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Re: The Trade Thread (Booker is UNTOUCHABLE so dont even ask!) 

Post#1081 » by NavLDO » Sun Feb 14, 2016 4:13 pm

Sunsdeuce wrote:Im sorry if this comes off as harsh but if your responsible for assembling (and soon disassembling) the worst team, worst roster, and nearly (by an inch) worst record, you dont deserve any Coodoos.


Answer me this. What team has ever had a winning record while sporting their #4 starting PG as their starter? But yep, let's hear again how EVERY team deals with injuries...sorry but not injuries to it's top 3 options at the "QB" position of basketball. Doesn't happen. And now, is dealing with its starting SF, and starting PF out as well, while the OTHER starting PF, you know, the one that McD DIDN'T draft, has mailed it in until Horny was fired. But hey, let's blame it all on McD, right? And what about this quote from you:

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Sunsdeuce wrote:So some here think coaches don't try and lose games. Lol, guess what you favorite team and coach tried to lose games. There is so much some of you don't understand and refuse to see. Basketball is sports and not everything is on the up and up. Wake up!!


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Sunsdeuce wrote:Clearly Ryan Mcd wanted to tank but outsmarted himself. He hired possibly one of the best coaches in the league without really knowing it (I'm sure he thought Jeff was going to be great for the younger players), I think he underestimated dragic's ability, and I'm sure he wasn't 100 percent sure that Bledsoe was going to perform as well as he did. I think he had a grand plan of developing the young team while losing and getting a top 3 pick. I think when we started winning he had to rework his initial plan. But it's all good, we are still not a great team. Just need to upgrade a few places and possibly add an all-star and we will be contenders. I'm
Still enjoying the season.


Everything was kosher back then, wasn't it?? So back to present, where's your 'solution' to this problem?? All I hear from you is "the sky is falling, the sky is falling." And "Colangelo would never tolerate this." You're finally right on something, congrats. He also almost bankrupt this team and the D-Backs, spending other people's money, but sadly, was only successful in building a champion for one of the teams. Or are you talking about Bryan?

Anyway, we are clearly tanking, but at the same time, McD can't come out and say it publicly, so he throw's out quotes like "we are only 5 1/2 games out of the 8th seed, blah, blah, blah." So how come, it's ok for Colangelo to tank, but not McD?? And if not why would he trade Kieff, our best player over the past half a dozen games? We are tanking! Wake up! I'm having a hard time believing that just two years ago, you recognized that teams tank in the NBA, and here you are now, not able to recognize that as our most talented players, (at least those we'd most likely agree on that were our most talented from the beginning of the season), either became injured, or decided to 'mail it in', McD saw the 'writing on the wall' and figured we may as well tank, because we aren't going to be competitive. But at the same time, he can't be overly obvious to the league or fans, so certain moves need to be made (firing coaches); certain things need to be said.

McD has an eye for talent, but needs to learn more about putting pieces together and showing some 'love' to the players. He and Horny did an amazing thing two years ago, then tried to build off it. But then some things started to unravel; MoBros assault, Dragic declined and whined, and this season, Bledsoe got injured, along with Knight and Price, and Kieff played like a$$ because he's a baby and didn't get his way. What's McD supposed to do with that!?!?!

But hey, let's fire him and extend our misery another 3 years while a different GM comes in and tries to install his system/players, then, in another 2 years, we can all come back, complain and whine because that GM hasn't taken us to a championship in less than 3 years, and we can repeat the cycle over and over...won't that be fun!!

Give him a chance to 'tank' and accumulate some more young/future building pieces, and, oh, I don't know, give him chance to actually see his plan through to fruition. You McD haters are nothing more than the "I want it now, now, now" generation, and can't see the light at the end of the tunnel. If by the end of next season, our primary pieces (Bledsoe, Len, Warren, Knight, and now Booker, unless Knight is traded, which is a possibility) stay healthy, or don't commit felony, and we aren't a playoff team, then fine, I'll be on board the fire McD train, begrudgingly, because ultimately, I think a GM should be given 5 years to build 'his' team and see his vision to fruition.

But don't talk out one side of your mouth about GMs tanking, then out of the other, decide you can't recognize that our GM is tanking, then try to 'blame' that GM for putting together the worst team in Suns history, because that flat out isn't true; you darn well know it, and are trying to use our record as evidence for firing our GM! That's about as disingenuous as one can be!
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Re: The Trade Thread (Booker is UNTOUCHABLE so dont even ask!) 

