Trade deadline predictions

[deanwoof]

Evan Fournier for Meyers Leonard.
Followed by a CJ McCollum for a big man trade

[Ell Curry]

I hear what you are saying and its been a consistent theme from Jazz fans on here. So I realize this isn't a very good prediction.

But my thinking is that Utah needs to be looking at using up some of their picks because they don't need to add many more young guys. But more importantly Utah has a bunch of core guys that are going to need big contracts starting 2 summers from now. So finding guys on deals that end by 2018 should be their strategy. It will be harder to get those guys via free agency with other teams being willing to give longer deals so the trade route is the way to go.

And I think the Hawks aren't going to find a lot of interested teams willing to give more value and if they are truly committing to Dennis, this deal makes sense as Burke makes a good compliment to him off the bench plus a pick that should be in the teens.

Utah seems comfortable drafting foreign players, though, so they can just use their 2016 pick on a Euro, stash him for a year or 2 and still get 4 years of cheap backup play.

[Ell Curry]

Novak and McGary for PJ Tucker

This make a lot of sense. Phoenix can then trade Markieff or not match a big offer for Jon Leuer with McGary in the fold, and OKC gets a guy who can play the 3 when they go small or play the 2 against the Spurs (can he stay with Klay?) if Dion Waiters loses his mind or gets into existentialism or whatever else he has cooked up after his relative sanity in recent months.

[Hawk Eye]

It's almost nearly impossible to predict trades down to a tee. So I will try to make these predictions a little more simplified.

- Boston will trade David Lee for an expiring or cap space. I could see him going to Portland and Ainge attaching a top 55 protected 2nd to him.

- I think a current playoff team looking to be a real contender is going to make a big move for Ryan Anderson's services. Perhaps the Raps will make a move for him and give up their NYK/DEN 1st or their own 1st for him to go all in. Other teams I could see him going to are Memphis, Indiana, Detroit, Washington, and Boston.

- The suns are going to trade Morris and Tucker. If not both, I definitely think one of them will get moved. Hard to say where at the moment..maybe SVG makes a call to unite the Morri bros.? I could see OKC acquiring Tucker since they have been rumored to be looking for another wing. Maybe they give up on Waiters and PHX takes a look at him?

- Atlanta will finish out the schedule pre AS break strong and Bud will think we have "found it" which will result in us standing pat. Plus, I think Bud is to close to our group of guys and has to strong of a relationship with them to trade any of our starters. So despite all of the rumors coming from ATL recently, I don't see us making any moves.

- I think the nets will look to trade Joe Johnson or possibly reach a buyout with him. They may trade Thad Young for Jennnings since Jack is out.

- If Butlers knee injury is serious i could see the Bulls shopping for a replacement. Maybe Afflalo? Joakim Noah for Eric Gordon? I'm not sure they'd be willing to deal that SAC pick though.

- The rockets seem to always create a buzz around the deadline. Not sure what their needs are but I could see them trading Terrence Jones, Lawson, or Montijunas. I don't see Dwight going anywhere.

- Teams I don't see making a lot of noise or any moves are Utah, Golden State, Spurs, Cleveland, Minnesota, Dallas, and Denver

[Ell Curry]

Knicks Trade:

Carmelo Anthony


Get:

2016 1st round pick from the Brooklyn Nets
David Lee
Lance Stephenson



Celtics Trade:

2016 1st round pick from the Brooklyn Nets
2016 1st round pick from the Dallas Mavericks
David Lee
Jonas Jerebko


Get:

Blake Griffin



Clippers Trade:

Blake Griffin
Lance Stephenson


Get:

Carmelo Anthony
2016 1st round pick from the Dallas Mavericks
Jonas Jerebko

This is real solid, but I got a suggestion.

