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Re: Trade Idea Thread 15-16 

Post#301 » by bleeds_purple » Thu Jan 28, 2016 11:10 pm

blind prophet wrote:Depending on what happens with Mozgov in Cleveland, how do you guys feel about a Ben and KK swap for Shumpert?


TBH I don't like it for either team. Cleveland has no use for Koufos as they are already overloaded upfront and given their mandate to win now Shumpert is better than Ben this season.

Conversely, while we are trying to make the playoffs this year I think we need more playmaking and scoring out of the SG spot and over the long haul Ben has a higher, albeit low, probability of being that guy than Shumpert who is a career bench player.

I'd love a guy like Shump but in place of JA or Belly, not as a starter.
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Re: Trade Idea Thread 15-16 

Post#302 » by dozencousins » Thu Jan 28, 2016 11:12 pm

Player we are not trading barring being told directly they wanted to be traded or a very unforeseen situation
Cousins , Rajon & WCS

Players we are likely keeping but could be had with the right deal

Mac , Curry , Casspi ,Acy , Koufas , Collison . Moreland , Dukan

Players whom we very well could trade

Gay , Bell , Anderson , Butler ,
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Post#303 » by bleeds_purple » Thu Jan 28, 2016 11:13 pm

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Andrew McCeltic wrote:Jae's stock is extremely high right now, he's been thrown around as a core piece for a Kevin Love trade in media discussion and our board's fans have been hesitant about that.


If that's true the Celtics better close the deal. That's unreal value for him ...

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Thing is the wing player is en vogue right now under the current meta game. No one wants to part with their wings. Instead, everyone is looking for that two-way three point shooter that can guard multiple positions. Its a supply and demand thing.

I have to agree there's no way we can get Crowder unless we are talking a Cousins trade. And let's not go there.
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Post#304 » by Kings2013 » Fri Jan 29, 2016 12:48 am

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Andrew McCeltic wrote:Jae's stock is extremely high right now, he's been thrown around as a core piece for a Kevin Love trade in media discussion and our board's fans have been hesitant about that.


If that's true the Celtics better close the deal. That's unreal value for him ...

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Thing is the wing player is en vogue right now under the current meta game. No one wants to part with their wings. Instead, everyone is looking for that two-way three point shooter that can guard multiple positions. Its a supply and demand thing.

I have to agree there's no way we can get Crowder unless we are talking a Cousins trade. And let's not go there.


He's redundant enough with Omri IMO, who IMO is playing comparably well, although Jae might have more defensive versatility while Omri excels at other parts over Jae. I can think of other pieces than Cousins I wouldn't give up for Crowder
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Re: Trade Idea Thread 15-16 

Post#305 » by WarriorsLakers » Fri Jan 29, 2016 6:49 am

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dozencousins wrote:Don't want to burst anyone's bubbles but we are not trading for any of
Mozgov , Shumpert or Bradley

100% certain of both Cavs players Kings don't have any desire for them . Bradley Kings like a bit but as long as we have both Rajon & Darren that is 100% out & still likely out for now at least even if we only had one of .


I know this is Kings forum but u hearing anything from the lakers side? would love to trade lou, n young, hibbert and bass



From what I know Kings had some interest last year in Hibbert however Kings don't have much interest in any of those 4 players you mentioned . For us t o take any 1 of those 4 that means we would have to get a sweetener in the deal.


thanks man. appreciate it. hope we clear the salary of n young and Lou
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Re: Trade Idea Thread 15-16 

Post#306 » by City of Trees » Fri Jan 29, 2016 7:01 am

I proposed a salary dump trade on the T&T board.

Collison and Belli to Houston for Lawson (exp) and McDaniels.


Also someone brought up Belli for OJ Mayo swap. I'd do that in a heartbeat


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Re: Trade Idea Thread 15-16 

Post#307 » by bleeds_purple » Fri Jan 29, 2016 7:48 am

I wonder if we can get Bradley for Collison and Bellineli.

