Hassan Whiteside: Road To The Max

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First of all, for all the youngsters, Zo was HIGHLY criticized around the league at a Cam Newton level. He was called a thug, immature, hot head. Players around the league were trying to push Zo buttons and that's what lead the fight against New York. Zo was ripped about that situation. On the other hand Whiteside is losing his cool for no reason at at all to where it's borderline insane.

Another thing, the league in the 90's NBA was big on intimidating others. That was a 90's culture in general. Trash talking trying to get underneath someone skin was constant. Now it's very rare, players are less concerned because a lot has to do with NBA changing the culture. Whiteside takin cheap shots at players for no insane reason is alarming. Even more alarming he's broke and acting like this, you have to ask how is he gonna act with money.

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lol... wow...
do you guys know Pat Riley????
maybe I do not...

The Knicks team that brutalizes opponents, Zo's Heat were not pussycats either. Now we are some PC loving team... lol...

what a joke... NBA is now.....


much love for Whiteside, hoping your achieve your goals, big fella....
Just work on your game and stay cool headed....

Man, my Orlando Magic are so damn SOFT it's sickening... Especially Vuc. I'm hoping they throw the max at Whiteside even though I highly doubt it. I have fellow Magic fans telling me how bringing him in would be a bad idea, so I came here to see what Heat fans thought of him. You guys are the truth. Whiteside is an old school bad boy in a new school PC loving league. You have every right to be mad at the way the Heat and their leaders have treated him.

So my question is, will losing him hurt your team or not really?

Apparently we're all going to find out. All I know is that hole better get patched or it should cost Spo his job.

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lol... wow...
do you guys know Pat Riley????
maybe I do not...

The Knicks team that brutalizes opponents, Zo's Heat were not pussycats either. Now we are some PC loving team... lol...

what a joke... NBA is now.....


much love for Whiteside, hoping your achieve your goals, big fella....
Just work on your game and stay cool headed....

Man, my Orlando Magic are so damn SOFT it's sickening... Especially Vuc. I'm hoping they throw the max at Whiteside even though I highly doubt it. I have fellow Magic fans telling me how bringing him in would be a bad idea, so I came here to see what Heat fans thought of him. You guys are the truth. Whiteside is an old school bad boy in a new school PC loving league. You have every right to be mad at the way the Heat and their leaders have treated him.

So my question is, will losing him hurt your team or not really?

Give us Fournier and we'll get over it.

Fournier???

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Has Hassan ever thought (and his supporters) ever thought if his attitude was positive throughout what ever he goes through that he will be regarded higher & trusted more?! Poor character does not equate to being rewarded and this is after all the Miami Heat not some scrub organization that rewards poor behavior.

You've got to love the way myths are created. Shaq came here became a pain in the ass, got Van Gundy fired, undermined Pat Riley, and then forced his way out of town ... and we're retiring his jersey. Stop with the BS about how we don't reward poor attitudes.

[walk with me]

I haven't read the last few pages... but i did read the last page.


It seems like people like the "toughness" that whiteside brings. But there's a difference.


Dexter pittman or udonis elbowing a guy to send a message (for the entire team) is different than
hassan whiteside having a personal vendetta with that 7 ft 6 guy from the spurs.


Ive been one of the few who was happy about whiteside being around but he can't get out of his own way with his selfish behavior. Whether we trade him or let him go. I don't care honeslty.


I'd rather lose with a team I like than win with a team I dislike.

I just work with him. I do not know ho things are behind the scenes. This season, Hassan has been tremendous.. this will be his first altercation. Seems like everyone just want throw him out of the NBA.. wtf? He is a talent, of all the knuckle heads that have worn Miami Heat jersey, seems everyone is making him out to be the worst.

What has happen when none of his teammates supports him.. like really... disappointed by the comments from Wade and Bosh... just smh...

you can say what you want about what YOU SEE

but wade and bosh who are there every day with him (and also never really have negative things to say about their teammates) have said pretty negative things about him frequently. And not negative regarding his skill level but negative in terms of his ability to stay focused and play for the team and not himself...


Wade and bosh not being down with hassan is enough for me.

[Skin]

Miami fans, what do you think about this talk among Magic fans?

Somehow Miami plays worse defense when Whiteside is on the floor.

As odd as that sounds..wonder why.

It's easy he sells out for blocks too much. Yes when he gets the block he looks great and numbers are awesome but when he misses it's an easy basket

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Miami fans, what do you think about this talk among Magic fans?

Somehow Miami plays worse defense when Whiteside is on the floor.

