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ATTL wrote:bwgood77 wrote:ATTL wrote:LSU playing on ESPN right now.
Thanks....time to watch me some live Simmons...haven't done that yet.
Low tier college game's are rough to watch. There's been a lot of bad passing and shooting this game
bwgood77 wrote:ATTL wrote:bwgood77 wrote:
Wow, that's impressive...as for your other point about college games being tough to watch, yeah, it's tough for me to get engaged in any game that isn't a Cats game or tourney game.
Outside of Bentil, the rest of his teammates shot 6/35.
This is apparently Dunn's second game of at least 15/7/7/7 this year.
If archie keeps up his current play taking Dunn may be a bit much. I'd still take Dunn depending on where we pick and who is available.
Man, looking at Dunn's progression from year to year, and seeing multi year guards like Curry and Lillard and even McCollumn do so well, he looks super impressive. I mean, his 3 pt % impressive from last year to this year is good, and those assists and steal numbers are phenomenal for college.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/61804/kris-dunn
I'd be super happy with Bledsoe being backed up by Dunn. But I guess I'd only probably take him at 3 or probably 4.
AtheJ415 wrote:Twuan89 wrote:How long will it take for the Phoenix Suns to be championship contenders again?
My guess is 4 years. But I think if we continue to draft well we can maybe sneak into the playoffs 2 years from now, which would be mighty impressive given the age of the team at that point (assuming we don't keep Tyson, Kieff, Tucker).
saintEscaton wrote:AtheJ415 wrote:Twuan89 wrote:How long will it take for the Phoenix Suns to be championship contenders again?
My guess is 4 years. But I think if we continue to draft well we can maybe sneak into the playoffs 2 years from now, which would be mighty impressive given the age of the team at that point (assuming we don't keep Tyson, Kieff, Tucker).
Lol yeah no. That is a VERY generous estimation, unless we strike gold and acquire our very own AD. Even making the playoffs in 4 years would be an accomplishment in of itself . At the rate we're going our drought could last a decade. The harsh reality is that the Dubs have a wide window of opportunity for title runs and will be the frontrunners for the foreseeable future as a GOAT regular season team. Heck even this year's historically Top 20 Spurs team is no match for them, and when Pop, The Big Fundamental and Tony hang it up OKC will be right there to take their spot. We're in no hurry to speed up the rebuild
AtheJ415 wrote:saintEscaton wrote:AtheJ415 wrote:
My guess is 4 years. But I think if we continue to draft well we can maybe sneak into the playoffs 2 years from now, which would be mighty impressive given the age of the team at that point (assuming we don't keep Tyson, Kieff, Tucker).
Lol yeah no. That is a VERY generous estimation, unless we strike gold and acquire our very own AD. Even making the playoffs in 4 years would be an accomplishment in of itself . At the rate we're going our drought could last a decade. The harsh reality is that the Dubs have a wide window of opportunity for title runs and will be the frontrunners for the foreseeable future as a GOAT regular season team. Heck even this year's historically Top 20 Spurs team is no match for them, and when Pop, The Big Fundamental and Tony hang it up OKC will be right there to take their spot. We're in no hurry to speed up the rebuild
saintEscaton wrote:AtheJ415 wrote:saintEscaton wrote:
Lol yeah no. That is a VERY generous estimation, unless we strike gold and acquire our very own AD. Even making the playoffs in 4 years would be an accomplishment in of itself . At the rate we're going our drought could last a decade. The harsh reality is that the Dubs have a wide window of opportunity for title runs and will be the frontrunners for the foreseeable future as a GOAT regular season team. Heck even this year's historically Top 20 Spurs team is no match for them, and when Pop, The Big Fundamental and Tony hang it up OKC will be right there to take their spot. We're in no hurry to speed up the rebuild
Right back at ya
jcsunsfan wrote:Its funny the depths of pessimism. One or two players can COMPLETELY turn an NBA team around. Miami gutted its roster to nothing and rebuilt with two free agents. Boston was 24-58 in 2006-7 and went to 66-12 the next year. They traded for Garnett and Ray Allen and they were in business. BTW. They traded the 5th overall pick for Allen.
That's the way it is on message boards. It is never as bad as all the moan and groaners say, when it is bad. It is never as good as all the bandwagoners say when it is good.
saintEscaton wrote:jcsunsfan wrote:Its funny the depths of pessimism. One or two players can COMPLETELY turn an NBA team around. Miami gutted its roster to nothing and rebuilt with two free agents. Boston was 24-58 in 2006-7 and went to 66-12 the next year. They traded for Garnett and Ray Allen and they were in business. BTW. They traded the 5th overall pick for Allen.
