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PandaKidd wrote:King Ken wrote:You want an all star level PG on a great contract who is a true PG, you gonna have to offer a lot. Oladipo and Gordon is reasonable. I don't see that yet so it's a no.
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so 2 guys who went number 2 and 4 in the 1st round under complete team control for an aging PG who will want a massive new contract in 1.5 years?
King Ken wrote:PandaKidd wrote:King Ken wrote:You guys really don't understand the NBA if you think this is a good deal. A good deal on real GM is usually terrible to NBA executives. There is a reason Orlando first offer was Oladipo.
Stop posting or lurking message boards, they have zero sense of value. They all want a lot for little. It's like thinking you can get a Mercedes-Benz for the price of an old Honda Civic
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yeah but youre asking A LOT(Oladipo/Gordon) for A LITTLE (TEAGUE).
Hawks would have control over Oladipo for 4-5 years. Orlando would only have Teague for 1.5 years and then hes going to want a new contract, a much HIGHER contract.
SG is a much much much more valuable position in the NBA than PG (considering there are very few top tier SGs in the league). IM not saying Oladipo is a top tier SG but its a position of need for us.
Right now our starting SG is 35 years old and showing signs of slowing down. Oladipo would solve that problem for the forseeable future.
Teague is a little? Get out. It's clear you are just a hater. How is Teague little. Let's break down the numbers and impact then?
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PandaKidd wrote:King Ken wrote:PandaKidd wrote:Yeah you guys are nuts, Teague for Oladipo would be a HUGE MOVE for the Hawks. I would be ecstatic. Thats a good trade STRAIGHT UP, asking to add in other players you are OUT OF YOUR MIND.
No its not. He wouldn't start. There is more to the game than athleticism and talent. You have to fit, you have the right size, you have to understand the system. This would be a pretty bad trade for Atlanta. Good by real GM Atlanta trade standards but bad overall.
O.J. Mayo has talent. Derrick Williams has talent. A lot of players in the NBA have talent. We not just going to trade an important piece to our team for talent. We need young players who are going to fit or someone with proven ability in a position of need, if that's not available than we will look at valued talent.
We want Oladipo and Gordon. We would love Oladipo and Fournier or Oladipo and Hezonja. We don't care what you want just like you don't care what we want. But if you want Teague, you better pay what we want. You trying to negotiate terms like it's a car. We got a prized PG and we will treat it as such.
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You have 3 PGs on your team and an aging SG in Korver who is declining rapidly. Trading for a talent like Oladipo would be amazing considering you are giving up 8 million a year TEAGUE (WHO BECOMES AN EXPIRING IN 6 months) for a 22 year old under contract.
Why not ask them to throw in the deed to the arena while we are at it?
Prized PG? Teague is a decent PG, maybe top 15. But its not a position of NEED for us. We have DS and can sign a Vet to help him develop. SG/SF are the NEEDS for this team.
tiderulz wrote:King Ken wrote:PandaKidd wrote:yeah but youre asking A LOT(Oladipo/Gordon) for A LITTLE (TEAGUE).
Hawks would have control over Oladipo for 4-5 years. Orlando would only have Teague for 1.5 years and then hes going to want a new contract, a much HIGHER contract.
SG is a much much much more valuable position in the NBA than PG (considering there are very few top tier SGs in the league). IM not saying Oladipo is a top tier SG but its a position of need for us.
Right now our starting SG is 35 years old and showing signs of slowing down. Oladipo would solve that problem for the forseeable future.
Teague is a little? Get out. It's clear you are just a hater. How is Teague little. Let's break down the numbers and impact then?
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tied 16th in apg, 13th in ppg. decent but not great numbers.
bdpecore wrote:You sir, are the one with the skewed perspective on players true value not the majority of poster on realgm.
PandaKidd wrote:yeah but youre asking A LOT(Oladipo/Gordon) for A LITTLE (TEAGUE).