Post#1082 » by Qwigglez » Sun Feb 14, 2016 4:22 pm

Less than a week before the trade deadline!
Got a hypothetical question for ya guys. What if the Warriors were going after Kevin Durant over the offseason but they needed to shed a little bit of salary, so the way they do that is they trade Klay Thompson for Devin Booker/ Kieff/ Goodwin, would you guys do it?
I don't think I would. I think Klay is a really really good player, but he is getting so many easy looks because of Curry. Booker has been playing well enough in the last 10 games to be averaging 17/4/4 (though he is shooting 39%).
Also, could you imagine how lethal the Warriors would be with Curry/Booker/Durant/Draymond?
Again, I know this is some 2K bs so no hating. Just wanted a discussion since trades don't normally happen until after all-star weekend. Hopefully some more rumors leak though.
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Re: The Trade Thread (Booker is UNTOUCHABLE so dont even ask!) 

Post#1083 » by NavLDO » Sun Feb 14, 2016 4:23 pm

silverstyne wrote:
Sunsdeuce wrote:Im sorry if this comes off as harsh but if your responsible for assembling (and soon disassembling) the worst team, worst roster, and nearly (by an inch) worst record, you dont deserve any Coodoos.


This x 1,000,000! He could win all his value trades and drafts. but the bottom line is we have one of the worst teams in suns history..


:looks at win-loss %; compares to past seasons while looking at NOTHING else; makes comment: :nonono: :nonono: :nonono:
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Re: The Trade Thread (Booker is UNTOUCHABLE so dont even ask!) 

Post#1084 » by Sonne » Sun Feb 14, 2016 4:27 pm

keef is traded big news coming soon.....
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Post#1085 » by jredsaz » Sun Feb 14, 2016 4:44 pm

Sonne wrote:keef is traded big news coming soon.....


Say what!?!
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Re: The Trade Thread (Booker is UNTOUCHABLE so dont even ask!) 

Post#1086 » by GeraldsGreenery » Sun Feb 14, 2016 4:45 pm

Sonne wrote:keef is traded big news coming soon.....


:o :o More info please??
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Post#1087 » by jredsaz » Sun Feb 14, 2016 4:46 pm

Sonne wrote:keef is traded big news coming soon.....


Any details?
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Re: The Trade Thread (Booker is UNTOUCHABLE so dont even ask!) 

Post#1088 » by JMac1 » Sun Feb 14, 2016 4:48 pm

GeraldsGreenery wrote:
Sonne wrote:keef is traded big news coming soon.....


:o :o More info please??



:lol:

C'mon. Tell use something we don't know. In other words, poster believes Kieff is getting traded. Unless you say to who, it is BS as far as I am concerned.
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Re: RE: Re: The Trade Thread (Booker is UNTOUCHABLE so dont even ask!) 

Post#1089 » by JMac1 » Sun Feb 14, 2016 4:49 pm

jredsaz wrote:
Sonne wrote:keef is traded big news coming soon.....


Any details?



Yea, I heard he was getting traded to an NBA team and the deal could include a first, it depends.
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Re: The Trade Thread (Booker is UNTOUCHABLE so dont even ask!) 

Post#1090 » by Frank Lee » Sun Feb 14, 2016 4:56 pm

NavLDO wrote:
silverstyne wrote:
Sunsdeuce wrote:Im sorry if this comes off as harsh but if your responsible for assembling (and soon disassembling) the worst team, worst roster, and nearly (by an inch) worst record, you dont deserve any Coodoos.


This x 1,000,000! He could win all his value trades and drafts. but the bottom line is we have one of the worst teams in suns history..


:looks at win-loss %; compares to past seasons while looking at NOTHING else; makes comment: :nonono: :nonono: :nonono:



so let me get this straight.... outside of a Bledsoe injury, isn't that 'NOTHING else' largely based on what potential we may have in a few youngsters, and a handful of draft picks? I can handle optimism, but you at least have to acknowledge that mistakes have been made that are equally hard to measure.

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Re: The Trade Thread (Booker is UNTOUCHABLE so dont even ask!) 

