Official Trade Ideas Thread

[Jitpal]

Aaron Boone is playing 1B in Florida on a 1 year deal. He could probably be had for cheap. Anyone interested? At least we know he can deal with the NY pressure and gets along with everyone. .286/.388/.423 in BA/OBP/SLG with 5 HR and 28 RBIs. Worst case scenario, they show that replay of Boone hitting that homer against the Sox in '03 70,000 times on Fox the next time we play the Red Sox.

-Jitpal

[JohnnyK]

Celtics34 remember what I told you ?

http://www.realgm.com/boards/baseball/v ... highlight=

tell Johnny K the same

Salty is not Tex. And catcher is not a position of immediate need. But whatever.

[34Celtic]

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Salty is not Tex. And catcher is not a position of immediate need. But whatever.

Exactly, Tex is a Mattingly like 1B. Just because you guys like the idea of home grown arms doesn't mean its the best choice. Still, take off the glasses and look at the big picture and realize that Salty and Joba are comparable as prospects. If the Rangers offered Tex straight up for Joba we have to do it. It would be moronic not to. I understand where your coming from with the home grown talent thing, but come on dude.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/pr ... 63445.html

36 JARROD SALTALAMACCHIA, c, Braves
Wrist injury led to an off year in 2006, but he's still the game's best catching prospect
Opening Day Age: 21. ETA: 2008

75 JOBA CHAMBERLAIN, rhp, Yankees
Hawaii Winter Ball performance indicates he could be a steal with the 41st overall pick last June
Opening Day Age: 21. ETA: 2008

Nowhere is Kennedy on there.

[cmaff051]

Front of the rotation pitchers are more valuable than catchers. I'm sorry, you can't spin that any other way. I know you don't like prospects, but we have no interest in trading Joba. None at all.

Did you work for the Tampa Faction in your previous life? You seem to like the idea of trading many of our high end prospects.

[nykgeneralmanager]

Are you NUTS?! Trading Joba for Tex straight up would be bad enough, but now we're going to deal Joba for a CATCHER?! I swear, some people don't think things through.

Oh, and you chose an outdated list. That list is before Joba and Kennedy had any real pro ball experience. Wait for the midseason rankings to come out, Joba should be top 10 and Kennedy should be high as well. THEN get back to me.

Last season when Hughes was in AA, would it have been worth it to deal him straight up for Tex? No. I recall Hughes throwing a changeup (his worst pitch) to Tex 3 consecutive times in Texas in May. Tex swung at all 3, and missed all 3. Then Hughes had him 0-2 when he hurt his hammy. That is why you keep top flight arms. Joba is another ace potential pitcher just as Hughes, and both will be striking Tex out for a decade.

[NYKnSTILL!]

you know something C34 and JK I'm seriously glad your not my GM because all you seem to want to do is get a quick fix and killing the future while your at it.

so lets say Teixiera who is a Boris client demands 15 to 20 million per year
Georgy has to be resigned 15 million per year
Mariano (see Georgy)

so now the only # 1 SP left is Hughes , Moose will be gone, Clemens gone, Pettitte gone or soon to be gone

the next front end pitching prospect is 2 - 3 years away

Now you got to sign Santana ($170 MIL)
Zambrano ($140 MIL)

my F'n god how much money do you want to spend or over spend

TOTAL PRICE

CF $40 - $70 MIL
RF $ 30 MIL - $60 MIL
3B if Alex is here $ 170 MIL
if not $60 - $80 MIL

wow you guys sure got alot of money to waste , plus the bench, the bullpen, the future closer

[cmaff051]

Exactly, NYKnStill. You trade away all this cost effective pitching and then we have to get raped in the free agent market by below average pitchers.

The Yankees need to keep their cost effective pitching, or else this team will have a $300 million payroll before long.

Not trading away a future front of the rotation starter would be a start.

[JohnnyK]

You guys seriously like to jump overboard with everything you say.
"OMG you are trading away all of the Yanks prospects!"
Where the hell did anyone say that? Sheesh, I like talking about this ****, but if everyone is gonna ignore the stuff that is being written I might as well start talking to my dog again.

You obviously do not trade away all the pitching prospects, but if you can get a gold glove switch hitting first baseman who is about to enter his prime for a guy who is tearing up AA when you still have 2-3 other prospects of that caliber you obviously do it, seeing that you fill the biggest hole in the lineup at the same time. How the **** is Tex a short term fix? He's 27 ffs.
And yes, even the Yanks payroll has a ceiling, but don't make the Twins or As out of them either.

As for the Salty trade, you obviously don't trade Joba there, as I said in my previous post, but I reckon you guys were referring to C34 there...

[34Celtic]

You obviously do not trade away all the pitching prospects, but if you can get a gold glove switch hitting first baseman who is about to enter his prime for a guy who is tearing up AA when you still have 2-3 other prospects of that caliber you obviously do it, seeing that you fill the biggest hole in the lineup at the same time. How the **** is Tex a short term fix? He's 27 ffs.

I'm sorry I'm very high on Salty, but lets put it this way. If he was a Yankee prospect, you guys would be billing him as the next Posada and wouldn't want to trade him for Joba. I'm sorry I see him as a replacement for Posada and want to move Posada to first base because I think he could play there, hit .300 with 20 HR and 90 RBI for the next few years and I think Salty will be a stud. Seriously next time the Braves are on watch the game. Just do it. The guy is a stud. On that note I'm going to see the next time Trenton comes to CT so I can check out Joba. I saw them in May but Joba wasn't there yet.

