Leap Year - The Kemba Walker Thread III

jtsmith · Post #1301 » by **jtsmith** » Wed Feb 3, 2016 10:40 pm

Damn. I guess signing with Jordan doesn't mean much

Post #1302 » by **yosemiteben** » Wed Feb 3, 2016 11:03 pm

Apparently Kemba had a MAGNETIC RESONANCE IMAGING scan today.

Braggins · Post #1303 » by **Braggins** » Wed Feb 3, 2016 11:36 pm

yosemiteben wrote:Apparently Kemba had a MAGNETIC RESONANCE IMAGING scan today.

I was wondering about this. The situation scares the crap out of me. This is how it started last year. One day we hear he needs to sit out with knee soreness and the next thing you know we find out he needs surgery. Hopefully we hear more soon. If this ends up being serious then I'm going to assume that this franchise is literally cursed.

leeramundo · Post #1304 » by **leeramundo** » Thu Feb 4, 2016 2:42 am

Braggins wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:Apparently Kemba had a MAGNETIC RESONANCE IMAGING scan today.

I was wondering about this. The situation scares the crap out of me. This is how it started last year. One day we hear he needs to sit out with knee soreness and the next thing you know we find out he needs surgery. Hopefully we hear more soon. If this ends up being serious then I'm going to assume that this franchise is literally cursed.

That would mean fate has it that we had to suffer injury after injury all season, only to have to deal with the worst one of all just when everyone else is coming back.

Braggins · Post #1305 » by **Braggins** » Thu Feb 4, 2016 3:11 am

From the Observer

"Kemba Walker had an MRI on his sore left knee, Clifford said, and no structural damage was discovered. The coach is hopeful Walker will be able to play Friday against the Miami Heat. “The big thing is he’s sore,” Clifford said. “He was really sore and he’s played a lot of minutes, obviously, and has gotten a lot of attention.”"

We should be pretty close to full strength pretty soon. Get hyped.

Post #1306 » by **BigSlam** » Thu Feb 4, 2016 3:15 am

Pity it's not Wednesday night next week. Kemba could use a rest and a chance to get back to 100%.

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BlackOutBuzz · Post #1307 » by **BlackOutBuzz** » Thu Feb 4, 2016 3:16 am

Braggins wrote:MRI

How I knew Bonnell didn't write that.

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bws94 · Post #1308 » by **bws94** » Thu Feb 4, 2016 8:36 pm

It looks like he's feeling better and will play on Friday night vs. Miami.

ChokeFasncists · Post #1309 » by **ChokeFasncists** » Fri Feb 5, 2016 7:19 am

Braggins wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:Apparently Kemba had a MAGNETIC RESONANCE IMAGING scan today.

I was wondering about this. The situation scares the crap out of me. This is how it started last year. One day we hear he needs to sit out with knee soreness and the next thing you know we find out he needs surgery. Hopefully we hear more soon. If this ends up being serious then I'm going to assume that this franchise is literally cursed.

Well, so far it looks like this year isn't the same as last year!

Why does it have to be a controversy every time Lin has a good game. When Kemba scores 50, or 40, or has one of his numerous 30 point games, the Kemba fans don't come on here and be like "suk it Lin fans Kemba is tha truth Lin neva getting off da bench!".

One must admit that winning in 2OT against the Jazz is nothing compared to beating King James and his refs soundly, breaking a 21 games losing streak.

And it has nothing to do with Kemba fans either; it's not a feud or anything like that. Kemba is the better scorer and Lin is the better passer; it's a fact, there's no controversy. One'd be better off seeing it in a team perspective rather than personal.

DY_nasty · Post #1310 » by **DY_nasty** » Fri Feb 5, 2016 8:20 am

^pretty much

kemba can score, cool. i don't think he's been able to really play pg at all since al's first year here. its more on the franchise for giving him crutches in mcbob and diaw instead of letting him learn like every other rookie pg. if its not a set, he's probably not looking at anything other than the rim.

dude can drop 50 pt games and still not make an all-star game because why? its obvious to everyone. didn't think it was some horrific allegation or something. he is what he is. and i think people have been watching him so long here that they've forgotten what real nba pgs are actually supposed to do

Braggins · Post #1311 » by **Braggins** » Fri Feb 5, 2016 12:38 pm

Come on... Kemba's 50 point game was easily a better individual performance than Lin's individual performance against the Cavs. The win against the Cavs was a team victory and not Lin's victory. MKG had more to do with us winning that game than anything.