I think the edit here is that Doc won't want a 1st rounder as much as other teams will if he's going all in by trading 27 year old Blake for 31 year old Carmelo. So, I'd make it a 4 teamer and have the pick go to team X and a cheap contributor go the Clippers. Looking at their roster post-trade, they'd probably start Paul-Redick-Melo-Jerebko-DJ with an awful bench of Rivers/Prigioni-Crawford-Wes Johnson-Pierce-Aldrich, so really any decent player gets time there.

Not sure who that would be. I guess it would depend on how Doc rates those bench players and where he thinks the Clips are weakest, and what the market for the 19th pick would be. Maybe Jerebko + Prigioni + 19th pick for Ryan Anderson?

[Ell Curry]

Do dreams count?

if so, Chandler Parsons for Al Horford. They can also have Jenkins back if they'd like.

Maybe add Powell to that since Atlanta would need a big to make up some of Horford's minutes, and Horford would be playing the backup 4 minutes anyways since Zaza is playing well for 30 a game. Even if that goes down to 26, that's only 22 for Horford at the 5 meaning he's playing 12-14 of the minutes Dirk ain't on the court at the 4, which will only be about 12-14 minutes anyways come the playoffs.

[Walmart]

I would do a trade around Parsons for Horford in a heartbeat if I were Dallas.

I think Rudy Gay is gone from the Kings and I'll say he ends up with Brooklyn for a deal around Thad Young.

[cammac]

Since the Raptors became interested? Great to see people finally acknowledging PJ Tucker as a real value piece.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/240665/Raptors-Interested-In-Trading-For-PJ-Tucker-Markieff-Morris

No one is getting to upgrade their team at two key spots where all they have to give up is a super late 1st. The Raptors have a serious weakness at PF and Morris would help immediately. DeMarre Carroll is injured and aging so Tucker would act as a great insurance policy, and adding another 3&D guy is always a good thing. A move like this makes a ton of sense for the Raptors.

we've been doing okay without them and they'll be back for the playoffs anyways. markieff may have been worth a lottery pick last year but his value has plummeted. not to mention he's an iso player, that takes a bunch of mid range jumpers and is average to below average defensively... we don't need any of that. we'd like to have him, sure, but not at the expense of adding a high ceiling young guy on a rookie contract.

tucker is the one we'd be interested in and he's definitely not worth a lottery pick

That's funny cause Tucker is the one who has more value right now. If you can acknowledge Morris was worth a lottery pick a few years ago then you must also acknowledge his talent. I don't know why you keep on insisting he's an iso only player. He's not. He has it in his locker but if you have a system in place Morris can function just fine. Because what the Raptors are playing at PF right now is kind of laughable. I know you're 2nd in the east but that doesn't mean you stand a chance against the Cavs in the playoffs. Even if you want to play Carroll at PF that would mean Terrance Ross is getting minutes, which is rarely a good thing.

I just think the combined talent spike the Raptors would get from Morris+Tucker gives this team a serious upgrade that's worth the Knicks pick. Any serious upgrade and teams are going to require that Knicks pick. If you can do a deal that doesn't require the Knicks pick, then what's the point? It clearly won't move the needle for this team anyway, so just stick with what you have.

My friend Patterson has been disappointing offensively this year but is still a threat with his 3PT shot. Plus Patterson is much better defensively than Markieff which to the Raptors is more important. Tucker might have a interest for the Raptors at the right price since Carroll & JJ are both injured but Masai has a poor relationship with your GM so a deal is unlikely.

[Ell Curry]

I think Memphis thinks Conley is leaving and they know they aren't as good as their record (22nd on O, 17th on D ain't ****), but the only Conley deal I can think of is Conley for Dragic, since it's a nice fit for Miami with Conley playing next to Wade and giving them better off the ball play and D, and Memphis gets a locked in Euro to pass with Gasol for the next 4 years. Riley would be confident he can either retain Conley or use the cap space to go get Durant.

