Trade Deadline Countdown....What will we do? What should we do?

[jcsunsfan]

Minnesota and NO are set for 10-15 years with their franchise players.

Damn.

And still they tank. They, like OKC several years ago, will not be able to hold on to all those quality young players. Someone should be able to get a good player off of them.

[carey]

N.O doesn't have any quality young players outside of A.D.

[King4Day]

Minnesota and NO are set for 10-15 years with their franchise players.

Damn.

I don't see Davis staying there long term.

Curry and Davis will come to the Hornets after their contracts end.

[SideSwipe]

Griffin, Moute, Dawson for PHX #1, Cavs #1, Booker, Kieff, Mirza, Goodwin

PHX goes with in 16-17

Bledsoe/ Price
Knight/ Bogdanovic
Tucker/ Warren/ Dawson
Griffin/ Leuer/ C. Jefferson(?)
Chandler/Len

Plus $20 million in FA money

Losing Book hurts, Goodwin too maybe and of course the pick(S), but if you have a chance at an All-NBA level PF you do it. Memories of losing out on Harden because of Gortat/ Dudley haunt us still.

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[jcsunsfan]

Griffin, Moute, Dawson for PHX #1, Cavs #1, Booker, Kieff, Mirza, Goodwin

PHX goes with in 16-17

Bledsoe/ Price
Knight/ Bogdanovic
Tucker/ Warren/ Dawson
Griffin/ Leuer/ C. Jefferson(?)
Chandler/Len

Plus $20 million in FA money

Losing Book hurts, Goodwin too maybe and of course the pick(S), but if you have a chance at an All-NBA level PF you do it. Memories of losing out on Harden because of Gortat/ Dudley haunt us still.

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I would find it hard to be a suns fan with Griffin on the team. He is just a creep.

[saintEscaton]

Griffin, Moute, Dawson for PHX #1, Cavs #1, Booker, Kieff, Mirza, Goodwin

PHX goes with in 16-17

Bledsoe/ Price
Knight/ Bogdanovic
Tucker/ Warren/ Dawson
Griffin/ Leuer/ C. Jefferson(?)
Chandler/Len

Plus $20 million in FA money

Losing Book hurts, Goodwin too maybe and of course the pick(S), but if you have a chance at an All-NBA level PF you do it. Memories of losing out on Harden because of Gortat/ Dudley haunt us still.

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This would completely derail the rebuild for maybe another 3 years when both Bled and Griffin will no longer be able to over rely on their freak athleticism when they are both past their prime. Griffin won't be unstoppable without CP3 his deadly PnR partner and I don't see Bled being able to execute the tight pocket passes or recreate Lob City. Kinda like Amare without Nash. That would move would put us back on the treadmill. Even if that team meshes well enough we are not making a title run and its ceiling is probably getting out of the first round if we get a high enough seed to avoid playing the creme of the crop. Sounds like something Sarver would do to increase sales and McDuh could finally say that he accomplished his goal of landing a star. Too little too late

[NavLDO]

Archie wont be happy with minor mop up minutes. No way he re-signs here, and even odds he squawks his way out if he has to play third fiddle next yr.

I'm looking for Knight to hang it up for the season soon. Goodwin is essentially auditioning for his next team. Something has to change. Who knows... may be Goodwin balls his way above BK in the rotations.

And there is no guarantee Bogdan comes over. Would you join this log jam ?

Knight has a sports hernia that apparently doesn't require surgery. I'm not sure he's done for the season. It won't effect the record if he plays so it doesn't matter too much. One thing I was thinking about after the game... the team signs Jordan McRae to a 10-day and promptly gives him 25 minutes last night. Do you know how many minutes Alex Len got? 17. T.J. Warren? 20. I think both of those guys should be pretty pissed off. Though I believe the rotations will look drastically different post trade deadline.

I wouldn't read too much into this. It was McRae's 1st game with us, and Horny wants to see what we have in him to determine whether he's worth signing long term. 10 days doesn't give teams much wiggle room to figure players out, so I'm not shocked, and won't be shocked, when McRae gets 25+ minutes per game during this time.

