PG: FJU Needs To Be Shut Down

[R-DAWG]

Well it's nothing we aren't used to. We need to find a couple quality young guys to put next to KP and build around that new nucleus. At least KP has upside. At the very least that should be entertaining and interesting to see unfold.

And the best way to do this is by trading Melo for picks and young players

[Capn'O]

Yeah - I really thought he was gonna get a guard or two when he said all that. TaBully on me.

fixed it

Tabouli is so good.

Look - let's change the subject. Allen Crabbe looks like he could make his hair look like a crab these days. He's pretty close. He could do it.

[mpharris36]

lets be serious for a second. This Kerr being this offensive genius needs to stop. The warriors have Curry and Klay two of the best shot makers in the entire NBA. There range is unlimited. Some of the shots where Klay was coming off a pin down screen we run the exact same play for AA. The difference is Klay is lethal and has arguably the quickest release in the game.

Curry makes some ridiculous shots as well.

Also they have a point forward that sometimes plays point center allowing the 4 small guys to run around and shoot while he draws the big man out of the paint.

Personel wins in the NBA.

[K_ick_God]

It isn't completely crazy to think that Ainge would give up the New Jersey pick for Melo, or that Melo would go to Boston.

[BBALLER4FR]

Let me start off by saying witnessing Derek Fisher live is a whole other level of embarrassment. Its one thing to watch him on TV when you can barely see the bench, but it's a whole other phenomenon when you have to suffer the agony of his laziness at MSG. This is the 6th year in a row I've had season tickets (back when posters on this board were called Abe & Paco), and seeing him refuse to get off the bench is sickening. This isn't Pop. This isn't Carlisle. This isn't even Spo. This is a 2nd year coach coming off the worst year in the history of our franchise and game in and game out his legs stay glued to the bench. He routinely gets up at the oddest times (after a Knick player shoots his first free throw) or when he's calling Sasha's name (go figure). It's bad enough to deal with a coach whose horrendous at play calling, and even worse to see one who truly thinks we have a 10-11 man rotation. But seeing Brad Stevens pacing up and down the court, calling out plays, pointing out screens, and actually trying to be strategic had me so disappointed in what we have to deal with in Fisher. This isn't the growing pains anymore. We're not figuring things out. We simply have a coach who isn't yet ready. I know our issues are heavily predicated in our lack of guards and overall play making ability. But when you have a coach like Fisher, who refuses to have the pulse of his team it's down right sad. From where I was sitting I saw a guy whose collecting his fat pay check wearing a sharp brown suit. Dont get this twisted. Fisher is nothing more then a made guy without an actual brain. Worst part is hell most likely never been on the hot seat as he actually should be.

Thank you. This keeps being overlooked while people are making fantasy trades to save the season but Fisher, and Phil Jackson's lazy a$$ too, have brought a new level of embarrassment to NY. They look uninterested.

[mpharris36]

Schit if I was Dolan I'd be tempted to shut Porzingis down and put him in some sort of oxygenic chamber for the rest of the year and a regimen of weight lifting and fork lifting. We seriously can not have anything happen to that young man or watching this team is goink to suck.

as frustrating as this stretch has been we are in our best position asset wise and cap wise in a LONG LONG TIME.

Lopez is a easily movable piece (for draft picks)
As much as AA has been playing like trash he is a moveable piece.
We have some young guys KP, Gallo, Grant, Willy Hernangomez

If we do eventually decide to mutually part ways with Melo there would be a large return coming back our way

After this year we have all our 1st round picks

While the road to a respectable team has had its ups and downs..this isn't a quick fix and isn't all doom and gloom in my opinion. We will go on a 4 or 5 game winning streak soon and people will be excited.

Honestly Melo and KP being banged up has destroyed all our momentum. And AA playing like dooky crap also hasn't helped but Melo and KP injuries have really brought there effectiveness and energy down a notch which is hurting us.

I'm still positive because the franchise is in a decent place for the future regardless of the results this year.