That's the way it is on message boards. It is never as bad as all the moan and groaners say, when it is bad. It is never as good as all the bandwagoners say when it is good.
Phoenix isn't the marque FA destination that South Beach is and we don't have the slimeball Mafia Don Riley who is a master of pulling tricks under the table. Miami was the beneficiary of player collusion, DWade's friends were connected and took paycuts to create a super team. Blockbuster deals are a rarity and we probably don't have the treasure trove of assets to pull off one. Teams have learnt from Presti's blunder of selling low on Harden and will have high asking prices for any prospective franchise player. Houston was a lucky outlier. Brooklyn tried to recreate Boston's "win now" formula for success but they got taken to the cleaners and have no youth movement to show for after mortgaging their future
fromthetop321 wrote:I got Lebron number 1, he is also leading defensive player of the year. Curry's game still reminds me of Jeremy Lin to much.
DirtyDez wrote:Great game. If you look at the box score don't judge Simmons on 6/7 shooting. He was invisible down the stretch.
Hield is a sniper.
saintEscaton wrote:DirtyDez wrote:Great game. If you look at the box score don't judge Simmons on 6/7 shooting. He was invisible down the stretch.
Hield is a sniper.
The commentators were excusing his lack of assertiveness by saying that he wasn't getting plays drawn up to be run through him. But he usually defers to Quarterman and Blakesley to come up clutch. I don't see the alpha dog killer instinct.LSU has lost several games due to Simmons' unwillingness to take the open jumper when defenders sag off him. They most likely won't make the NCAA tourney and will have to settle for the NIT so he can't show out in the biggest stage
fromthetop321 wrote:I got Lebron number 1, he is also leading defensive player of the year. Curry's game still reminds me of Jeremy Lin to much.
"I've never been more down looking at a team I coached than what I just saw," he said. "Leadership, effort, togetherness, playing for the win. And right now things are going to get worse before they get better."
He went on to elaborate on his disgust.
"We've got to come to grips with two things," Miller said. "One, Sean Miller's your coach. You're gonna play for me. And No. 2 is, you're going to go so hard you can't breathe."
He said the Wildcats are "a collection right now of guys that are independent and thinking about a lot of things but certainly not thinking about what we're doing and what I'm talking about."
Miller's displeasure was obvious on the sideline during the game. At one point in the first half, he focused a tirade on Kaleb Tarczewski, pointing a finger inches from the big senior center's nose.
The coach was asked what prompted that outburst.
"This isn't tennis," Miller said. "This is basketball. There's accountability on offense and defense, and you win as a team and you lose as a team. I'll stop right there."
The Wildcats, who fell to 16-5 overall and at 4-4 are tied for sixth in the Pac-12, had lots of trouble with Oregon's trapping zone defense, committing 19 turnovers to the Ducks' six.
"They had nine steals," Miller said. "They played very hard. They've got great quickness. We were a disaster. We threw the ball to them on a number of occasions."
He warned against confusing this team with the ones that have dominated Pac-12 play in the past.
"Don't judge this team like Derrick Williams is on it. Or Sean Elliott. Or Rondae Hollis-Jefferson," Miller said. "Judge our team by the people that are in our locker room when we play. Just because things have happened in the past doesn't mean we can just -- the Jumbotron comes up and the crowd starts going crazy -- that we're going to win. That's not the way it works. It's a whole brand-new ballgame right now."
StarMaker wrote:I love Buddy Hield!! I've been wathcing him for this season and he is real. I hope to see him as one of Suns players.
StarMaker wrote:I love Buddy Hield!! I've been wathcing him for this season and he is real. I hope to see him as one of Suns players.
kennydorglas wrote:StarMaker wrote:I love Buddy Hield!! I've been wathcing him for this season and he is real. I hope to see him as one of Suns players.
I like him a lot. He projects to be a very decent defender in the league (1.5STL/0.6BLK per40)
He'll make a ton of money in the next level... but I dont think we'll draft him.
Saberestar wrote:kennydorglas wrote:StarMaker wrote:I love Buddy Hield!! I've been wathcing him for this season and he is real. I hope to see him as one of Suns players.
I like him a lot. He projects to be a very decent defender in the league (1.5STL/0.6BLK per40)
He'll make a ton of money in the next level... but I dont think we'll draft him.
Three prospects that I like a lot in the late teens or early twenties are Buddy Hield, Denzel Valentine and Domantas Sabonis.
Hield can be a solid player, great shooter and decent defender like Courtney Lee, for example.
Valentine is a two-way all around player...a glue guy that can defend SFs, SGs and even PGs. Good passer and high motor, he is one of my favourites players out of the lottery.
Sabonis is an offensive player, he can really move his feet and he understands the game. Hopefully he slides and we can pick him with the Cavs pick.