Official Juventus FC Thread

[J-Mezzy]

I've read some rumors of a Pogba/James swap. That might actually work for all parties involved, but idk if Juve can pay James wages. Dyabaka James would be fun to watch. Pogba would work better in Madrid's 433

[DD12]

Pogba/James??? Lol juve needs to receive 50 mil in addition to james in order to be a fair deal for them. There is no way juve will give up on pogba for James. And to be honest, not only Jamez, except cr7 and messi, there is really no one they would accept for a straight swap with pogba.

[J-Mezzy]

Pogba is leaving no matter what. First I didn't say straight up swap. Second, pogba is really overrated by some. He's not even the best player in his team. He's done little with France or in big CL games to get the hype he gets. He is a great player, but this talk that he's only worth less than Messi and Ronaldo is ridiculous. Before you make claims of last year's CL run, he was out for a good chunk of it and the likes of Teves and even Morata dominated.

fact is Pogba hasn't done anything James hasn't except with serie a which Juve will do often with or without him. Madrid has won la liga only once in the past 6 going on 7 years. You also underestimate marketing value which is also what drives James' price up. WC and last season, James was better no question about it. This season James is out of shape and form, but he'll be back.

Pogba is a better fit for Madrid in that 433 since they have to play the BBC. He's a true box to box guy and he's one pf if not the best in the world. Madrid will try to get him for sure. Hopefully Barza doesn't for Arda's sake.

[J-Mezzy]

Btw, I rate Dyabala ahead of both Pogba and James. What a talent

[DD12]

Who said Pogba is leaving? He said it numerous times that he wants to say and he just recently signed a long term contract with Juve if I am not mistaken.

Pogba is surely their best player. Yet Dybala's form is unbelievable and I would put Dybala ahead of him at the moment. But overall Pogba is proven, been consistent and that's why I would choose Pogba over Dybala just because we haven't seen enough from Dybala. Pogba is only 22 years old and playing superb football. He needs mature his play a bit more because sometimes he is acting very childish on the pitch but still a magnificent player.

James was sold to Real Madrid just because 3-4 games in WC and we all know that. Without that WC, he was still playing for Monaco in France. I don't think there is a difference in marketing value between Pogba and James. In fact, Pogba is a much better player and already proven that he can carry a team on his shoulders as he has been winning with Juve since the day got there and as well as CL final. We haven't seen anything from James even though he has been playing with the world class players. Yes, he made some stats but to be honest, anyone who has average skilled set can score 10 goals and 10 assists by playing next to Cristiano Ronaldo, Bale, Benzema.

[J-Mezzy]

Serie A is easy to win for Juve, as much as you give Bayern a hard time, it's the same thing with Juve. They lost guys like Pirlo, Teves, and Pogba got off to a poor start and they are still winning.

You don't rate James, so this is pointless. By the way, only midfielder to be involved in 10 goals in spain this season (6 assists 4 goals) despite of **** shape and injuries. You'll say it's easy with Madrid, but then I don't see Iniesta, Rakitic, kroos or modric doing it.

They are both great players. I could care less if you think Pogba is better, he might be. But to hype Pogba as a monster and not rate James is ridiculous.

Pogba has never carried Juve by the way. An argument coukd be made that someone else was a more important player every year. Last year Teves, this year Dyabala, before Pirlo and Marchisio.

Marketing wise James is much bigger but that's because he represents an entire country and is a pretty boy. Look at their endorsement deals, James takes that easily. James did carry a team in the world cup, carried Monaco, was huge for Porto, had a great first season last year despute missing 2.5 months. In fact, this is the first time he's struggled and his numbers are still good among midfielders


Pogba is great himself. This is not a bash on him. Just saying of they sell him for 100 mill, Juve could do worse than get James to play alongside Dyabala.

[El Turco]

Serie A is easy to win for Juve, as much as you give Bayern a hard time, it's the same thing with Juve.

really? when was the last time bayern was not first place come february?

[cgf]

Before this season, hasn't that been true of Juve as well?

[SlobbaN]

Good lord Pogba is overhyped... Both James and Pogba have been average this season (got a friend who watches tons of La Liga), stop spewing nonsense.

[DD12]

Good lord Pogba is overhyped... Both James and Pogba have been average this season (got a friend who watches tons of La Liga), stop spewing nonsense.

Lmaooo sure.

There are 5 clubs who will pay 100 million euro for Pogba today. They don't know anything but Slobban and his friend who watxhes tons of La Liga knows better. Ok dude, got you.