Regarding Bogdan? Even with a backlog of room, I think he comes over to get real NBA minutes. 12-15 mpg next season is better than 0 minutes, when trying to prove you belong in this league, and can be successful. Plus, if the team feels they can get something for Goodwin, then trade him now or in the off-season. If they can do this, and somehow offload Knight, then that fixes the backlog in a hurry. Weems isn't a long term option, neither is McRae, so I doubt either are with the team next year. That leaves Booker.

Overall, this team needs a complete overhaul. McD needs to concentrate on getting rid of Knight, but in order to do this, he'll need to attach a decent asset as well. Looking at Denver, they have a wealth of talent at the 4 and 5 positions, and are in position to make a trade with those assets to help them be competitive this year in the playoffs. Would they consider this trade?

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=zaqocyq

Suns Out: Knight, Morris, Tucker, Len, Cav's 2016 1st
Suns In: Faried, Chandler, Hickson, Harris, Jokic

Nuggets Out: Faried, Chandler, Hickson, Harris, Jokic
Nuggets In: Knight, Morris, Tucker, Len, Cav's 2016 1st

Why for Suns? We off-load Knight's contract and Morris' attitude/contract. We get back Faried, and our new developmental Center in Jokic.
Why for Nuggets? They off-load an injured Chandler, and basically replace him with Tucker. They off-load Harris, get better production out of Knight, and get a Center with more upside in Len.

I honestly think this would be good for both teams, but know trades like this don't happen. How do we work something out with Denver to allow them to be more competitive this season by off-loading broken (Chandler), excess (Jokic/Hickson), and middling (Harris) talent, but at the same time, we get some talent at the 4 with Faried?

I think Denver is an excellent trade partner for us. What do you all think?

EDIT: I was looking at the pieces like this, for value this season and draft.

Knight > Harris in talent; though Knight <<<< Harris in contract value.
Len > Jokic in upside; Jokic > Len in talent THIS season.
Tucker > Chandler in, well, worth.
Faried >>> Morris in talent. Morris > Faried in contract value.
Cav's 2016 1st >> Hickson value to team right now, since the Nuggets are so deep in 4/5.

[saintEscaton]

Archie wont be happy with minor mop up minutes. No way he re-signs here, and even odds he squawks his way out if he has to play third fiddle next yr.

I'm looking for Knight to hang it up for the season soon. Goodwin is essentially auditioning for his next team. Something has to change. Who knows... may be Goodwin balls his way above BK in the rotations.

And there is no guarantee Bogdan comes over. Would you join this log jam ?

Knight has a sports hernia that apparently doesn't require surgery. I'm not sure he's done for the season. It won't effect the record if he plays so it doesn't matter too much. One thing I was thinking about after the game... the team signs Jordan McRae to a 10-day and promptly gives him 25 minutes last night. Do you know how many minutes Alex Len got? 17. T.J. Warren? 20. I think both of those guys should be pretty pissed off. Though I believe the rotations will look drastically different post trade deadline.

I wouldn't read too much into this. It was McRae's 1st game with us, and Horny wants to see what we have in him to determine whether he's worth signing long term. 10 days doesn't give teams much wiggle room to figure players out, so I'm not shocked, and won't be shocked, when McRae gets 25+ minutes per game during this time.

Regarding Bogdan? Even with a backlog of room, I think he comes over to get real NBA minutes. 12-15 mpg next season is better than 0 minutes, when trying to prove you belong in this league, and can be successful. Plus, if the team feels they can get something for Goodwin, then trade him now or in the off-season. If they can do this, and somehow offload Knight, then that fixes the backlog in a hurry. Weems isn't a long term option, neither is McRae, so I doubt either are with the team next year. That leaves Booker.

Overall, this team needs a complete overhaul. McD needs to concentrate on getting rid of Knight, but in order to do this, he'll need to attach a decent asset as well. Looking at Denver, they have a wealth of talent at the 4 and 5 positions, and are in position to make a trade with those assets to help them be competitive this year in the playoffs. Would they consider this trade?

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=zaqocyq

Suns Out: Knight, Morris, Tucker, Len, Cav's 2016 1st
Suns In: Faried, Chandler, Hickson, Harris, Jokic

Nuggets Out: Faried, Chandler, Hickson, Harris, Jokic
Nuggets In: Knight, Morris, Tucker, Len, Cav's 2016 1st

Why for Suns? We off-load Knight's contract and Morris' attitude/contract. We get back Faried, and our new developmental Center in Jokic.
Why for Nuggets? They off-load an injured Chandler, and basically replace him with Tucker. They off-load Harris, get better production out of Knight, and get a Center with more upside in Len.

