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Re: Rookie Discussion Thread 

Post#81 » by Domejandro » Tue Feb 9, 2016 7:26 pm

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What did Kevin Love do that mattered?

He averaged over 26 points (on good percentages) and 12.5 rebounds twice, one of the times averaging 4 assists as well. In addition, in his third season, he averaged 20 points and 15 rebounds while shooting over 41% from behind the arc!

Our team around him sucked, but he was nothing short of phenomenal in his time here.


LOL. Playoffs? Zero. Defense? Zero. Attitude? Zero. He's a loser.

By that awful train of logic, Karl Anthony-Towns is a loser right now.

Seriously, Minnesota fans should be grateful how things worked out, Kevin Love wanted out, and he told the front-office. He easily could have screwed us over like LaMarcus Aldridge did in Portland. Yes, Love was slightly egotistical, but the bitterness towards him is unbelievably silly, in my opinion.
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Re: Rookie Discussion Thread 

Post#82 » by countryboy667 » Tue Feb 9, 2016 7:51 pm

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countryboy667 wrote:Others are getting more talk here, but I'm willing to bet in the long run none of these phenoms getting accolades here will be better than Myles Turner...14 points, 13 boards tonight on 6-8 shooting...hasn't even scratched the surface of his potential yet...


Towns? I'll take that bet easy.


Turner is almost a year and a half younger than Towns, and may actually still be growing. Towns also had the advantage of playing at an elite basketball school under an elite coach, while Turner played at Texas--a school where basketball is an afterthought--and the coach, while competent, is not at the elite level.
I've seen a lot of phenoms come and go. Towns undoubtedly is good and is going to be good, but he has a head start over Turner that may or may not last once Turner gets fully acclimated to the NBA.
We'll see.
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Re: Rookie Discussion Thread 

Post#83 » by Domejandro » Tue Feb 9, 2016 7:59 pm

countryboy667 wrote:
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countryboy667 wrote:Others are getting more talk here, but I'm willing to bet in the long run none of these phenoms getting accolades here will be better than Myles Turner...14 points, 13 boards tonight on 6-8 shooting...hasn't even scratched the surface of his potential yet...


Towns? I'll take that bet easy.


Turner is almost a year and a half younger than Towns, and may actually still be growing. Towns also had the advantage of playing at an elite basketball school under an elite coach, while Turner played at Texas--a school where basketball is an afterthought--and the coach, while competent, is not at the elite level.
I've seen a lot of phenoms come and go. Towns undoubtedly is good and is going to be good, but he has a head start over Turner that may or may not last once Turner gets fully acclimated to the NBA.
We'll see.

Just as a correction, Karl Anthony-Towns is only about five months older than Myles Turner.
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Post#84 » by Pacerlive » Tue Feb 9, 2016 8:41 pm

Domejandro wrote:
countryboy667 wrote:
PeteW wrote:
Towns? I'll take that bet easy.


Turner is almost a year and a half younger than Towns, and may actually still be growing. Towns also had the advantage of playing at an elite basketball school under an elite coach, while Turner played at Texas--a school where basketball is an afterthought--and the coach, while competent, is not at the elite level.
I've seen a lot of phenoms come and go. Towns undoubtedly is good and is going to be good, but he has a head start over Turner that may or may not last once Turner gets fully acclimated to the NBA.
We'll see.

Just as a correction, Karl Anthony-Towns is only about five months older than Myles Turner.

Yea but thats like a year and a half in dog years so you know.. :lol:

On a serious note I think both will be good. How good I am not sure but both have some really strong aspects to their game already so the skies the limit.
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Post#85 » by YourBuddy » Wed Feb 10, 2016 12:04 am

Domejandro wrote:
countryboy667 wrote:
PeteW wrote:
Towns? I'll take that bet easy.


Turner is almost a year and a half younger than Towns, and may actually still be growing. Towns also had the advantage of playing at an elite basketball school under an elite coach, while Turner played at Texas--a school where basketball is an afterthought--and the coach, while competent, is not at the elite level.
I've seen a lot of phenoms come and go. Towns undoubtedly is good and is going to be good, but he has a head start over Turner that may or may not last once Turner gets fully acclimated to the NBA.
We'll see.

Just as a correction, Karl Anthony-Towns is only about five months older than Myles Turner.


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Post#86 » by yitur » Wed Feb 10, 2016 12:29 am

Pacerlive wrote:
Domejandro wrote:
countryboy667 wrote:
Turner is almost a year and a half younger than Towns, and may actually still be growing. Towns also had the advantage of playing at an elite basketball school under an elite coach, while Turner played at Texas--a school where basketball is an afterthought--and the coach, while competent, is not at the elite level.
I've seen a lot of phenoms come and go. Towns undoubtedly is good and is going to be good, but he has a head start over Turner that may or may not last once Turner gets fully acclimated to the NBA.
We'll see.

Just as a correction, Karl Anthony-Towns is only about five months older than Myles Turner.