[magik9113]

Over the past few seasons Pogba has won many games for Juve by himself with his dribbling and shots from outside the box. He is essential when it comes to Juve dominating possession on a weekly basis as he traps any ball in his vicinity and can dribble thru three players in a tight space no problem. When his goals are down people seem to bash him for no reason

[magik9113]

You don't rate James, so this is pointless. By the way, only midfielder to be involved in 10 goals in spain this season (6 assists 4 goals) despite of **** shape and injuries. You'll say it's easy with Madrid, but then I don't see Iniesta, Rakitic, kroos or modric doing it.

Pogba currently has 5 goals and 5 assists. sure he's played less games but Juve also don't score as many as Real do.

Pogba has never carried Juve by the way. An argument coukd be made that someone else was a more important player every year. Last year Teves, this year Dyabala, before Pirlo and Marchisio.

He has won many games for Juve. No one player will carry Juve because we have many great players.

Marketing wise James is much bigger but that's because he represents an entire country and is a pretty boy. Look at their endorsement deals, James takes that easily. James did carry a team in the world cup, carried Monaco, was huge for Porto, had a great first season last year despute missing 2.5 months. In fact, this is the first time he's struggled and his numbers are still good among midfielders

Pogba would carry Monaco and Porto easily dude. Let's also not forget he's a couple years younger than James and the Euros are coming up this summer.

[DD12]

Talk to them my boy.

[J-Mezzy]

We'll see what he does this summer. Both great players but if Massimo thinks James is over hyped, so is Pogba. Their production is similar, their careers similar.

Btw massimo, City offered 100 million for James and Madrid turned it down.

My original post was that if Pogba was to leave, a swap with James wouldn't be a bad idea, but then mass said Pogba is worth a zillion more and not even magik can deny that they are both of similar value and that Juve could do worse than having sorry ass James playing for them

[magik9113]

I don't think it's a given that Pogba is leaving. He is happy, Juve are an elite team. Everyone told me he was gone this summer and it didn't happen.

I would be disappointed with a Pogba for James straight swap but yea if they throw in a good amount of money also then I would not complain. We missed out on getting a number 10 this summer and James would be fantastic. There is even a video of him when he was like 17 saying he would grow up to play for Juve his favorite team.

At the same time, the whole missing out on a number ten has been a non issue, thank god. Allegri deserves his props for sure

[J-Mezzy]

Idk, Pogba looks like a player destined to play in barza or Madrid and I doubt Juve turn down 100 million for him.

[DD12]

We'll see what he does this summer. Both great players but if Massimo thinks James is over hyped, so is Pogba. Their production is similar, their careers similar.

Btw massimo, City offered 100 million for James and Madrid turned it down.

My original post was that if Pogba was to leave, a swap with James wouldn't be a bad idea, but then mass said Pogba is worth a zillion more and not even magik can deny that they are both of similar value and that Juve could do worse than having sorry ass James playing for them

One of them is playing for Real Madrid along Cr7 bale and benzema, scoring around 100+ goals every year. Competition is much much softer. More importantly, one of them is #10 and the other one is pure midfielder like Kroos.

Pogba is much much better player then James and he is younger. One of them is playing for colombia and pogba is almost being best player in France. These two are not even comparable.

[J-Mezzy]

In your mind. You are the master of double standards. You discredit James' numbers, which are clearly better than Pogba's because he plays for Madrid and he's surrounded by better talent, but then turn around and diminish James' achievement for Colombia because it's easier to be a top dog there than in France. You can't have it both ways.

By the way, Juve is way more dominant of serie a than madrid will even dream of in la liga so I don't get this whole it's easier in Madrid. Also, la liga is a better league. Other than Juve just last season, the cl and europa have shown that la liga is the top league.

Btw, James has yet to play a single game as a number 10. He's mostly played LM or RM. Most of his goals are from outside the box, nothing to do with Ronaldo or Bale. If anything, the BBC hurts him. Poor ball movement, doesn't get to play his preferred position, has to play for others rather than be the focal point.

Most Madrid fans on bigsoccer would rather keep Isco and James. I'd rather have Pigba but not because he's much better or even better, but Isco and James are 10s playing out of position. Pogba would actually fit in.

[Merc_Porto]

Pogba >>>>>>>>> James

[J-Mezzy]

Pogba >>>>>>>>> James

Based on what, hype? Stats say they are even. One was the young player of the wc, the other was arguably the best player of the tournament.

Accomplishments are even, stats even, price tag even. But sure, Pogba only trails Ronaldo and Messi. The hype is strong with that one