Trade targets: Can Pistons swing a deal for a playoff push? (ESPN)

[RexRyan]

I think we should seriously be looking at anyone with a long term contract. After this summer, those contracts are going to look cheap.

Bingo!

While I think Anderson is a nice upgrade over Erson, paying $20-25 million for him makes little to no sense. Find out who the sellers are and loot them instead.......

[russkopp]

I think we should seriously be looking at anyone with a long term contract. After this summer, those contracts are going to look cheap.

Bingo!

While I think Anderson is a nice upgrade over Erson, paying $20-25 million for him makes little to no sense. Find out who the sellers are and loot them instead.......

Yep, I 100% agree. It's why I'm so high on Markieff. Drop his name and "behavior problems" (that off the court stuff looks bad tho) and put it like this.

Young PF who played at an All Star level last year and has a ridiculously cheap contract. Has a desire to be in Detroit... We have to at least try.

[DetroitPistons]

Doesn't mean anything but a fun podcast with Nate Duncan and Leroux (RealGM), Dan Feldman (NBCSports) and Kevin Pelton (ESPN). Hypothetical trades with them as GMs.

Fun to hear about the Pistons from non-diehard fans. The Pistons "GM" turned down Ersan for Markieff. Would only trade Jodie for him. Says the Pistons like Ersan too much...barf.

Again, this means nothing. Just something to listen to.

I refuse to believe SVG loves Ilyasova as much as he did when he originally traded for him. SVG is not a stupid man.

[russkopp]

I hope SVG (I agree with the post above, he's not stupid) realizes people don't want to come to Detroit.

Thad Young to the New York Post: My wife follows the trade rumors and she definitely doesn't want to go to Detroit. Made that clear.

Having money in free agency doesn't solve all our problems. This is not a desirable city or state to outsiders and the team isn't good enough to offset that. Have to MAKE TRADES.

http://www.mlive.com/pistons/index.ssf/2016/02/detroit_pistons_links_thaddeus.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+detroit-pistons+%28Detroit+Pistons+Impact+-+MLive.com%29

[theBigLip]

I hope SVG (I agree with the post above, he's not stupid) realizes people don't want to come to Detroit.

Thad Young to the New York Post: My wife follows the trade rumors and she definitely doesn't want to go to Detroit. Made that clear.

Having money in free agency doesn't solve all our problems. This is not a desirable city or state to outsiders and the team isn't good enough to offset that. Have to MAKE TRADES.

http://www.mlive.com/pistons/index.ssf/2016/02/detroit_pistons_links_thaddeus.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+detroit-pistons+%28Detroit+Pistons+Impact+-+MLive.com%29

The truth hurts, but it is reality. When your wife wants to live in Miami, and you get the same offer from Detroit as you do in Miami, you're going to Miami. So we need to excel in the draft, make good trades getting solid players under longer contracts, and pick our second tier free agents wisely. We are still attractive to guys that want a bigger role - Reggie Jackson is the perfect example.

The good news is that I think this helps us not make mistakes. If we were "not Detroit", maybe we get Tobias Harris or some of these other overpaid free agents form last summer that we all wanted badly. Glad we didn't "win" any of them

[russkopp]

I hope SVG (I agree with the post above, he's not stupid) realizes people don't want to come to Detroit.

Thad Young to the New York Post: My wife follows the trade rumors and she definitely doesn't want to go to Detroit. Made that clear.

Having money in free agency doesn't solve all our problems. This is not a desirable city or state to outsiders and the team isn't good enough to offset that. Have to MAKE TRADES.

http://www.mlive.com/pistons/index.ssf/2016/02/detroit_pistons_links_thaddeus.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+detroit-pistons+%28Detroit+Pistons+Impact+-+MLive.com%29

The truth hurts, but it is reality. When your wife wants to live in Miami, and you get the same offer from Detroit as you do in Miami, you're going to Miami. So we need to excel in the draft, make good trades getting solid players under longer contracts, and pick our second tier free agents wisely. We are still attractive to guys that want a bigger role - Reggie Jackson is the perfect example.

