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god shammgod wrote:i could keep repeating every point i've ever made about phil and fish but why bother. i don't even care about this year, i'm worried about next year. there's only 2 things that are gonna fix all this.
1 - some top free agent joins us this summer.
2 - they get rid of everyone in charge and get a new coach/gm to come fix all of this
i'm actually expecting this though
3 - suck again
thebuzzardman wrote:delvec19 wrote:We are really throwing Grant out the window after only half of a rookie season? Jesus.
He just needs more time, just like Frank Williams, Mardy Collins and Toney Douglas did.
delvec19 wrote:We are really throwing Grant out the window after only half of a rookie season? Jesus.
KnicksGod wrote:The 3-way with Clips would be Melo's and Danny's preference but I don't think Clips will deal Blake for Melo. Knicks could take back a bad Boston contract to help try to seal it with Stunned Ainge, who would have to think he could play Crowder and Melo together.
Not sure Ainge bites, but not crazy to think he could. On Melo, I think some of you are way too sure he wants New York or a big market at all costs. I strongly disagree lol. He's losing and has no shot at the playoffs -- he would take an out honestly. Just to a good team to finish this contract with. Over staying in NY out of the playoffs? Yeah, definitely yes.
JXL wrote:god shammgod wrote:i could keep repeating every point i've ever made about phil and fish but why bother. i don't even care about this year, i'm worried about next year. there's only 2 things that are gonna fix all this.
1 - some top free agent joins us this summer.
2 - they get rid of everyone in charge and get a new coach/gm to come fix all of this
i'm actually expecting this though
3 - suck again
You must hate life.
delvec19 wrote:thebuzzardman wrote:delvec19 wrote:We are really throwing Grant out the window after only half of a rookie season? Jesus.
He just needs more time, just like Frank Williams, Mardy Collins and Toney Douglas did.
typical angry knick fan response
wang000hk wrote:delvec19 wrote:We are really throwing Grant out the window after only half of a rookie season? Jesus.
He's getting outplayed by Sasha now,that's how bad he really is
I still dont get how some fans keep defending him using rookie excuse
If he had potential to be good,he should have been getting the starting job already
Fact is that he isn't even a NBA player at this point and should spend some time in d-league
Gallo starts despite not being a true PG because he actually plays like a NBA player,Grant isn't
I'm not counting the games in which he padded his stats in garbage time,he only has 1 good game all season long
Keep defending the rookie,he's one of the reasons why the bench always blew the lead in 4th quarter
and all the Knicks fan keep crying about **** guard rotation
He's even worse than Jose and that's saying something
Heck,I think Phil didn't re-sign Shved because he thought Grant's ready to contribute as he spent 5 years in college
But no,he is wrong,he made a big mistake in not re-signing Shved
KnicksGod wrote:The 3-way with Clips would be Melo's and Danny's preference but I don't think Clips will deal Blake for Melo. Knicks could take back a bad Boston contract to help try to seal it with Stunned Ainge, who would have to think he could play Crowder and Melo together.
Not sure Ainge bites, but not crazy to think he could. On Melo, I think some of you are way too sure he wants New York or a big market at all costs. I strongly disagree lol. He's losing and has no shot at the playoffs -- he would take an out honestly. Just to a good team to finish this contract with. Over staying in NY out of the playoffs? Yeah, definitely yes.
Sark wrote:Boston would never trade their picks for Melo. They're a young up and coming team. They have no use for a 31 year old player.
Knicksfan1992 wrote:Honestly the only thing that makes me less mad/harsh about Grant is that THard has pretty much 1 foot out of the league at this point and has zero trade value. Grant still might have a little value left or could snap out of this.
thebuzzardman wrote:delvec19 wrote:We are really throwing Grant out the window after only half of a rookie season? Jesus.
He just needs more time, just like Frank Williams, Mardy Collins and Toney Douglas did.
GONYK wrote:Knicksfan1992 wrote:Honestly the only thing that makes me less mad/harsh about Grant is that THard has pretty much 1 foot out of the league at this point and has zero trade value. Grant still might have a little value left or could snap out of this.
Another thing is that whenever we play to Grant's strength, which is PnR, he has succeeded.
His best games have come when he's allowed to run the high PnR
Deeeez Knicks wrote:Things are not that bad. We are still above .500 when Melo plays.
Unfortunately, Melo has been getting banged up, KP has slowed down a little and the east is deep this year.
We are on the right track though. KP/Melo/Lopez is a solid core. Just need to upgrade the backcourt and head coach. It takes time.
god shammgod wrote:every time the knicks lose a bunch of games we're trading melo. except we're not. i'm not even commenting on what the best thing to do is for the future or not. but it's just not happening. not this year.
NYKnicksTAPE wrote:wang000hk wrote:delvec19 wrote:We are really throwing Grant out the window after only half of a rookie season? Jesus.
He's getting outplayed by Sasha now,that's how bad he really is
I still dont get how some fans keep defending him using rookie excuse
If he had potential to be good,he should have been getting the starting job already
Fact is that he isn't even a NBA player at this point and should spend some time in d-league
Gallo starts despite not being a true PG because he actually plays like a NBA player,Grant isn't
I'm not counting the games in which he padded his stats in garbage time,he only has 1 good game all season long
Keep defending the rookie,he's one of the reasons why the bench always blew the lead in 4th quarter
and all the Knicks fan keep crying about **** guard rotation
He's even worse than Jose and that's saying something
Heck,I think Phil didn't re-sign Shved because he thought Grant's ready to contribute as he spent 5 years in college
But no,he is wrong,he made a big mistake in not re-signing Shved
It's always everybody else's fault but Grant's for his bad play. I've never seen so many excuses made for a single player in my entire life. Yeah, Grant is a rookie, but he's an old rookie. He was a 5 year college player who played for a good program and played in big games. He's not some player that's coming straight out of high school. He should've been way more NBA ready than this.
god shammgod wrote:GONYK wrote:Knicksfan1992 wrote:Honestly the only thing that makes me less mad/harsh about Grant is that THard has pretty much 1 foot out of the league at this point and has zero trade value. Grant still might have a little value left or could snap out of this.
Another thing is that whenever we play to Grant's strength, which is PnR, he has succeeded.
His best games have come when he's allowed to run the high PnR
i forget what game it was.....maybe it was boston last time. but there was one game where they were constantly screening for him at the start of every possession and it worked fantastically. but we never seem to repeat what works.