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Re: Celtics @ Magic 1/31/16 6pm 

Post#521 » by Mc-o » Mon Feb 1, 2016 4:26 pm

Blue_and_Whte wrote:
zelenooq wrote:
Optimus_Steel wrote:Well I celebrated this win because it has been a while. The Magic finally found their cojones, to bad it was middle of the 3rd but hey at least they found them for a night. I thought it was Aaron and Mario's swagger that really kept the team in it. Aaron showing glimpses of his all around talents, really put his stamp on this game. He was a wrecking ball out there. Mario showed that he can be the big time shot maker that we desperately need. He made some really tough shots with a hand in his face, big time shots, and the fact that he can shot so well give his teammates tons of space because the defense is reluctant to sag off of him. Even if he is not being featured he needs to be on the floor more even if its for decoy.

Now the fact that they gave up and 11 or 12 pt lead and let them cut it to 3 in about 1 min is extremely alarming, its like they haven't learned anything, they just lose their sharpness. I feel like we have to be up double digits to win any games late because we get so soft. The missing ft's thing just looks mental.

it is on skiles
you have to have best FT shooter on the court in that situations
smith,hezonja,vuc...

WTF did he do now? Starts Gordon, Plays Mario 30 mins, not enough. Is he supposed to stick his hand up their asses and work them like a puppet. Missing FT's isn't Skiles fault. Generally speaking the only bad FT shooters on the team are Payton and Dedmon.

Lol some people just like to hate lol to some people Skiles is always the reason we lose and never the reason we win lol
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Re: Celtics @ Magic 1/31/16 6pm 

Post#522 » by PennytoShaq » Mon Feb 1, 2016 4:26 pm

One thing I notice more and more about Skiles offense is ironically, a point guard doesn't seem to be that important to running it. Since the team just moves the ball up the court and passes so fast, anyone can do it. This is why Mario was so effective. He can bring the ball up and is a very comfortable passer, so he gets the team into a play very quickly. He also is an excellent finisher on the fast break, so he can run the floor that way too.

When you look at the top PGs in the league, they play like SGs. Westbrook and Curry. They have great handles, but their main focus is getting up the floor and scoring or creating assists from their gravity since they have to be guarded closely as soon as they cross half court.

Im not saying Mario is a PG but if you rolled him out next to Victor and both handled the ball when needed, we may have something there if Victor can keep shooting the ball at a good %.
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Re: Celtics @ Magic 1/31/16 6pm 

Post#523 » by OrlandoNed » Mon Feb 1, 2016 4:50 pm

PennytoShaq wrote:One thing I notice more and more about Skiles offense is ironically, a point guard doesn't seem to be that important to running it. Since the team just moves the ball up the court and passes so fast, anyone can do it. This is why Mario was so effective. He can bring the ball up and is a very comfortable passer, so he gets the team into a play very quickly. He also is an excellent finisher on the fast break, so he can run the floor that way too.

When you look at the top PGs in the league, they play like SGs. Westbrook and Curry. They have great handles, but their main focus is getting up the floor and scoring or creating assists from their gravity since they have to be guarded closely as soon as they cross half court.

Im not saying Mario is a PG but if you rolled him out next to Victor and both handled the ball when needed, we may have something there if Victor can keep shooting the ball at a good %.

Those stretches we went without Payton and Oladipo didn't look terrible. Is there enough collective passing ability between Fournier, Hezonja, Gordon and/or Harris and 1 and/or 2 bigs for that to be an effective lineup long term for a bench line up?
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Re: Celtics @ Magic 1/31/16 6pm 

Post#524 » by zelenooq » Mon Feb 1, 2016 5:02 pm

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zelenooq wrote:
Optimus_Steel wrote:Well I celebrated this win because it has been a while. The Magic finally found their cojones, to bad it was middle of the 3rd but hey at least they found them for a night. I thought it was Aaron and Mario's swagger that really kept the team in it. Aaron showing glimpses of his all around talents, really put his stamp on this game. He was a wrecking ball out there. Mario showed that he can be the big time shot maker that we desperately need. He made some really tough shots with a hand in his face, big time shots, and the fact that he can shot so well give his teammates tons of space because the defense is reluctant to sag off of him. Even if he is not being featured he needs to be on the floor more even if its for decoy.