I honestly think this would be good for both teams, but know trades like this don't happen. How do we work something out with Denver to allow them to be more competitive this season by off-loading broken (Chandler), excess (Jokic/Hickson), and middling (Harris) talent, but at the same time, we get some talent at the 4 with Faried?

I think Denver is an excellent trade partner for us. What do you all think?

I don't want Faried. He might be the Manimal energizer bunny who can crash the glass, get garbage buckets secure second chance opportuntiies. But he's a glorified tweener on a near max contract and one of the worst defenders in the league. I'd rather keep Tucker as the hustle guy. Everybody else is just filler. Have you watched the Nuggets? Jokic has so far looked liked the second coming of rookie Pau Gasol and has flashed serious potential at the elbows as a playmaker in the post, definitely has more upside than Len and is more mechanically advanced with better hands at this stage despite being two years younger. Only second in PER to KAT in this class. He can even hit fadeaway jumpers and has a nice touch around the rim with the floater. He can co-exist with Nurkic who is moreof a bruiser. For that reason alone Denver says no.

[jcsunsfan]

Archie wont be happy with minor mop up minutes. No way he re-signs here, and even odds he squawks his way out if he has to play third fiddle next yr.

I'm looking for Knight to hang it up for the season soon. Goodwin is essentially auditioning for his next team. Something has to change. Who knows... may be Goodwin balls his way above BK in the rotations.

And there is no guarantee Bogdan comes over. Would you join this log jam ?

Knight has a sports hernia that apparently doesn't require surgery. I'm not sure he's done for the season. It won't effect the record if he plays so it doesn't matter too much. One thing I was thinking about after the game... the team signs Jordan McRae to a 10-day and promptly gives him 25 minutes last night. Do you know how many minutes Alex Len got? 17. T.J. Warren? 20. I think both of those guys should be pretty pissed off. Though I believe the rotations will look drastically different post trade deadline.

I wouldn't read too much into this. It was McRae's 1st game with us, and Horny wants to see what we have in him to determine whether he's worth signing long term. 10 days doesn't give teams much wiggle room to figure players out, so I'm not shocked, and won't be shocked, when McRae gets 25+ minutes per game during this time.

Regarding Bogdan? Even with a backlog of room, I think he comes over to get real NBA minutes. 12-15 mpg next season is better than 0 minutes, when trying to prove you belong in this league, and can be successful. Plus, if the team feels they can get something for Goodwin, then trade him now or in the off-season. If they can do this, and somehow offload Knight, then that fixes the backlog in a hurry. Weems isn't a long term option, neither is McRae, so I doubt either are with the team next year. That leaves Booker.

Overall, this team needs a complete overhaul. McD needs to concentrate on getting rid of Knight, but in order to do this, he'll need to attach a decent asset as well. Looking at Denver, they have a wealth of talent at the 4 and 5 positions, and are in position to make a trade with those assets to help them be competitive this year in the playoffs. Would they consider this trade?

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=zaqocyq

Suns Out: Knight, Morris, Tucker, Len, Cav's 2016 1st
Suns In: Faried, Chandler, Hickson, Harris, Jokic

Nuggets Out: Faried, Chandler, Hickson, Harris, Jokic
Nuggets In: Knight, Morris, Tucker, Len, Cav's 2016 1st

Why for Suns? We off-load Knight's contract and Morris' attitude/contract. We get back Faried, and our new developmental Center in Jokic.
Why for Nuggets? They off-load an injured Chandler, and basically replace him with Tucker. They off-load Harris, get better production out of Knight, and get a Center with more upside in Len.

I honestly think this would be good for both teams, but know trades like this don't happen. How do we work something out with Denver to allow them to be more competitive this season by off-loading broken (Chandler), excess (Jokic/Hickson), and middling (Harris) talent, but at the same time, we get some talent at the 4 with Faried?

I think Denver is an excellent trade partner for us. What do you all think?

EDIT: I was looking at the pieces like this, for value this season and draft.