Braggins · Post #1312 » by **Braggins** » Fri Feb 5, 2016 12:40 pm

DY_nasty wrote:^pretty much
dude can drop 50 pt games and still not make an all-star game because why? its obvious to everyone.

I think its obvious to everyone who isn't just looking to bash Kemba that he didn't make the all-star team because our team hasn't been good enough and there were other guards playing as well or better. I'm not sure what you are even implying here.

Bassman · Post #1313 » by **Bassman** » Fri Feb 5, 2016 1:03 pm

Kemba is not a true PG, and never will be. He will always be a defensive liability. He is a dynamic player who can either win games or lose them by himself, depending on his shooting that night. When penetrating he can be disruptive to defenses, but his creativity is limited. Surrounded by better players, his weaknesses can be marginalized a bit. As of now he is one of few players that can load the team on his shoulders and win a game.

gafun · Post #1314 » by **gafun** » Fri Feb 5, 2016 1:15 pm

I think Kemba and Frank are MJ's core players as well as MKG for next 3 -5 years. He will not trade them. Enjoy tonight's game.

I hope Batum recover soon physically and on the performance too. We can make the playoffs with healthy starters (MKG replace Pj) + jeremys/frank.

DY_nasty · Post #1315 » by **DY_nasty** » Fri Feb 5, 2016 2:23 pm

Braggins wrote:
DY_nasty wrote:^pretty much
dude can drop 50 pt games and still not make an all-star game because why? its obvious to everyone.

I think its obvious to everyone who isn't just looking to bash Kemba that he didn't make the all-star team because our team hasn't been good enough and there were other guards playing as well or better. I'm not sure what you are even implying here.

man lol

the narrative for kemba making the all-star team was already in place. "undersized uconn hero from the tournament finds a way to keep the charlotte hornets in the playoff hunt despite injuries at every position to his team. huge scoring nights, heart, and a leadership that's just not common anywhere in sports. blah blah fluff blah". Its easy. You gotta work hard to have 50 point nights, average his numbers, and be left out for a guy like IT.

he can't (or refuses to) play d, is consistent as hell, and gets no one in any kind of rhythm ever

am i wrong? i've been consistent on the guy even when he's playing well. he's just the bare minimum of a pg. the team needs a real one. (and no, i'm not saying lin is the future or anything like that)

again, i think that people here have forgot what quality pg play is and does for a team.

LofJ · Post #1316 » by **LofJ** » Fri Feb 5, 2016 2:39 pm

A quality PG means everything for an offense. The Clippers are a prime example. They were garbage with Deandre Jordan, Blake Griffin, and a healthy Eric Gordon all on the team. They didn't turn the corner until they traded for Chris Paul. Lowry in Toronto is another great example.

That said with the passing and shooting we added this past offseason we should be able to have a decent offense despite Kemba's shortcomings. That goes out the window though if we lose Batum.

Braggins · Post #1317 » by **Braggins** » Fri Feb 5, 2016 3:10 pm

DY_nasty wrote:
Braggins wrote:
DY_nasty wrote:^pretty much
dude can drop 50 pt games and still not make an all-star game because why? its obvious to everyone.

I think its obvious to everyone who isn't just looking to bash Kemba that he didn't make the all-star team because our team hasn't been good enough and there were other guards playing as well or better. I'm not sure what you are even implying here.

man lol

the narrative for kemba making the all-star team was already in place. "undersized uconn hero from the tournament finds a way to keep the charlotte hornets in the playoff hunt despite injuries at every position to his team. huge scoring nights, heart, and a leadership that's just not common anywhere in sports. blah blah fluff blah". Its easy. You gotta work hard to have 50 point nights, average his numbers, and be left out for a guy like IT.

he can't (or refuses to) play d, is consistent as hell, and gets no one in any kind of rhythm ever

am i wrong? i've been consistent on the guy even when he's playing well. he's just the bare minimum of a pg. the team needs a real one. (and no, i'm not saying lin is the future or anything like that)

again, i think that people here have forgot what quality pg play is and does for a team.

This is obnoxiously ignorant. No one has said anything related to the narrative you described. The narrative for him making the all-star team was that he is averaging 20/4/5/2 with a 20per and 54ts%. IT is averaging 20 and 7 and his team has performed better. There is no shame in losing out to him. Its pretty desperate that you are trying to use Kemba being in a the discussion for the all-star game as a negative against him because he ultimately didn't make it...

He doesn't refuse to play defense and he has had good chemistry with multiple players in his fairly short career. So yes, you are obviously wrong when you say something like "gets no one in any kind of rhythm ever". I'm not even saying he is great at traditional pg stuff but you are obviously using hyberbole.