Post#1091 » by bwgood77 » Sun Feb 14, 2016 5:02 pm

NavLDO wrote: So how come, it's ok for Colangelo to tank, but not McD??


When did Colangelo try to tank?
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Re: The Trade Thread (Booker is UNTOUCHABLE so dont even ask!) 

Post#1092 » by bwgood77 » Sun Feb 14, 2016 5:04 pm

Qwigglez wrote:Less than a week before the trade deadline!
Got a hypothetical question for ya guys. What if the Warriors were going after Kevin Durant over the offseason but they needed to shed a little bit of salary, so the way they do that is they trade Klay Thompson for Devin Booker/ Kieff/ Goodwin, would you guys do it?
I don't think I would. I think Klay is a really really good player, but he is getting so many easy looks because of Curry. Booker has been playing well enough in the last 10 games to be averaging 17/4/4 (though he is shooting 39%).
Also, could you imagine how lethal the Warriors would be with Curry/Booker/Durant/Draymond?
Again, I know this is some 2K bs so no hating. Just wanted a discussion since trades don't normally happen until after all-star weekend. Hopefully some more rumors leak though.


No, I wouldn't trade Booker straight up for Klay? Booker is much better than Klay at the same age and we have a young team. Klay was a soph in college at this age and still not good enough to come out in the draft after that season. I don't even think he was as good as a rookie after three years in college as Booker is now.
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Re: The Trade Thread (Booker is UNTOUCHABLE so dont even ask!) 

Post#1093 » by bwgood77 » Sun Feb 14, 2016 5:09 pm

JMac1 wrote:
GeraldsGreenery wrote:
Sonne wrote:keef is traded big news coming soon.....


:o :o More info please??



:lol:

C'mon. Tell use something we don't know. In other words, poster believes Kieff is getting traded. Unless you say to who, it is BS as far as I am concerned.


Hey, he has a pretty good chance of being right, whether he knows something or not. So 75% or more of this board will think he's an insider if news comes out by the end of the day that he is traded.
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Post#1094 » by Fo-Real » Sun Feb 14, 2016 6:20 pm

Sonne wrote:keef is traded big news coming soon.....


No specifics asked for, simply questions (2) Is he leaving alone? Are we going to like this?
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Post#1095 » by TOO » Sun Feb 14, 2016 6:25 pm

Sonne wrote:keef is traded big news coming soon.....

The Suns won't make the playoffs. #Insider
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Post#1096 » by JMac1 » Sun Feb 14, 2016 6:33 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
JMac1 wrote:
GeraldsGreenery wrote:
:o :o More info please??



:lol:

C'mon. Tell use something we don't know. In other words, poster believes Kieff is getting traded. Unless you say to who, it is BS as far as I am concerned.


Hey, he has a pretty good chance of being right, whether he knows something or not. So 75% or more of this board will think he's an insider if news comes out by the end of the day that he is traded.


Sorry, but I have followed this board closely for years and it has been a long time since we have recieved some "inside" information; I don't like to be lead on, Gambo is numero uno on my list.

We have yet to find out anything from here or 98.7 before the rest of the nation.
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Re: The Trade Thread (Booker is UNTOUCHABLE so dont even ask!) 

Post#1097 » by JMac1 » Sun Feb 14, 2016 6:34 pm

Fo-Real wrote:
Sonne wrote:keef is traded big news coming soon.....


No specifics asked for, simply questions (2) Is he leaving alone? Are we going to like this?



Thus we get responses like this. I got a hundred dollars these questions go unanswered.
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Post#1098 » by Fo-Real » Sun Feb 14, 2016 6:43 pm

Still should be asked incase there is a response. Don't know if I believe in ufo's, if someone says they saw one, I wanna hear what the say about it if anything. Then at least I can assess weather they need meds, or we need to reconsider a great many things.
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Post#1099 » by JMac1 » Sun Feb 14, 2016 6:51 pm

Fo-Real wrote:Still should be asked incase there is a response. Don't know if I believe in ufo's, if someone says they saw one, I wanna hear what the say about it if anything. Then at least I can assess weather they need meds, or we need to reconsider a great many things.



Oh, I agree with you, believe that. Excellent questions.
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Post#1100 » by sunsbum » Sun Feb 14, 2016 6:55 pm

Sonne wrote:keef is traded big news coming soon.....


32 posts. Seems legit. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
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