Knight > Harris in talent; though Knight <<<< Harris in contract value.
Len > Jokic in upside; Jokic > Len in talent THIS season.
Tucker > Chandler in, well, worth.
Faried >>> Morris in talent. Morris > Faried in contract value.
Cav's 2016 1st >> Hickson value to team right now, since the Nuggets are so deep in 4/5.

Knight is not nearly as bad a contract as you think. There are plenty of teams that would want him just for his scoring, like Ainge did with IT. His contract is not killing us either. No point in giving up assets for what isn't hurting you (talking about his salary). The Suns are no where close to the luxury tax, so all that dumping of contracts years ago doesn't apply now.

If Knight doesn't work out as a starter, we can bring him off the bench as a 6th man. He would fit well in that role. Knight is not the type of pouter that Kieff is or Goran was. No need to make bad trades like this.

[bwgood77]

I repeat for the umpteenth time. Hornacek has lost the locker room and needs to go, now.

You sure do. Even in the trade thread. In every thread. Please don't derail threads.

[SSOL]

Booker is untouchable. So is our pick without protection.

[NavLDO]

Spoiler:

Knight has a sports hernia that apparently doesn't require surgery. I'm not sure he's done for the season. It won't effect the record if he plays so it doesn't matter too much. One thing I was thinking about after the game... the team signs Jordan McRae to a 10-day and promptly gives him 25 minutes last night. Do you know how many minutes Alex Len got? 17. T.J. Warren? 20. I think both of those guys should be pretty pissed off. Though I believe the rotations will look drastically different post trade deadline.

I wouldn't read too much into this. It was McRae's 1st game with us, and Horny wants to see what we have in him to determine whether he's worth signing long term. 10 days doesn't give teams much wiggle room to figure players out, so I'm not shocked, and won't be shocked, when McRae gets 25+ minutes per game during this time.

Regarding Bogdan? Even with a backlog of room, I think he comes over to get real NBA minutes. 12-15 mpg next season is better than 0 minutes, when trying to prove you belong in this league, and can be successful. Plus, if the team feels they can get something for Goodwin, then trade him now or in the off-season. If they can do this, and somehow offload Knight, then that fixes the backlog in a hurry. Weems isn't a long term option, neither is McRae, so I doubt either are with the team next year. That leaves Booker.

Overall, this team needs a complete overhaul. McD needs to concentrate on getting rid of Knight, but in order to do this, he'll need to attach a decent asset as well. Looking at Denver, they have a wealth of talent at the 4 and 5 positions, and are in position to make a trade with those assets to help them be competitive this year in the playoffs. Would they consider this trade?

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=zaqocyq

Suns Out: Knight, Morris, Tucker, Len, Cav's 2016 1st
Suns In: Faried, Chandler, Hickson, Harris, Jokic

Nuggets Out: Faried, Chandler, Hickson, Harris, Jokic
Nuggets In: Knight, Morris, Tucker, Len, Cav's 2016 1st

Why for Suns? We off-load Knight's contract and Morris' attitude/contract. We get back Faried, and our new developmental Center in Jokic.
Why for Nuggets? They off-load an injured Chandler, and basically replace him with Tucker. They off-load Harris, get better production out of Knight, and get a Center with more upside in Len.

I honestly think this would be good for both teams, but know trades like this don't happen. How do we work something out with Denver to allow them to be more competitive this season by off-loading broken (Chandler), excess (Jokic/Hickson), and middling (Harris) talent, but at the same time, we get some talent at the 4 with Faried?

I think Denver is an excellent trade partner for us. What do you all think?

EDIT: I was looking at the pieces like this, for value this season and draft.

Knight > Harris in talent; though Knight <<<< Harris in contract value.
Len > Jokic in upside; Jokic > Len in talent THIS season.
Tucker > Chandler in, well, worth.
Faried >>> Morris in talent. Morris > Faried in contract value.
Cav's 2016 1st >> Hickson value to team right now, since the Nuggets are so deep in 4/5.

Knight is not nearly as bad a contract as you think. There are plenty of teams that would want him just for his scoring, like Ainge did with IT. His contract is not killing us either. No point in giving up assets for what isn't hurting you (talking about his salary). The Suns are no where close to the luxury tax, so all that dumping of contracts years ago doesn't apply now.

If Knight doesn't work out as a starter, we can bring him off the bench as a 6th man. He would fit well in that role. Knight is not the type of pouter that Kieff is or Goran was. No need to make bad trades like this.