I think its pretty obvious that you are butt hurt that Kemba has played really well this season after you bashed him endlessly the last couple years and deemed him hopeless, so you now pile on as much as you can whenever he is in a slump to try to save face. You're only convincing a few Lin fans, but keep up the good fight. There is still time for him to tank his FG% by the end of the season.

Braggins · Post #1318 » by **Braggins** » Fri Feb 5, 2016 3:12 pm

LofJ wrote:A quality PG means everything for an offense. The Clippers are a prime example. They were garbage with Deandre Jordan, Blake Griffin, and a healthy Eric Gordon all on the team. They didn't turn the corner until they traded for Chris Paul. Lowry in Toronto is another great example.

That said with the passing and shooting we added this past offseason we should be able to have a decent offense despite Kemba's shortcomings. That goes out the window though if we lose Batum.

Our offense has been good pretty much all season, despite the shortcomings of many of our players, including but not exclusively Kemba.

DY_nasty · Post #1319 » by **DY_nasty** » Fri Feb 5, 2016 3:24 pm

Braggins wrote:
DY_nasty wrote:
Braggins wrote:I think its obvious to everyone who isn't just looking to bash Kemba that he didn't make the all-star team because our team hasn't been good enough and there were other guards playing as well or better. I'm not sure what you are even implying here.

man lol

the narrative for kemba making the all-star team was already in place. "undersized uconn hero from the tournament finds a way to keep the charlotte hornets in the playoff hunt despite injuries at every position to his team. huge scoring nights, heart, and a leadership that's just not common anywhere in sports. blah blah fluff blah". Its easy. You gotta work hard to have 50 point nights, average his numbers, and be left out for a guy like IT.

he can't (or refuses to) play d, is consistent as hell, and gets no one in any kind of rhythm ever

am i wrong? i've been consistent on the guy even when he's playing well. he's just the bare minimum of a pg. the team needs a real one. (and no, i'm not saying lin is the future or anything like that)

again, i think that people here have forgot what quality pg play is and does for a team.

This is obnoxiously ignorant. No one has said anything related to the narrative you described. The narrative for him making the all-star team was that he is averaging 20/4/5/2 with a 20per and 54ts%. IT is averaging 20 and 7 and his team has performed better. There is no shame in losing out to him. Its pretty desperate that you are trying to use Kemba being in a the discussion for the all-star game as a negative against him because he ultimately didn't make it...

He doesn't refuse to play defense and he has had good chemistry with multiple players in his fairly short career. So yes, you are obviously wrong when you say something like "gets no one in any kind of rhythm ever". I'm not even saying he is great at traditional pg stuff but you are obviously using hyberbole.

I think its pretty obvious that you are butt hurt that Kemba has played really well this season after you bashed him endlessly the last couple years and deemed him hopeless, so you now pile on as much as you can whenever he is in a slump to try to save face. You're only convincing a few Lin fans, but keep up the good fight. There is still time for him to tank his FG% by the end of the season.

eh?

its a negative against him because .... it should be? lol

kemba's been horrible on d all year long too. i didn't even think that was up for debate. but cool. let if fly.

i like to think i hate on everyone pretty evenly given their roles on the team, and give credit where due as well (i spent most of last year crapping on clifford but now i praise him at every chance, i'm really impartial on hawes, was down on lamb before it was cool, etc)

its not like i get cookies for this :roll:

maybe

i dont know

tell me how kemba's an even average defender this year. lets just start there. hey remember the good old days when kemba would shoot like crap but still play great man defense and scrap for a full 48? yeah me too. wish more people would call him out on it. you should too. it won't hurt.

LofJ · Post #1320 » by **LofJ** » Fri Feb 5, 2016 3:26 pm

Braggins wrote:
LofJ wrote:A quality PG means everything for an offense. The Clippers are a prime example. They were garbage with Deandre Jordan, Blake Griffin, and a healthy Eric Gordon all on the team. They didn't turn the corner until they traded for Chris Paul. Lowry in Toronto is another great example.

That said with the passing and shooting we added this past offseason we should be able to have a decent offense despite Kemba's shortcomings. That goes out the window though if we lose Batum.

Our offense has been good pretty much all season, despite the shortcomings of many of our players, including but not exclusively Kemba.

Our offense has been good because we addressed our biggest weaknesses in the offseason - passing and shooting. You're right that it wasn't exclusively Kemba's fault (MKG and Hendo say hello). But you're delusional if you don't think that Kemba has contributed to our struggles to move the ball.