1-3, regardless of who's in the game, we simply cannot guard the perimeter. It was a freaking layup drill out there tonight. I don't know if its lack of effort, coaching strategy, or just plain lack of ability on behalf of the players to stay in front of their man but something has to change with our defense up front.

We basically rely on Cousins to dominate the entire game and single handedly control the tempo. And if he falls anything short of that we get nights like tonight. Cousins deserves his fair share of the blame for tonight as well. He didn't take quality shots at any point in the game and instead kept rushing up wild attempts. No post play from either.

[KF10]

The Kings got wrecked by this starting 5 by the Pelicans:



No Anthony Davis, no Tyreke Evans and no Eric Gordon.

[KF10]

One positive is certainly Ben stepping up. You know, it's not like it's so much a light bulb going off over his head, but a green light going off in front of him. It's like he finally goes, "You mean I can score?". He has the tools to do that every game. I'm not sure if he can do it on this team however.

He was up against a 10 day contract/d-leaguer level player. A guy like Jimmer can look good against those type of players

[KF10]

Keep Cousins, WCS, Casspi and re-sign Rondo. Maybe keep Acy, Koufos and Seth too.

Trade everyone else.

[SacKingZZZ]

The Kings don't suck, they just have a bunch of average players to go along with Rondo and Cousins tonight. Baby steps.

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Eh, so do a bunch of teams. That roster is beyond some of the teams that they are competing with, no question. I'm not so sure about the make up of the team. With the kind of defensive sets they run I just can't see them even being passable with the players they have defensively and unfortunately it STARTS with Rondo. Karls idea of personal accountability will only be solved by personal ability and Rondo is hardly a ball stopper up front. If Rondo and Cuz are the tandem of the future they will have to find all world defenders to sandwich them with to even be average on that end.

It starts with Rondo and it ends with the fact that 1-3, regardless of who's in the game, we simply cannot guard the perimeter. It was a freaking layup drill out there tonight. I don't know if its lack of effort, coaching strategy, or just plain lack of ability on behalf of the players to stay in front of their man but something has to change with our defense up front.

We basically rely on Cousins to dominate the entire game and single handedly control the tempo. And if he falls anything short of that we get nights like tonight. Cousins deserves his fair share of the blame for tonight as well. He didn't take quality shots at any point in the game and instead kept rushing up wild attempts. No post play from either.

It's a combination of all of those things. The personnel isn't there, they aren't terrible or anything but depending on the sets they run they just can't get it done. This team stands a chance when they switch, but they like to trot out 3 guard lineups which is just putting you in a really bad position when doing so against any team with size at SG/SF. Now they've seemed to change it up and they are sagging off the pick and rolls and letting the guards up front fight over the screen, or go under. That's just leading to any open mid-range shot the opposing team chooses.

The biggest problem right now that they face almost every night is a lack of size at PG/SG. Even Ben, who is probably a bit below average size/length wise for a SG is often matched up against bigger players. Collison plays pretty good defense, but there is nothing he can do when playing against someone who can just draw up and shoot right over him. They've had most success defensively when they attack the ball handler or play passing lanes with Rondo and Collison. The issue is that when they don't get a steal it puts the rest of the defense out of position and it's usually Cuz left to clean up the mess and recently it's left him way out of position on the boards as well. Not to mention picking up ticky tack fouls while attacking a ball handler. It's just too gimmicky to rely on as the crux of your defensive identity. If this were the 90's era it might work because they let a lot more hand played defense go but nowadays if you sneeze on the player you're defending it's a flagrant 2.

The only alternative is to ask the bigs to hedge out and create contact on screens. That's a hard thing to ask though with the way they rely on Cuz on the other end. This team isn't nearly physical enough and it really should be one of the more physical teams out there. That's why I like Acy getting more minutes. He brings a rough edge to the court and when he's played it spreads to his teammates.

[SacKingZZZ]

One positive is certainly Ben stepping up. You know, it's not like it's so much a light bulb going off over his head, but a green light going off in front of him. It's like he finally goes, "You mean I can score?". He has the tools to do that every game. I'm not sure if he can do it on this team however.

He was up against a 10 day contract/d-leaguer level player. A guy like Jimmer can look good against those type of players

Point taken but nah, Ben deserves a pat on the back for this game. Ben has seriously grown as a player. When his confidence is going and he has that green light due to the lack of another shot muncher he shows that he's got the tools to do pretty much anything. I'm still blown away by his ball handling sometimes. I never thought he'd get it this dialed in. Not saying he's Steph Curry Jr. but I'd list his ball handling as a legit positive most games at this point.

[KF10]

One positive is certainly Ben stepping up. You know, it's not like it's so much a light bulb going off over his head, but a green light going off in front of him. It's like he finally goes, "You mean I can score?". He has the tools to do that every game. I'm not sure if he can do it on this team however.

He was up against a 10 day contract/d-leaguer level player. A guy like Jimmer can look good against those type of players

Point taken but nah, Ben deserves a pat on the back for this game. Ben has seriously grown as a player. When his confidence is going and he has that green light due to the lack of another shot muncher he shows that he's got the tools to do pretty much anything. I'm still blown away by his ball handling sometimes. I never thought he'd get it this dialed in. Not saying he's Steph Curry Jr. but I'd list his ball handling as a legit positive most games at this point.

I love the confident/aggressive version of Ben but that is far few in between. Yes, Ben has made a giant leap from his poop rookie season in the NBA and right now. Although, after his 2nd year, I thought he would have a bigger leap than expected. I get it. He is relatively young and can become something good in the future but we need reliable SG contribution RIGHT NOW. Ben does not provide that on a consistent basis. Honestly, the guy is too nice to step on people's toes and doesn't want to interfere with the big guns in this team. What they said about him in college still holds true. The guy has incredible physical (athletic) tools but what about his mental approach of the game? He doesn't demands the ball, routinely passes up open shots, etc. He is often quiet in most games. Doesn't do enough peripheral things to justify his on-court stints when he does nothing on the offensive end. He is incredibly frustrating to watch.