[Cappy_Smurf]

Teague to Utah for Burke/2016 UTH 1st(mild protections)

I could see something like this happening, but, I really doubt it. Jazz are on their first 3 game win streak, Raul Neto just played the best game of his rookie year. The way things are going I think the Jazz are going to be content to just play out the season with the guys they have. I doubt if they will be willing to move their own first (with mild protections) for a stopgap guy at any rate. I am not even sure they'd give up one of their lesser first rounders.

If they can get some help for a 2nd and cap space I think they'll consider it, but, I don't believe they are feeling any pressure to fix the roster this year, so I doubt that they'll be moving any 1sts, preferring instead to develop their own guys.

I hear what you are saying and its been a consistent theme from Jazz fans on here. So I realize this isn't a very good prediction.

But my thinking is that Utah needs to be looking at using up some of their picks because they don't need to add many more young guys. But more importantly Utah has a bunch of core guys that are going to need big contracts starting 2 summers from now. So finding guys on deals that end by 2018 should be their strategy. It will be harder to get those guys via free agency with other teams being willing to give longer deals so the trade route is the way to go.

And I think the Hawks aren't going to find a lot of interested teams willing to give more value and if they are truly committing to Dennis, this deal makes sense as Burke makes a good compliment to him off the bench plus a pick that should be in the teens.

I think it's a very good prediction. Personally, I think Jazz fans are underestimating the pressure our FO is feeling with Hayward's UFA coming up. I also don't believe they want to pay Trey Burke who's future role should be for about no more than 15 mpg as a backup. If it doesn't happen, it will be because Atlanta wants more than Utah is willing to pay, not because our FO is just being patient, like they try to sell the fans.

[tradejunkie101]

we've been doing okay without them and they'll be back for the playoffs anyways. markieff may have been worth a lottery pick last year but his value has plummeted. not to mention he's an iso player, that takes a bunch of mid range jumpers and is average to below average defensively... we don't need any of that. we'd like to have him, sure, but not at the expense of adding a high ceiling young guy on a rookie contract.

tucker is the one we'd be interested in and he's definitely not worth a lottery pick

That's funny cause Tucker is the one who has more value right now. If you can acknowledge Morris was worth a lottery pick a few years ago then you must also acknowledge his talent. I don't know why you keep on insisting he's an iso only player. He's not. He has it in his locker but if you have a system in place Morris can function just fine. Because what the Raptors are playing at PF right now is kind of laughable. I know you're 2nd in the east but that doesn't mean you stand a chance against the Cavs in the playoffs. Even if you want to play Carroll at PF that would mean Terrance Ross is getting minutes, which is rarely a good thing.

I just think the combined talent spike the Raptors would get from Morris+Tucker gives this team a serious upgrade that's worth the Knicks pick. Any serious upgrade and teams are going to require that Knicks pick. If you can do a deal that doesn't require the Knicks pick, then what's the point? It clearly won't move the needle for this team anyway, so just stick with what you have.

My friend Patterson has been disappointing offensively this year but is still a threat with his 3PT shot. Plus Patterson is much better defensively than Markieff which to the Raptors is more important. Tucker might have a interest for the Raptors at the right price since Carroll & JJ are both injured but Masai has a poor relationship with your GM so a deal is unlikely.

Masai has a poor relationship with McD? Do you have a link to an article or something? I'm not a Suns fan by the way. I don't know where you go the idea than Patterson is a better defender/3 point shooter either. Now that he's being featured in the offense again, people will begin to remember how good Morris really is.

[jredsaz]

we've been doing okay without them and they'll be back for the playoffs anyways. markieff may have been worth a lottery pick last year but his value has plummeted. not to mention he's an iso player, that takes a bunch of mid range jumpers and is average to below average defensively... we don't need any of that. we'd like to have him, sure, but not at the expense of adding a high ceiling young guy on a rookie contract.

tucker is the one we'd be interested in and he's definitely not worth a lottery pick

That's funny cause Tucker is the one who has more value right now. If you can acknowledge Morris was worth a lottery pick a few years ago then you must also acknowledge his talent. I don't know why you keep on insisting he's an iso only player. He's not. He has it in his locker but if you have a system in place Morris can function just fine. Because what the Raptors are playing at PF right now is kind of laughable. I know you're 2nd in the east but that doesn't mean you stand a chance against the Cavs in the playoffs. Even if you want to play Carroll at PF that would mean Terrance Ross is getting minutes, which is rarely a good thing.