[R-DAWG]

Let me start off by saying witnessing Derek Fisher live is a whole other level of embarrassment. Its one thing to watch him on TV when you can barely see the bench, but it's a whole other phenomenon when you have to suffer the agony of his laziness at MSG. This is the 6th year in a row I've had season tickets (back when posters on this board were called Abe & Paco), and seeing him refuse to get off the bench is sickening. This isn't Pop. This isn't Carlisle. This isn't even Spo. This is a 2nd year coach coming off the worst year in the history of our franchise and game in and game out his legs stay glued to the bench. He routinely gets up at the oddest times (after a Knick player shoots his first free throw) or when he's calling Sasha's name (go figure). It's bad enough to deal with a coach whose horrendous at play calling, and even worse to see one who truly thinks we have a 10-11 man rotation. But seeing Brad Stevens pacing up and down the court, calling out plays, pointing out screens, and actually trying to be strategic had me so disappointed in what we have to deal with in Fisher. This isn't the growing pains anymore. We're not figuring things out. We simply have a coach who isn't yet ready. I know our issues are heavily predicated in our lack of guards and overall play making ability. But when you have a coach like Fisher, who refuses to have the pulse of his team it's down right sad. From where I was sitting I saw a guy whose collecting his fat pay check wearing a sharp brown suit. Dont get this twisted. Fisher is nothing more then a made guy without an actual brain. Worst part is hell most likely never been on the hot seat as he actually should be.

Thank you. This keeps being overlooked while people are making fantasy trades to save the season but Fisher, and Phil Jackson's lazy a$$ too, have brought a new level of embarrassment to NY. They look uninterested.

This. Fisher has been awful and it's really time to start talking about Phil Jackson the GM and how he's been ok at best.

[Knicks_Fan2]

Celtics denied the triangle. Then we stood there and iso'd and not attack them for it.

Exactly. But everyone already knows how to stop the triangle.. the league figured it out years ago.

Seriously. It's the most basic way to set up a read/react offense with the same initial triggers that a team like Boston, with high energy athletic defenders, can easily disrupt. The league is set up in a way now where you almost are failing yourself by not running a HEAVY dose of screen/roll.

[Jay10]

Pass first guards are extinct in this current nba; if your team's lead guard has more assists than points, your team isn't winning a championship anytime soon.

[AmazingJason]

Schit if I was Dolan I'd be tempted to shut Porzingis down and put him in some sort of oxygenic chamber for the rest of the year and a regimen of weight lifting and fork lifting. We seriously can not have anything happen to that young man or watching this team is goink to suck.

It's fine. We have another exciting rookie to watch develop.

Jerian Grant.

[Fury]

KP is tired but he could never get into a rhythm cause he doesn't touch the ball like 5 mins at a time

Stop making excuses for certain guys and not for others. Melo and KP sucked tonight period. KP has for a while now.

I mentioned one guy in that post, what other guys are you talking about

[GONYK]

It isn't completely crazy to think that Ainge would give up the New Jersey pick for Melo, or that Melo would go to Boston.

Yes it is

[Knicks_Fan2]

It's been a minute since Melo really exploded for one of those huge offensive games. I know he's changed his approach this season, but I'm not gonna lie, I'm starting to think that he just might not be capable of really doing that anymore. I don't get the feeling that Melo can just go out there and drop 40. Scoring has kind of been a struggle for him a lot this season.

An unfortunate side quality of "Dad Melo" might be "Old Melo."

Another reason why we should be looking into trading Melo while we still can.

Pls note we can't do anything without his consent.

[HarthorneWingo]

Schit if I was Dolan I'd be tempted to shut Porzingis down and put him in some sort of oxygenic chamber for the rest of the year and a regimen of weight lifting and fork lifting. We seriously can not have anything happen to that young man or watching this team is goink to suck.

as frustrating as this stretch has been we are in our best position asset wise and cap wise in a LONG LONG TIME.