Yea but thats like a year and a half in dog years so you know.. :lol:

On a serious note I think both will be good. How good I am not sure but both have some really strong aspects to their game already so the skies the limit.


I love Myles Turner. I loved before the draft, i wrote on the lakers chat page during the draft that i would rather pick Turner than Okafor with the 2nd. But Towns is the clear cut number one. They have very similar skills but Towns has the ball handling and passing instincts over Turner. Turner is usually the finisher but he doesn't create much. The part he can be better than Towns is his rim protection.

Both with Porzingod have potential to be 20-10 with over 2 blocks. Okafor has 25-9 with below 2 blocks.
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Post#87 » by youOK » Wed Feb 10, 2016 12:59 am

Love Turner but Towns is clearly far and away the best player in the class so far. KP and Turner are still very raw while Towns is already a monster.
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Post#88 » by E-Balla » Wed Feb 10, 2016 1:32 am

amk233 wrote:Love Turner but Towns is clearly far and away the best player in the class so far. KP and Turner are still very raw while Towns is already a monster.

How is Towns not raw? He's not good defensively and offensively he's not that good yet.
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Post#90 » by NYMNYKFN10 » Wed Feb 10, 2016 2:46 am

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Post#91 » by countryboy667 » Wed Feb 10, 2016 2:52 am

Domejandro wrote:
countryboy667 wrote:
PeteW wrote:
Towns? I'll take that bet easy.


Turner is almost a year and a half younger than Towns, and may actually still be growing. Towns also had the advantage of playing at an elite basketball school under an elite coach, while Turner played at Texas--a school where basketball is an afterthought--and the coach, while competent, is not at the elite level.
I've seen a lot of phenoms come and go. Towns undoubtedly is good and is going to be good, but he has a head start over Turner that may or may not last once Turner gets fully acclimated to the NBA.
We'll see.

Just as a correction, Karl Anthony-Towns is only about five months older than Myles Turner.


Don't know how in hell I mixed up that age differential, but I did...but I still say let's wait and see--not only due to the difference in the level of coaching and competition exposure in college that Turner had compared to Towns, but also because Towns has benefited from starting almost immediately for a pretty bad team while Turner has only recently been given the opportunity to do so for a decent team with legit playoff ambitions. Those factors definitely make a major difference.
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Post#92 » by Domejandro » Wed Feb 10, 2016 3:09 am

countryboy667 wrote:
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Turner is almost a year and a half younger than Towns, and may actually still be growing. Towns also had the advantage of playing at an elite basketball school under an elite coach, while Turner played at Texas--a school where basketball is an afterthought--and the coach, while competent, is not at the elite level.
I've seen a lot of phenoms come and go. Towns undoubtedly is good and is going to be good, but he has a head start over Turner that may or may not last once Turner gets fully acclimated to the NBA.
We'll see.

Just as a correction, Karl Anthony-Towns is only about five months older than Myles Turner.


Don't know how in hell I mixed up that age differential, but I did...but I still say let's wait and see--not only due to the difference in the level of coaching and competition exposure in college that Turner had compared to Towns, but also because Towns has benefited from starting almost immediately for a pretty bad team while Turner has only recently been given the opportunity to do so for a decent team with legit playoff ambitions. Those factors definitely make a major difference.

No problem, you must have just tacked on an extra year by accident, haha.
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Post#96 » by HawaiianJazzFan » Wed Feb 10, 2016 5:21 am

Trey Lyles isn't playing much anymore now that Favors is back but tonight in 14 minutes he had an impactful 11 points, 3 boards, and 2 assists.
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Post#97 » by Klomp » Wed Feb 10, 2016 5:23 am

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amk233 wrote:Love Turner but Towns is clearly far and away the best player in the class so far. KP and Turner are still very raw while Towns is already a monster.

How is Towns not raw? He's not good defensively and offensively he's not that good yet.

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Post#98 » by drone3 » Wed Feb 10, 2016 7:49 am

HawaiianJazzFan wrote:Trey Lyles isn't playing much anymore now that Favors is back but tonight in 14 minutes he had an impactful 11 points, 3 boards, and 2 assists.


Lyle's is a sleeper, seems to be finding he's stride last few months. Jazz are an awesome young team as well, hopefully Exum will recover and actualize he's potential.
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Post#99 » by Zeitgeister » Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:14 am

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amk233 wrote:Love Turner but Towns is clearly far and away the best player in the class so far. KP and Turner are still very raw while Towns is already a monster.

How is Towns not raw? He's not good defensively and offensively he's not that good yet.


He's not raw because he's polished. He's one of the best rookies in the past 10-15 years and you're calling him raw.
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Post#100 » by Kolkmania » Wed Feb 10, 2016 10:25 am

Haven't had the chance to see much of Turner, but I'm impressed with his footwork. Seems to be moving on his forefoot instead of his heels, did the FO/Coach mention specific training on this subject? Turner had a great shooting stroke at Texas, so that's no suprise, his lateral quickness scared the hell out of me though. Good to see major improvement in such a short time span.

BUT, can he stay healthy? I think that has always been the biggest concern with Myles Turner.

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