I just think the combined talent spike the Raptors would get from Morris+Tucker gives this team a serious upgrade that's worth the Knicks pick. Any serious upgrade and teams are going to require that Knicks pick. If you can do a deal that doesn't require the Knicks pick, then what's the point? It clearly won't move the needle for this team anyway, so just stick with what you have.

My friend Patterson has been disappointing offensively this year but is still a threat with his 3PT shot. Plus Patterson is much better defensively than Markieff which to the Raptors is more important. Tucker might have a interest for the Raptors at the right price since Carroll & JJ are both injured but Masai has a poor relationship with your GM so a deal is unlikely.

Nothing supports the fact that Patterson is a much better defender. Similar block, steal and rebound rates to Morris. Moriss also has the better career Drtg and DWS.

DRPM from last year has Morris as the 6th most effective PF in the NBA and Patterson listed at 72. In a season where both Morris and the Suns have fallen off a cliff due to a variety of factors, both players are still ranked in the 60's in DRPM.

[cammac]

That's funny cause Tucker is the one who has more value right now. If you can acknowledge Morris was worth a lottery pick a few years ago then you must also acknowledge his talent. I don't know why you keep on insisting he's an iso only player. He's not. He has it in his locker but if you have a system in place Morris can function just fine. Because what the Raptors are playing at PF right now is kind of laughable. I know you're 2nd in the east but that doesn't mean you stand a chance against the Cavs in the playoffs. Even if you want to play Carroll at PF that would mean Terrance Ross is getting minutes, which is rarely a good thing.

I just think the combined talent spike the Raptors would get from Morris+Tucker gives this team a serious upgrade that's worth the Knicks pick. Any serious upgrade and teams are going to require that Knicks pick. If you can do a deal that doesn't require the Knicks pick, then what's the point? It clearly won't move the needle for this team anyway, so just stick with what you have.

My friend Patterson has been disappointing offensively this year but is still a threat with his 3PT shot. Plus Patterson is much better defensively than Markieff which to the Raptors is more important. Tucker might have a interest for the Raptors at the right price since Carroll & JJ are both injured but Masai has a poor relationship with your GM so a deal is unlikely.

Masai has a poor relationship with McD? Do you have a link to an article or something? I'm not a Suns fan by the way. I don't know where you go the idea than Patterson is a better defender/3 point shooter either. Now that he's being featured in the offense again, people will begin to remember how good Morris really is.

Goes back to 2014 draft where Masai was looking at drafting Ennis at 20 and Phoenix took him and tried to trade Ennis for Ross & 20th. Obviously Masai passed and took Bruno but Masai doesn't forget. On Patterson if you look he has a high + & - even though offensively he hasn't been productive offensively. Markieff had one good game now he is world class he just isn't a good fit on the Raptors.

[tradejunkie101]

My friend Patterson has been disappointing offensively this year but is still a threat with his 3PT shot. Plus Patterson is much better defensively than Markieff which to the Raptors is more important. Tucker might have a interest for the Raptors at the right price since Carroll & JJ are both injured but Masai has a poor relationship with your GM so a deal is unlikely.

Masai has a poor relationship with McD? Do you have a link to an article or something? I'm not a Suns fan by the way. I don't know where you go the idea than Patterson is a better defender/3 point shooter either. Now that he's being featured in the offense again, people will begin to remember how good Morris really is.

Goes back to 2014 draft where Masai was looking at drafting Ennis at 20 and Phoenix took him and tried to trade Ennis for Ross & 20th. Obviously Masai passed and took Bruno but Masai doesn't forget. On Patterson if you look he has a high + & - even though offensively he hasn't been productive offensively. Markieff had one good game now he is world class he just isn't a good fit on the Raptors.