Lopez is a easily movable piece (for draft picks)
As much as AA has been playing like trash he is a moveable piece.
We have some young guys KP, Gallo, Grant, Willy Hernangomez

If we do eventually decide to mutually part ways with Melo there would be a large return coming back our way

After this year we have all our 1st round picks

While the road to a respectable team has had its ups and downs..this isn't a quick fix and isn't all doom and gloom in my opinion. We will go on a 4 or 5 game winning streak soon and people will be excited.

Honestly Melo and KP being banged up has destroyed all our momentum. And AA playing like dooky crap also hasn't helped but Melo and KP injuries have really brought there effectiveness and energy down a notch which is hurting us.

I'm still positive because the franchise is in a decent place for the future regardless of the results this year.

I would add Lance the "young guys" list. I hope you're right about Wily. Not sure he belongs on the list yet, tho.

I also don't know about this "large return" we would get for Melo. What do you envision that to be? I would just like to get a solid young talent and a bunch of draft picks.

[K_ick_God]

It isn't completely crazy to think that Ainge would give up the New Jersey pick for Melo, or that Melo would go to Boston.

Yes it is

Ainge has been trying for every star with no luck. Melo is only 31.

This will be Melo's third straight year without the playoffs.

Adds up to some fairly sane motivations on all sides. Maybe Ainge has no interest in Melo for a top 5 pick. But doesn't seem that far-fetched. He wants to make a run at it.

Melo going to Boston is least improbable part of it. Good team and playoffs.

[HarthorneWingo]

at least we know Sasha is our best point guard

AND shooting guard too. Sasha is great.

[GONYK]

It isn't completely crazy to think that Ainge would give up the New Jersey pick for Melo, or that Melo would go to Boston.

Yes it is

Ainge has been trying for every star with no luck. Melo is only 31.

This will be Melo's third straight year without the playoffs.

Adds up to some fairly sane motivations that cools make this less crazy than other moves that've been made.

Melo isn't leaving NY for Boston of all places, and Ainge didn't build up that stockpile to trade it for a 31 yr old with a bad knee.

It doesn't make sense for either party, without even taking into consideration why the Knicks would trade their best player within their division when we have no interest in doing a full scale rebuild

[R-DAWG]

An unfortunate side quality of "Dad Melo" might be "Old Melo."

Another reason why we should be looking into trading Melo while we still can.

Pls note we can't do anything without his consent.

Another Phil Jackson mistake. We would have been better off giving him the full max rather than like a $4 m discount over 5 years in exchange for the NTC. Melo bent the Knicks over the table. Wasn't hiring Phil Jackson supposed to prevent that?

Just hold onto the future picks because it's a bumpy road ahead.

[R-DAWG]

It isn't completely crazy to think that Ainge would give up the New Jersey pick for Melo, or that Melo would go to Boston.

Yes it is

Ainge has been trying for every star with no luck. Melo is only 31.

This will be Melo's third straight year without the playoffs.

Adds up to some fairly sane motivations on all sides. Maybe Ainge has no interest in Melo for a top 5 pick. But doesn't seem that far-fetched. He wants to make a run at it.

Melo going to Boston is least improbable part of it. Good team and playoffs.

The Melo camp will be making a lot of noise this summer. You can take that to the bank.

[GONYK]

Yes it is

Ainge has been trying for every star with no luck. Melo is only 31.

This will be Melo's third straight year without the playoffs.

Adds up to some fairly sane motivations on all sides. Maybe Ainge has no interest in Melo for a top 5 pick. But doesn't seem that far-fetched. He wants to make a run at it.

Melo going to Boston is least improbable part of it. Good team and playoffs.

The Melo camp will be making a lot of noise this summer. You can take that to the bank.

Well, that is the only way Melo can be traded, so we'll see. I personally think winning 35-38 games this season will be fine for both Melo and the FO.

I look forward to "The Melo camp" trying to find a big market contender who has enough picks and young players to make it worth our while, while also matching Melo's salary and still having enough talent left over to still be contenders.

Hell, I would just like to know which big market contenders would have all that, and still feel they need 31 yr old Melo.