We'll just have to agree to disagree on Knight's contract; IMO, you don't pay a bench player 17% or about 1/6th of the team's Cap. If we did that for our starters, plus our 6th man, we'd have no money left over for the other 8 players. And he's not good enough to be our starting PG/SG, long-term. So yeah, his contract is as bad as I'm making it out to be; if a team picks up Knight to be their starting PG/SG, then sure, but McD has to be able to sell that notion, and to me, that's a tough sell.

And Ainge wanted IT for scoring because he was only costing him half of what Knight's making; that's a huge difference in cost, so that's a poor comp for Knight.

I don't expect many to like the trade I proposed, simply due to the number of pieces moving. And that's fine. My point wasn't that the trade idea was a good one; it was more along the line of Denver being a good trade partner for us. Both teams have pieces they don't want/need. For Denver, it's the 4 and 5 positions; for Phoenix, it's the 1, 2, and 3 positions. We have Bledsoe, Knight, Goodwin, Booker, Price, Weems, Tucker, and Warren, with Bogdanovic 'waiting in the wings', as it were, so for next season, that's nine bodies. We only have Len, Chandler, and Leuer next season (assuming Kieff, Teletovic, and Jefferson are gone). I'm suggesting we attempt to build our roster for with next season in mind, and trade with a team that is looking to make the playoffs this season; and that team should have a surplus of 'big's like Denver.

And Saint, if Jokic is playing that well, then I agree, Len wouldn't likely be 'enough' for them. Maybe switch Jokic out for Nurkic, and we add in Goodwin, instead of the Cavs pick:

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=z3mmumx

Suns Out: Knight, Morris, Tucker, Len, Goodwin
Suns In: Faried, Chandler, Hickson, Harris, Nurkic

Nuggets Out: Faried, Chandler, Hickson, Harris, Nurkic
Nuggets In: Knight, Morris, Tucker, Len, Goodwin

And I should add that while we'd be taking in Faried, we wouldn't necessarily need to keep him after this season. He's a starting PF making, what, an avg of $12.5M per for the next 3 years? That's much easier to move than Knight's $14M per for the next 4 years due to 1) it's cheaper AND shorter, and 2) it's for a 'big' vice a SG.

We could also make it a smaller trade, something like:

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=h4znpeg

Suns Out: Knight, Morris, Cav's 2016 1st
Suns In: Faried, Chandler

Nuggets Out: Faried, Chandler
Nuggets In: Knight, Morris, Cav's 2016 1st

[thamadkant]

Wouldnt want to be Nuggets.
That team will NEVER get pass the first round until they get an All-Star player or two. They do have good role players that hustle and play well within the system. But does not have a go to player night in and night out.

Suns are similarly built to them currently... but with the advantage of having 4 young players showing nice development.




2018 should be the target to be a top 5 West team.
Personally, I will benchmark the Warriors and Spurs... get the best bits from both and make a team from that.
To me, my goal will be.

Tall, athletic, multi-skilled backcourt: Booker, Goodwin and Bogdanovic satisfies that need for me. Heck even McRae satisfies that, but let's see how he adjust to the NBA. The goal is to give teams like Warriors a bit of work in regards to playing defense. Make Curry, Thompson exert energy defending taller, more athletic players. Have long enough players to also bother their shots, forcing them to launch shots at a higher angle or at a different form... which reduces the chances of hitting their shots.


Fast, super athletic forward rotation that can interchange: Similar to the Warriors and Bucks, have 6'8+ SF and a taller PF, but with 7'2+ wingspans. That can run, hustle defensively, nail front facing shots. Finish above the rim. The key is to challenge perimeter shooters but be quick enough to play defense from the back or provide good help defense. Bucks, Warriors, Spurs are good examples of this.

Defense savvy, elite rebounding center, who will punish smaller players: Cousins is my ideal choice... Towns is also another choice. Davis would be fantastic but he needs to get thicker to not be bothered by strong but shorter players like Green etc.



The draft, this coming draft is ideal to get that PF or SF. Ingram (6'9, 7'3 wingspan), Simmons (6'10, 6'11 wingspan).. Simmons isnt as "long", but his 6'10 height is immense for a Small Forward position, can see over defenses etc.