Now the fact that they gave up and 11 or 12 pt lead and let them cut it to 3 in about 1 min is extremely alarming, its like they haven't learned anything, they just lose their sharpness. I feel like we have to be up double digits to win any games late because we get so soft. The missing ft's thing just looks mental.

it is on skiles
you have to have best FT shooter on the court in that situations
smith,hezonja,vuc...

Frye too.
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Re: Celtics @ Magic 1/31/16 6pm 

Post#525 » by zelenooq » Mon Feb 1, 2016 5:05 pm

Blue_and_Whte wrote:
zelenooq wrote:
Optimus_Steel wrote:Well I celebrated this win because it has been a while. The Magic finally found their cojones, to bad it was middle of the 3rd but hey at least they found them for a night. I thought it was Aaron and Mario's swagger that really kept the team in it. Aaron showing glimpses of his all around talents, really put his stamp on this game. He was a wrecking ball out there. Mario showed that he can be the big time shot maker that we desperately need. He made some really tough shots with a hand in his face, big time shots, and the fact that he can shot so well give his teammates tons of space because the defense is reluctant to sag off of him. Even if he is not being featured he needs to be on the floor more even if its for decoy.

Now the fact that they gave up and 11 or 12 pt lead and let them cut it to 3 in about 1 min is extremely alarming, its like they haven't learned anything, they just lose their sharpness. I feel like we have to be up double digits to win any games late because we get so soft. The missing ft's thing just looks mental.

it is on skiles
you have to have best FT shooter on the court in that situations
smith,hezonja,vuc...

WTF did he do now? Starts Gordon, Plays Mario 30 mins, not enough. Is he supposed to stick his hand up their asses and work them like a puppet. Missing FT's isn't Skiles fault. Generally speaking the only bad FT shooters on the team are Payton and Dedmon.
calm down, it is about who has best FT percentage
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Re: Celtics @ Magic 1/31/16 6pm 

Post#526 » by BadMofoPimp » Mon Feb 1, 2016 5:07 pm

It wasn't JUST the best FT shooters, but needed to have the best defensive players in there as well. You can't just have one without the other.
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Re: Celtics @ Magic 1/31/16 6pm 

Post#527 » by PennytoShaq » Mon Feb 1, 2016 5:11 pm

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PennytoShaq wrote:One thing I notice more and more about Skiles offense is ironically, a point guard doesn't seem to be that important to running it. Since the team just moves the ball up the court and passes so fast, anyone can do it. This is why Mario was so effective. He can bring the ball up and is a very comfortable passer, so he gets the team into a play very quickly. He also is an excellent finisher on the fast break, so he can run the floor that way too.

When you look at the top PGs in the league, they play like SGs. Westbrook and Curry. They have great handles, but their main focus is getting up the floor and scoring or creating assists from their gravity since they have to be guarded closely as soon as they cross half court.

Im not saying Mario is a PG but if you rolled him out next to Victor and both handled the ball when needed, we may have something there if Victor can keep shooting the ball at a good %.

Those stretches we went without Payton and Oladipo didn't look terrible. Is there enough collective passing ability between Fournier, Hezonja, Gordon and/or Harris and 1 and/or 2 bigs for that to be an effective lineup long term for a bench line up?


Definitely if we are talking bench. Hezonja next to Fournier is just a nasty combo, especially if they got to develop next to each other over a few years.