Yeah, I don't think we can use that kind of speculation and take it as fact that Masai will refuse to deal with McD in the future. Its a business. On Patterson, Morris has had better defensive stats and ratings over multiple years.

[cammac]

Masai has a poor relationship with McD? Do you have a link to an article or something? I'm not a Suns fan by the way. I don't know where you go the idea than Patterson is a better defender/3 point shooter either. Now that he's being featured in the offense again, people will begin to remember how good Morris really is.

Goes back to 2014 draft where Masai was looking at drafting Ennis at 20 and Phoenix took him and tried to trade Ennis for Ross & 20th. Obviously Masai passed and took Bruno but Masai doesn't forget. On Patterson if you look he has a high + & - even though offensively he hasn't been productive offensively. Markieff had one good game now he is world class he just isn't a good fit on the Raptors.

Yeah, I don't think we can use that kind of speculation and take it as fact that Masai will refuse to deal with McD in the future. Its a business. On Patterson, Morris has had better defensive stats and ratings over multiple years.

Morris is a defensive sieve and yes Masai will deal with anyone on a good deal but Masai tends to get extra value in his trades. Simply don't see the fit.

[Frank Nova]

Evan Fournier for Meyers Leonard.
Followed by a CJ McCollum for a big man trade

McCollum for Monroe?

[damecurry]

Teague to Utah for Burke/2016 UTH 1st(mild protections)

I could see something like this happening, but, I really doubt it. Jazz are on their first 3 game win streak, Raul Neto just played the best game of his rookie year. The way things are going I think the Jazz are going to be content to just play out the season with the guys they have. I doubt if they will be willing to move their own first (with mild protections) for a stopgap guy at any rate. I am not even sure they'd give up one of their lesser first rounders.

If they can get some help for a 2nd and cap space I think they'll consider it, but, I don't believe they are feeling any pressure to fix the roster this year, so I doubt that they'll be moving any 1sts, preferring instead to develop their own guys.

I hear what you are saying and its been a consistent theme from Jazz fans on here. So I realize this isn't a very good prediction.

But my thinking is that Utah needs to be looking at using up some of their picks because they don't need to add many more young guys. But more importantly Utah has a bunch of core guys that are going to need big contracts starting 2 summers from now. So finding guys on deals that end by 2018 should be their strategy. It will be harder to get those guys via free agency with other teams being willing to give longer deals so the trade route is the way to go.

And I think the Hawks aren't going to find a lot of interested teams willing to give more value and if they are truly committing to Dennis, this deal makes sense as Burke makes a good compliment to him off the bench plus a pick that should be in the teens.

I agree the Jazz should move some 1sts for good talent and Teague is that, but I think he's a terrible fit for their roster. He's not an elite distributor/creator, solid but not great, and he doesn't shoot well enough. If they're gonna give up real assets to improve now it has to be a good fit which for pg means a really good shooter and Teague's not that. George Hill would actually make more sense imo.

[Blazinaway]

Evan Fournier for Meyers Leonard.
Followed by a CJ McCollum for a big man trade

McCollum for Monroe?

not a chance IMO, that is a big overpay by POR, Monroe's value IMO is slightly positive and after half a season the Bucks are already done with him? No thanks, and Blazers need a rim protector, not another defensive sieve

[damecurry]

Evan Fournier for Meyers Leonard.
Followed by a CJ McCollum for a big man trade

McCollum for Monroe?

Straight up? Hell no. Monroe's not a rim-protector which is the main thing we'd want/need for the C position. Actually be more inclined to get Henson but neither of those guys is worth nearly as much as CJ imo.

[Prokorov]

I would do a trade around Parsons for Horford in a heartbeat if I were Dallas.

I think Rudy Gay is gone from the Kings and I'll say he ends up with Brooklyn for a deal around Thad Young.

i dont get it for the kings. they have WCS at PF and they need shooting and defense not an energy role guy