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Post#308 » by City of Trees » Fri Jan 29, 2016 7:51 am

bleeds_purple wrote:I wonder if we can get Bradley for Collison and Bellineli.

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I wouldn't trade Bradley for those two.

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Re: Trade Idea Thread 15-16 

Post#309 » by Jkam31 » Fri Jan 29, 2016 9:06 am

bleeds_purple wrote:I wonder if we can get Bradley for Collison and Bellineli.

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Post#310 » by SacKingZZZ » Fri Jan 29, 2016 9:54 am

Karl needs a wing that can defend, handle, and shoot. Would the Bucks consider this type of deal?

Kings trade: Rudy Gay, Ben McLemore, Kosta Koufos

Bucks trade: Khris Middleton, John Henson, Miles Plumlee, 2nd round pick
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Post#311 » by PaKwAn » Fri Jan 29, 2016 5:37 pm

bucks would definitely pass..Middleton has way more value than gay right now..plus the Bucks have jabari and Giannis to play the 3/4 spot..while Middleton plays the 2 guard for them..
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Post#312 » by Kings2013 » Fri Jan 29, 2016 7:38 pm

SacKingZZZ wrote:Karl needs a wing that can defend, handle, and shoot. Would the Bucks consider this type of deal?

Kings trade: Rudy Gay, Ben McLemore, Kosta Koufos

Bucks trade: Khris Middleton, John Henson, Miles Plumlee, 2nd round pick


I don't think Karl's needs will be factored into major personnel decisions, lol, as his days our numbered, but I love me some Middleton as well. Henson I think is considered bad money now
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Re: Trade Idea Thread 15-16 

Post#313 » by SacKingZZZ » Fri Jan 29, 2016 10:36 pm

PaKwAn wrote:bucks would definitely pass..Middleton has way more value than gay right now..plus the Bucks have jabari and Giannis to play the 3/4 spot..while Middleton plays the 2 guard for them..



I look at it this way though, they get a legit C to fill in for Monroe if they decide to move him and they get rid of the abomination of a contract coming to John Henson. I think Henson would fit the Kings as a 3rd big much better as well. Then there is Ben. Once Ben goes to a team where he can finally get the ball and score the deal might just look pretty rotten for the Kings in the end. The Bucks aren't going anywhere right now and in looking at that roster Gay comes in and is probably right away their best scorer. You put Parker on the bench (he hasn't live up to his hype at all) and they have a pretty talented lineup to move forward with. Middleton isn't anyones star or main building piece. Not by a long shot.
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Re: Trade Idea Thread 15-16 

Post#314 » by SacKingZZZ » Fri Jan 29, 2016 10:37 pm

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SacKingZZZ wrote:Karl needs a wing that can defend, handle, and shoot. Would the Bucks consider this type of deal?

Kings trade: Rudy Gay, Ben McLemore, Kosta Koufos

Bucks trade: Khris Middleton, John Henson, Miles Plumlee, 2nd round pick


I don't think Karl's needs will be factored into major personnel decisions, lol, as his days our numbered, but I love me some Middleton as well. Henson I think is considered bad money now



Well, a defensively capable SG with size is important regardless of the coach if they are going to keep Rondo at PG moving forward.
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Re: Trade Idea Thread 15-16 

Post#315 » by dozencousins » Sat Jan 30, 2016 12:09 am

I find it amazing that a site like hoopshype.com today is reporting that the Kings have been getting calls to trade both Gay & Marco something I mentioned 4 weeks ago on this board .Jan 1st on this thread . They are way behind the game of reporting as of late .

Anyways alot of playoff contenders calling about Marco not to mention both playoff & none play off contenders calling about Gay .