We are looking at starters really. If the Magic could trade a combo of Harris Vuc and Victor to get a legit stud at SF, and then sign a defensive big like Ezili over the summer you could start Mario/Evan/Stud SF/Gordon/Ezili and terrorize the league for years as long as the bench had some depth.
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Re: Celtics @ Magic 1/31/16 6pm 

Post#528 » by ORL_on_FIRE » Mon Feb 1, 2016 8:25 pm

Tfw I wouldn't complain if we got the W no matter who got minutes.

Am beyond happy seeing Rio and Gordon get a chance though.
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Re: Celtics @ Magic 1/31/16 6pm 

Post#529 » by NBlue » Mon Feb 1, 2016 9:15 pm

ChosenSavior wrote:Yeah I've been pretty hard on Skiles the past couple of days but blaming him for our relatively good FT shooters missing pressure FTs is a bit of a reach tbh.

Skiles did extremely well in this game. Looking forward to how he handles tonight against the Spurs.



Exactly. Thought Skiles pulled the strings perfectly in that game. Though I still believe he deserves blame for some of those other games he certainly gets credit for the W last night. 2 moves I really liked were the early move to Mario instead of Napier when EP picked up his second foul in the first quarter and the use of Dedmon for energy. I thought both were smart and were rewarded.
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Re: Celtics @ Magic 1/31/16 6pm 

Post#530 » by tooler » Mon Feb 1, 2016 10:47 pm

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkzIPQCnVXM[/youtube]
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGBOeoB3Cc0[/youtube]

It was a great January.
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Re: Celtics @ Magic 1/31/16 6pm 

Post#531 » by OrlandoDream » Mon Feb 1, 2016 11:02 pm

Skin wrote:
OrlandoDream wrote:AG 39 minutes
Mario 33 minutes

Is RealGm pleased tonight?

:nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod:

Hopefully this serves as a wake up call for Skiles. I could watch this kind of basketball forever.

That was a really fun game. Have not enjoyed watching one of our games like that in a while.
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Re: Celtics @ Magic 1/31/16 6pm 

Post#532 » by Anti Chalmers » Mon Feb 1, 2016 11:26 pm

tooler wrote:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkzIPQCnVXM[/youtube]
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGBOeoB3Cc0[/youtube]

It was a great January.


Mario must have a big following. 36k views already compared to AG 3k
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Re: Celtics @ Magic 1/31/16 6pm 

Post#533 » by Von Bismarck » Mon Feb 1, 2016 11:36 pm

Anti Chalmers wrote:Mario must have a big following. 36k views already compared to AG 3k


He is very popular in his country, not as soccer players (Croatia has some brilliant players that play in Real Madrid and Barcelona) but probably the most popular basketball player since Drazen Petrovic and Toni Kukoc era. Also, he still has a large fan base in Barcelona judging by his FB profile.

p.s Aaron's face expression :rofl:
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Re: Celtics @ Magic 1/31/16 6pm 

Post#534 » by AdamTheGreek » Mon Feb 1, 2016 11:53 pm

I'll tell you that by far my biggest interview hits are Mario videos. A lot of European eyes.
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Re: Celtics @ Magic 1/31/16 6pm 

Post#535 » by Von Bismarck » Mon Feb 1, 2016 11:58 pm

AdamTheGreek wrote:I'll tell you that by far my biggest interview hits are Mario videos. A lot of European eyes.


Besides Croatia obviously, from which Euro countries you get the most hits, if it's not too much to ask?
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Re: Celtics @ Magic 1/31/16 6pm 

Post#536 » by cedric76 » Tue Feb 2, 2016 12:23 am

Dipo sucked a bit last night, was supposed to replace Mario for defensive reasons but almost lost us our lead

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Re: Celtics @ Magic 1/31/16 6pm 

Post#537 » by neuraldarwinism » Wed Feb 3, 2016 4:07 am


aaron gordon is god



fournier misses hezonja trailing for a 3 pointer and then standing their wide open off screen for 3 seconds (too lazy to **** with centering)


tobias missing hezonja on a fast break 3

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