The good news is that I think this helps us not make mistakes. If we were "not Detroit", maybe we get Tobias Harris or some of these other overpaid free agents form last summer that we all wanted badly. Glad we didn't "win" any of them

I agree. I feel like Markieff fits that description to a T which is why I want to take a chance on him. SVG must have concerns about the twins though and he knows more than me.

[Blkbrd671]

Jennings+filler+First rounder for Knight+Kieff

[ducler]

Jennings+filler+First rounder for Knight+Kieff

I dream about it, but it won't happen unfortunately...

[Montanabadboy]

I can't see Detroit making a move. Nor do I necessarily hope they do. I feel like we need time to gel and develop. Trading Jennings would be the only move I can see that could potentially bring back enough of a return to make it worth our while, without disrupting our chemistry, but I think he's more valuable to us for the playoff push than what we could get in return.

[ducler]

Jennings+filler+First rounder for Knight+Kieff

I dream about it, but it won't happen unfortunately...

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=z87ksqa
Knight + Morris for Jennings + Ilyasova + Dinwiddie

For ESPN, we are "-1 wins" lol

[Kilo]

IF Ersan for Kieff was offered by PHX and turned down, with a Meeks for Kieff counter offer it makes me believe Stan has some big plans for the free agent market. And he's realist enough to have learned his lesson from last years FA courting attempt, and the year prior for that matter one hopes. Makes me believe that Ersan's option won't be picked up, and that he's really about the cap space - so Meeks for Kieff would have added only 2M to next years number, but Ersan for Kieff would have added $8M, meaning that same amount less to spent in the FA market.

Yeah, I'm still dreaming of Al Horford here.

[Canadafan]

Yep. Maybe SVG has to master plan. He talked Drummond into waiting so he must feel confident

[MrBigShot]

I think we should seriously be looking at anyone with a long term contract. After this summer, those contracts are going to look cheap.

Bingo!

While I think Anderson is a nice upgrade over Erson, paying $20-25 million for him makes little to no sense. Find out who the sellers are and loot them instead.......

Yep, I 100% agree. It's why I'm so high on Markieff. Drop his name and "behavior problems" (that off the court stuff looks bad tho) and put it like this.

Young PF who played at an All Star level last year and has a ridiculously cheap contract. Has a desire to be in Detroit... We have to at least try.

Eh 15/5 on a team that went 39-43 isn't really even borderline all star, but I do think he'd be a good addition for sure. I think he'd bring similar value to what Marcus is bringing for us now.

[Donald_Trade]

IF Ersan for Kieff was offered by PHX and turned down, with a Meeks for Kieff counter offer it makes me believe Stan has some big plans for the free agent market. And he's realist enough to have learned his lesson from last years FA courting attempt, and the year prior for that matter one hopes. Makes me believe that Ersan's option won't be picked up, and that he's really about the cap space - so Meeks for Kieff would have added only 2M to next years number, but Ersan for Kieff would have added $8M, meaning that same amount less to spent in the FA market.

Phoenix would not do Ersan for Kieff, I think this is the major reason for why Markieff is not a Piston. Phoenix is not dumping Morris like that.
Teletovic and Leuer have both been better than Illaysova.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&y1=2016&p1=leuerjo01&y2=2016&p2=ilyaser01&y3=2016&p3=teletmi01&p4=&p5=&p6=

[Kilo]

IF Ersan for Kieff was offered by PHX and turned down, with a Meeks for Kieff counter offer it makes me believe Stan has some big plans for the free agent market. And he's realist enough to have learned his lesson from last years FA courting attempt, and the year prior for that matter one hopes. Makes me believe that Ersan's option won't be picked up, and that he's really about the cap space - so Meeks for Kieff would have added only 2M to next years number, but Ersan for Kieff would have added $8M, meaning that same amount less to spent in the FA market.

Phoenix would not do Ersan for Kieff, I think this is the major reason for why Markieff is not a Piston. Phoenix is not dumping Morris like that.

Well the report said Detroit turned down the trade. And it would be far from a "dump" - look at the stats alone, not even factoring in the attitude issue of Kieff.

[Donald_Trade]

Yes look at the stats, Leuer and Teletovic are both having better seasons than Ilyasova.