[nykgeneralmanager]

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I'm sorry I'm very high on Salty, but lets put it this way. If he was a Yankee prospect, you guys would be billing him as the next Posada and wouldn't want to trade him for Joba. I'm sorry I see him as a replacement for Posada and want to move Posada to first base because I think he could play there, hit .300 with 20 HR and 90 RBI for the next few years and I think Salty will be a stud. Seriously next time the Braves are on watch the game. Just do it. The guy is a stud. On that note I'm going to see the next time Trenton comes to CT so I can check out Joba. I saw them in May but Joba wasn't there yet.

Wrong. Who in their right mind would choose a top catching prospect over a top pitching prospect?

[nykgeneralmanager]

You guys seriously like to jump overboard with everything you say.
"OMG you are trading away all of the Yanks prospects!"
Where the hell did anyone say that? Sheesh, I like talking about this ****, but if everyone is gonna ignore the stuff that is being written I might as well start talking to my dog again.

You obviously do not trade away [b]all the pitching prospects, but if you can get a gold glove switch hitting first baseman who is about to enter his prime for a guy who is tearing up AA when you still have 2-3 other prospects of that caliber you obviously do it[/b], seeing that you fill the biggest hole in the lineup at the same time. How the **** is Tex a short term fix? He's 27 ffs.
And yes, even the Yanks payroll has a ceiling, but don't make the Twins or As out of them either.

As for the Salty trade, you obviously don't trade Joba there, as I said in my previous post, but I reckon you guys were referring to C34 there...

It's not about refusing to trade all of them, its about refusing to trade the BEST. Joba is our best, and Betances is right behind him with a long way to go. I'll give them Kennedy or Horne or Clippard, but they're not touching our BEST.

[34Celtic]

Wrong. Who in their right mind would choose a top catching prospect over a top pitching prospect?

I just don't get it....apparantly we have 4 top pitching prospects in the minors. One top hitting prospect who won't be ML ready for probably 3-4 years. You guys want to get younger and better in the field, while also getting cheaper. Salty would be a Major League ready option, give us another regular making under a million bucks, and would allow us to move Jorgie (a fan favorite to first base to preserve his bat). I really just hope we don't end up giving Jorge a ridiculus contract after this year for like 4 years and expect him to catch more than two. Remember what happened with Tek and Boston.


All this is mute because ATL won't trade Salty for Joba.

[PR07]

Posada appears to be going strong and appears to still have a couple of good years behind the plate. I'd rather just wat and see what happens until Jesus Montero is ready. If we need a stopgap for 2 seasons or so, we'll get a stopgap at C.

[34Celtic]

Who is saying Jesus Montero won't turn out like Dionar Navarro?

[NYKnSTILL!]

Who is saying Jesus Montero won't turn out like Dionar Navarro?

OMG no you did not just say that !!!!

dude Jesus Montero is so good 30 teams were scouting him, he made Yankees news because it is projected that his bat will make you start talking about him over Yogi Berra on a 20 - 80 scale in power he rated 80 already in his rookie ball exhibition he was racking up hits. Stop already Montero isn't nor ever will be a poor hitter like Navarro he's on the untouchables list already.

Age: 16
Height: 6'3"
Weight: 220
Drafted: Signed out of Venezuela in 2006 for 2 million dollars
Position: Catcher (for now)
Bats: Right

Batting: Jesus Montero is 16 years old. Jesus Montero's bat is now. His bat is among the best to come out of Latin America in history. He has 80 power on a 20-80 scale, which means he has the potential to hit 40+ home runs at the major league level. He has an advanced approach at the plate, meaning that he knows how to select his pitch. We are unsure about his strikeout and walk potential due to his lack of professional experience to this point. It is very difficult to judge too much about Montero at this stage in his development. The Yankees are already adjusting his swing to allow him to hit for power to all fields, which is something usually reserved for prospects much older than Montero.

[34Celtic]

It is very difficult to judge too much about Montero at this stage in his development.

Just like it is very difficult to say anyone is a sure thing. This is why they are called prospects. Prospects.

[34Celtic]

I'm not necessarily giving my hopes opinions or wishes. Just saying nothing is a sure thing.

[nykgeneralmanager]

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I just don't get it....apparantly we have 4 top pitching prospects in the minors. One top hitting prospect who won't be ML ready for probably 3-4 years. You guys want to get younger and better in the field, while also getting cheaper. Salty would be a Major League ready option, give us another regular making under a million bucks, and would allow us to move Jorgie (a fan favorite to first base to preserve his bat). I really just hope we don't end up giving Jorge a ridiculus contract after this year for like 4 years and expect him to catch more than two. Remember what happened with Tek and Boston.


All this is mute because ATL won't trade Salty for Joba.

ATL would have Chipper Jones and John Smoltz drive Salty to the airport if it meant bringing in Joba. Now on the other hand, Cashman wouldn't even consider Joba for Salty.

[34Celtic]

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ATL would have Chipper Jones and John Smoltz drive Salty to the airport if it meant bringing in Joba. Now on the other hand, Cashman wouldn't even consider Joba for Salty.

I dont know they would. Joba is going to be the best catcher in baseball someday, mark that down. If you don't believe me watch him play, the dude is an absolute stud.....and he's one of their own...like you guys view Joba.

On the other hand I don't think Chipper and Smoltzey would get into the car together, they've been fuuuueding

[cmaff051]

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All this is mute because ATL won't trade Salty for Joba.

Are you friggin serious? That is the same team that has Buddy Carlisle and Chuck James in their starting rotation, right?

ATL would do that trade in a second, they are so strapped for pitching, thank god Cashman wouldn't do that trade.