As odd as that sounds..wonder why.

It's easy he sells out for blocks too much. Yes when he gets the block he looks great and numbers are awesome but when he misses it's an easy basket

It's accurate. Whiteside is playing for his next contract.

[3ballbomber]

Has Hassan ever thought (and his supporters) ever thought if his attitude was positive throughout what ever he goes through that he will be regarded higher & trusted more?! Poor character does not equate to being rewarded and this is after all the Miami Heat not some scrub organization that rewards poor behavior.

You've got to love the way myths are created. Shaq came here became a pain in the ass, got Van Gundy fired, undermined Pat Riley, and then forced his way out of town ... and we're retiring his jersey. Stop with the BS about how we don't reward poor attitudes.

this is just complete and utter nonsense retort.

Shaq came in with numerous rings and a pre-existent reputation and respect from the league from his body of work throughout his career already. Now, If we signed him as a rook and he was displaying negative behavior do you think we would treat him the same or we punish him exactly the same as we do Hassan! This is rhetorical as there's only one correct answer here and there's no way trying to spin or justify the other. You're Shaq argument is nil & void!

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Shaq came in with numerous rings ...

I'm sorry, are we debating whether the Heat allow players to act out, or whether it's only OK for team leaders?

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ugh......you failed to see the point & i shouldn't need to elaborate. I brought up ring as part of the argument that Shaq was already a very well established player. There's a difference between a rook and a vet. Vets tend to get away w/ more wether you like it or not & also rightly so. Fact is Shaq also helped us win our first Title......what has Hassan helped us to accomplish so far in his very short career coming out of the depths of nowheresville?

[Rocky M5]

I sticky'd this thread, let's try to keep all Hassan talk centered here.

We seem to have a new thread made about him after every game. Hassan's play and his contract will be a big talking point all season long.

Hassan is going to get paid big money one way or another. Whether it be us who gives it to him or somebody else, let's all enjoy Hassan Whiteside's road to the max.

My poor thread.

This is how I started it back in December. No one's enjoying his journey. Everybody would rather throw poop at each other and at him throughout his ups and downs...

Criticism towards Hassan i believe is justified simply because he is a special talent that can be GREAT. But he's throwing it all away w/ his nonsense. How can we enjoy that aspect of his journey? All that ego he shows on twitter and then he pouts and acts bitter about playing time? That's not enjoyable to watch.

Has Hassan ever thought (and his supporters) ever thought if his attitude was positive throughout what ever he goes through that he will be regarded higher & trusted more?! Poor character does not equate to being rewarded and this is after all the Miami Heat not some scrub organization that rewards poor behavior. Get the f*ck outta here if you think we let a rookie get away with bullsh*t here. Strighten up, act right.....earn your keep and you'll get yours. Individual stats don't mean squat if you are a detriment to your team. I wouldn't be surprised at all if Spo holds him out of 4th Q's because of attitude and i support that 100%. We don't have the reputation we do because we let kids act up and reward it....nope....we earned our rep simply because we are a disciplined organization that helps mentor players the tough way until they get themselves in order and just focus solely on basketball.

I love the kids hunger but he still needs direction and nurturing - this is why playing in Miami is highly beneficial to him. But he must acknowledge this. He can thrive here if only he understands what he needs to do in regards to maturity, respect and humbleness. IT's not that difficult to see that his mentality is the only thing holding him back.

Some think we should just let him go, let him be happy somewhere counting max money.....do you really think this would be good for him? Giving somebody who lacks maturity freedom and cash just because he can put up monster stats for your team? Basketball is more than just individual statistics, it's also all about character, integrity and respect.

Man get the f*ck outta here with this after school special bullsh*t

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^that all ya got? you mad bro?

Ask the greats what it takes to be great. It won't be much different to what i said & i betcha what i stated won't be too different to what they are trying to teach Hassan.

You may reward Hassan, but that's exactly why professionals involved w/ the sport don't consult w/ fans on their decisions for their athletes.

[Zasterror]

I hate the fact that our fanbase has been divided over this. Even to the point where there are fans here that even question the integrity and character of some of the most prominent members of our franchise just to prop up their defense for a guy (whom we were ALL optimistic and excited about) who has shown numerous of times of his selfishness, poor attitude, and lack of on-court intangibles being counter-productive to this team.