King Ken wrote:PandaKidd wrote:King Ken wrote:Teague isn't expiring this year. That is Horford. That's your opinion on Conley. Conley is better but to say they aren't in the same league is false. They have a similar trajectory. Neither are Lowry or Lillard who is literally in a different level than either player.
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IN 6 MONTHS = JULY=EXPIRING.
Teague is an expiring in 6 months, that is a fact.
A year and a half is not what GM'S see as expiring. That's a potential playoff run and an offseason. That's a lot.
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Jamaaliver wrote:bdpecore wrote:You sir, are the one with the skewed perspective on players true value not the majority of poster on realgm.PandaKidd wrote:yeah but youre asking A LOT(Oladipo/Gordon) for A LITTLE (TEAGUE).
You guys are arguing in circles. The other gentleman...is pretty stubborn so it may not even be worth it.
You guys are correct. And the consensus is that Teague for Oladipo would be a boon, a coup, a wonderful acquisition for the Hawks.
Less so for the Magic because of Teague's impending Free Agency.
Now...had the Hawks traded Teague with 2 full years under contract, then you could expect a larger haul as he'd be under that wonderfully low salary for a while.
But, again, you guys are correct. Arguing with...that other gentleman...is a waste of time.
PandaKidd wrote:Yeah , moving on. If this deal existed, id have packed Teagues bags and driven him to the airport.
Im sure the Hawks have you on speeddial. King Ken wrote:PandaKidd wrote:Yeah , moving on. If this deal existed, id have packed Teagues bags and driven him to the airport.
Good thing you aren't the GM.
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King Ken wrote:PandaKidd wrote:Yeah , moving on. If this deal existed, id have packed Teagues bags and driven him to the airport.
Good thing you aren't the GM.
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tiderulz wrote:King Ken wrote:PandaKidd wrote:yeah but youre asking A LOT(Oladipo/Gordon) for A LITTLE (TEAGUE).
Hawks would have control over Oladipo for 4-5 years. Orlando would only have Teague for 1.5 years and then hes going to want a new contract, a much HIGHER contract.
SG is a much much much more valuable position in the NBA than PG (considering there are very few top tier SGs in the league). IM not saying Oladipo is a top tier SG but its a position of need for us.
Right now our starting SG is 35 years old and showing signs of slowing down. Oladipo would solve that problem for the forseeable future.
Teague is a little? Get out. It's clear you are just a hater. How is Teague little. Let's break down the numbers and impact then?
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tied 16th in apg, 13th in ppg. decent but not great numbers.
Atlhawks09 wrote:tiderulz wrote:King Ken wrote:Teague is a little? Get out. It's clear you are just a hater. How is Teague little. Let's break down the numbers and impact then?
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tied 16th in apg, 13th in ppg. decent but not great numbers.
Not saying Teague is worth Dipo/Gordon but all those guys ahead of him on the list play more minutes. I do think Teague's numbers would be a lot better on a team with more usage rate/more minutes.
uga_dawgs24 wrote:By setting the price for Teague sky high we are setting our selves up for a catastrophic failure. The result will be Teague on a max or Teague walking.
Lundahl wrote:I think maybe you guys are misunderstanding King Ken(correct me if I'm wrong).
You are saying that Teague for Oladipo OR Gordon would be a good trade... Not Teague for Oladipo AND Gordon... right?
Right?
King Ken wrote:You want an all star level PG on a great contract who is a true PG, you gonna have to offer a lot. Oladipo and Gordon is reasonable. I don't see that yet so it's a no.
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Lundahl wrote:I think maybe you guys are misunderstanding King Ken(correct me if I'm wrong).
You are saying that Teague for Oladipo OR Gordon would be a good trade... Not Teague for Oladipo AND Gordon... right?
Right?
Lundahl wrote:I think maybe you guys are misunderstanding King Ken(correct me if I'm wrong).
You are saying that Teague for Oladipo OR Gordon would be a good trade... Not Teague for Oladipo AND Gordon... right?
Right?