As of the moment teams we are most likely to trade with are : BULLS , N.O. , BOS , CLIPPERS , MEM
LAKERS are a real possibility as they are wanting GAY as well . I know that though a trade between us & the Lakers are more doubtful than others since both organizations kind of hate each other. LAKERS called us about GAY and KINGS had made it clear that if we trade GAY their we are going to get at least 1 of a future #1 pick , Russell or Clarkson . My source just told me the LAKERS recently offered us a deal of RUSSELL & HIBBERT for GAY , KOUFAS & BUTLER offered that deal to us Kings are considering it . If it was me I would do it & do it now . This was offered today .
I am not saying it will happen guys at all . You want to know info well here you go .
Kings have fielded many teams call today a lot is brewing . No guarantees but we will see what happens now .

Russell is pissing off coach B.Scott and their is a lot of problems with him in the Lakers organization & they are already willing to rid themselves of Russell
Kings are quit a bit concerned about Russell now themselves we will see .
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Re: Trade Idea Thread 15-16 

Post#316 » by Kings2013 » Sat Jan 30, 2016 1:48 am

I don't know who could have an interest in Belinelli but I'm glad the FO is trying if that rumor originated for the purpose of moving him

It is feasible he could return closer to his career mean with a better fit somewhere else. God I hope the rumor is true
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Re: Trade Idea Thread 15-16 

Post#317 » by WarriorsLakers » Sat Jan 30, 2016 3:23 am

dozencousins wrote:I find it amazing that a site like hoopshype.com today is reporting that the Kings have been getting calls to trade both Gay & Marco something I mentioned 4 weeks ago on this board .Jan 1st on this thread . They are way behind the game of reporting as of late .

Anyways alot of playoff contenders calling about Marco not to mention both playoff & none play off contenders calling about Gay .

As of the moment teams we are most likely to trade with are : BULLS , N.O. , BOS , CLIPPERS , MEM
LAKERS are a real possibility as they are wanting GAY as well . I know that though a trade between us & the Lakers are more doubtful than others since both organizations kind of hate each other. LAKERS called us about GAY and KINGS had made it clear that if we trade GAY their we are going to get at least 1 of a future #1 pick , Russell or Clarkson . My source just told me the LAKERS recently offered us a deal of RUSSELL & HIBBERT for GAY , KOUFAS & BUTLER offered that deal to us Kings are considering it . If it was me I would do it & do it now . This was offered today .
I am not saying it will happen guys at all . You want to know info well here you go .
Kings have fielded many teams call today a lot is brewing . No guarantees but we will see what happens now .

Russell is pissing off coach B.Scott and their is a lot of problems with him in the Lakers organization & they are already willing to rid themselves of Russell
Kings are quit a bit concerned about Russell now themselves we will see .


thanks Bro. I think from Russell side, u have to try him with another coach thats not playing 80's offense and doesnt practice any defense.

if we have to trade him I will wait till the draft and then trade him. u cant give up on a guy after couple of months, specially not the 2nd pick

would u guys be ok with Lou, Bass, future 1st for gay/moreland?
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Re: Trade Idea Thread 15-16 

Post#318 » by Andrew McCeltic » Sat Jan 30, 2016 3:44 am

Are you kidding me? Russell/Hibbert for Gay/Koufos? Kings have to do that trade, Jesus
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Post#319 » by City of Trees » Sat Jan 30, 2016 5:43 am

Andrew McCeltic wrote:Are you kidding me? Russell/Hibbert for Gay/Koufos? Kings have to do that trade, Jesus

Right !

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Re: Trade Idea Thread 15-16 

Post#320 » by Jkam31 » Sat Jan 30, 2016 5:55 am

Andrew McCeltic wrote:Are you kidding me? Russell/Hibbert for Gay/Koufos? Kings have to do that trade, Jesus


If the was truley offered how the hell is it not done yet. Russell is the real deal with a dumbass coach and the likes of Kobe/Lue Will. Hibbert can get 10-15mpg backing up DMC.

Also Hibbert is expiring so we are clearing 14mill. We can than offer a contract to a guy like Batumor Barnes.

Rondo
Russell
Barnes
WCS
DMC


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