Look, we all, fans and players/coaches alike, desire for Whiteside to succeed, that was clear from Day 1 in this season. Riley made bold claims about him and Wade and Bosh often complimented him on his abilities and defended him when others were scared to. How did we get from then to here now? Because Whiteside hasn't necessarily changed his ways. We fought for him because we HOPED that he will improve not only as player but as a Heat-modeled citizen. You can jerk off with his incredible numbers/stats all you want but underneath that surface is something wrong there. I am not saying Whiteside should totally change who he is; that's not fair to him. We all love and embraced Cocky "look at my vein" Whiteside because it was conducive to us winning. He played with 100% effort and intensity while keeping his head on his shoulders in that "vein" game. But you have to admit when he can have similar numbers but the effort and intensity wasn't there and his attitude was piss poor; it's not hard to tell. He's human, it's whatever with me but there is a breaking point and a line in which the FRANCHISE has to take note on with a guy who was literally out the league a couple seasons ago; something you cannot compare to other hot-blooded, hard-to-manage YET proven individuals like Zo, UD, and Shaq.

What I am saying is that the ball is on his court; he has to option whether he can stay and possibly succeed or leave to the unknown If he doesn't feel like there is nothing more to say about his behavior and why his own teammates/coaches gave the comments they made after the Spurs game, then he probably needs to leave.

I want him to stay but I also want him to grow up and realize he hasn't earn his keep yet, no matter how much triple-block-doubles he has. We haven't even seen how he performs in a Playoff settings where EVERYTHING is magnified exponentially. Bang or Bust, it's all up to him, all we can do as a franchise/fanbase is continue to support him but not let him get away with bulls***.

[Hallstar]

And contract is bringing up SHaq when we dumped 4 time Champion Shaq when his attitude became too much to be worth it, who is Whiteside ?

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And contract is bringing up SHaq when we dumped 4 time Champion Shaq when his attitude became too much to be worth it, who is Whiteside ?

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ILook, we all, fans and players/coaches alike, desire for Whiteside to succeed, that was clear from Day 1 in this season. Riley made bold claims about him and Wade and Bosh often complimented him on his abilities and defended him when others were scared to. How did we get from then to here now? Because Whiteside hasn't necessarily changed his ways.

Whiteside doesn't need to change his ways. He's a productive player. Tearing him down accomplishes nothing, and it sure as hell is not helping this team in the short or long term.

Wade and Bosh need to STFU and quit trashing Whiteside to the media.

[heat4life]

ILook, we all, fans and players/coaches alike, desire for Whiteside to succeed, that was clear from Day 1 in this season. Riley made bold claims about him and Wade and Bosh often complimented him on his abilities and defended him when others were scared to. How did we get from then to here now? Because Whiteside hasn't necessarily changed his ways.

Whiteside doesn't need to change his ways. He's a productive player. Tearing him down accomplishes nothing, and it sure as hell is not helping this team in the short or long term.

Wade and Bosh need to STFU and quit trashing Whiteside to the media.

I don't know where you have seen them trashing Whiteside. It's inaccurate. Both get asked questions about Whiteside and give their thoughts on the situation. I don't hear the "trashing". Would a "next question" make the situation better? I don't think, it will linger.

Whiteside has brought this to himself. When he plays good and is focused everyone asks about his potential, you read articles of how great he can be etc. But when he makes stupid decisions such as the last one, these are the type of questions out there. He feeds the fire. Who is the only one that can control that? Whiteside.

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ILook, we all, fans and players/coaches alike, desire for Whiteside to succeed, that was clear from Day 1 in this season. Riley made bold claims about him and Wade and Bosh often complimented him on his abilities and defended him when others were scared to. How did we get from then to here now? Because Whiteside hasn't necessarily changed his ways.

Whiteside doesn't need to change his ways. He's a productive player. Tearing him down accomplishes nothing, and it sure as hell is not helping this team in the short or long term.

Wade and Bosh need to STFU and quit trashing Whiteside to the media.

I don't know where you have seen them trashing Whiteside. It's inaccurate. Both get asked questions about Whiteside and give their thoughts on the situation. I don't hear the "trashing". Would a "next question" make the situation better? I don't think, it will linger.

Bosh could discuss why he rebounds like a WNBA player. Wade could discuss why his 3pt shot keeps getting worse. They could critique themselves instead of their teammates.

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Whiteside has brought this to himself. When he plays good and is focused everyone asks about his potential, you read articles of how great he can be etc. But when he makes stupid decisions such as the last one, these are the type of questions out there. He feeds the fire. Who is the only one that can control that? Whiteside.

The guys running their mouths can control that. I'm sure that Wade wouldn't have appreciated Lebron being honest on his way out of town.