Other notable players I would target: Jerami Grant (6'8, 7'3 wingspan); Durant (lol), Whiteside (7'0, 7'7 wingspan)

[SideSwipe]

Booker is untouchable. So is our pick without protection.

Sorry guys, but this is very short sighted, IMO. I love Book and the pick is nice, but for the right package you need to let them go. If you have an All-NBA caliber talent available at that price you do it (assuming health isn't a concern) and put the right pieces around him.

[saintEscaton]

Booker is untouchable. So is our pick without protection.

Sorry guys, but this is very short sighted, IMO. I love Book and the pick is nice, but for the right package you need to let them go. If you have an All-NBA caliber talent available at that price you do it (assuming health isn't a concern) and put the right pieces around him.

I remember when some posters said they wouldn't part with him even for Harden.

[DirtyDez]

Booker is untouchable. So is our pick without protection.

Sorry guys, but this is very short sighted, IMO. I love Book and the pick is nice, but for the right package you need to let them go. If you have an All-NBA caliber talent available at that price you do it (assuming health isn't a concern) and put the right pieces around him.

I agree that he's not untouchable but the Suns aren't in position to trade an "all-NBA" player right now. I do remember people calling Len untouchable at times last year.

[King4Day]

Booker is untouchable. So is our pick without protection.

Sorry guys, but this is very short sighted, IMO. I love Book and the pick is nice, but for the right package you need to let them go. If you have an All-NBA caliber talent available at that price you do it (assuming health isn't a concern) and put the right pieces around him.

I would agree if it means we will start competing for a title.
Stripping the team for Griffin will kill the Suns. We'd have a few players on big contracts. Our depth would be hurt and it would be hard to put the right pieces around him.

If a far more talented Clippers team can't win with Griffin, there's no way a stripped down Suns team will.

I do agree, to get a star like Griffin, the Suns would have to give up the farm for him. Problem is, the Suns aren't in the right position to go after him. Not good trade partners.
With the Warriors and Spurs young and locked up for the next half decade, there's really no reason to try to compete now.

[blacksun]

Booker is untouchable. So is our pick without protection.

Sorry guys, but this is very short sighted, IMO. I love Book and the pick is nice, but for the right package you need to let them go. If you have an All-NBA caliber talent available at that price you do it (assuming health isn't a concern) and put the right pieces around him.

I would agree if it means we will start competing for a title.
Stripping the team for Griffin will kill the Suns. We'd have a few players on big contracts. Our depth would be hurt and it would be hard to put the right pieces around him.

If a far more talented Clippers team can't win with Griffin, there's no way a stripped down Suns team will.

I do agree, to get a star like Griffin, the Suns would have to give up the farm for him. Problem is, the Suns aren't in the right position to go after him. Not good trade partners.
With the Warriors and Spurs young and locked up for the next half decade, there's really no reason to try to compete now.

This. Griffin isnt the type of player to win you championships. And to give up Book AND our ticket to the Ben Simmons lottery? No thanks a hundred million times.

[MrMiyagi]

Booker is untouchable. So is our pick without protection.

Sorry guys, but this is very short sighted, IMO. I love Book and the pick is nice, but for the right package you need to let them go. If you have an All-NBA caliber talent available at that price you do it (assuming health isn't a concern) and put the right pieces around him.

I would agree if it means we will start competing for a title.
Stripping the team for Griffin will kill the Suns. We'd have a few players on big contracts. Our depth would be hurt and it would be hard to put the right pieces around him.

If a far more talented Clippers team can't win with Griffin, there's no way a stripped down Suns team will.

I do agree, to get a star like Griffin, the Suns would have to give up the farm for him. Problem is, the Suns aren't in the right position to go after him. Not good trade partners.
With the Warriors and Spurs young and locked up for the next half decade, there's really no reason to try to compete now.

Isn't Doc the GM too? Does he have another son we can ransom to him?

[Puff]

I repeat for the umpteenth time. Hornacek has lost the locker room and needs to go, now.

You sure do. Even in the trade thread. In every thread. Please don't derail threads.

I do no usually post in this thread because virtually all of it nonsense.

I commented on Frank Lee's and Carey's posts that were not trade related but were made in this thread. They were questioning the minutes that were being handed out to Len and Warren by Coach Hornacek.

Please call them out as well.