2016 NBA Draft/College Basketball Thread

Negrodamus · Post #1401 » by **Negrodamus** » Tue Feb 16, 2016 4:04 pm

Fischella wrote:Seriously players blow by Murray defensively, saying that he is not bad defensively is hilarious.

Says the guy who thinks Ulis will be fine defensively in the NBA. That is truly hilarious.

51X3RF4N · Post #1402 » by **51X3RF4N** » Tue Feb 16, 2016 4:19 pm

Guys, Kentucky doesn't play UNC this year. Let's leave the bias and rivalries to the NCAA... haha!

Negrodamus · Post #1403 » by **Negrodamus** » Tue Feb 16, 2016 4:50 pm

51X3RF4N wrote:Guys, Kentucky doesn't play UNC this year. Let's leave the bias and rivalries to the NCAA... haha!

As a Sixer fan, last I check, I'm in the right place.

Also, I'm usually pretty critical of UK players (ie Ulis above). Like I said earlier in this thread, I'm just waiting for KAT's chicken legs and "boat feet" (whatever those are) to crumble under the pressure of his upper body.

Also like I said earlier in this thread, I'll fully admit I'm wrong about prospects. However, I don't go to the Mavs board telling Mavs/UNC fans what is and what isn't about Brice Johnson. Speaking in absolutes make you look foolish.

51X3RF4N · Post #1404 » by **51X3RF4N** » Tue Feb 16, 2016 5:11 pm

Negro, I was just playing around. Hence, the "haha" at the end of my post.

If anything though, the Mavs know all about hyped up PF's from UNC that don't pan out. (See Brandan Wright)

Negrodamus · Post #1405 » by **Negrodamus** » Tue Feb 16, 2016 5:13 pm

51X3RF4N wrote:Negro, I was just playing around. Hence, the "haha" at the end of my post.

If anything though, the Mavs know all about hyped up PF's from UNC that don't pan out. (See Brandan Wright)

I know, I'm just hammering my point home about our Mavs/UNC visitor in this thread.

dkj5061 · Post #1406 » by **dkj5061** » Tue Feb 16, 2016 6:04 pm

Fischella wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:Murray and Valentine cant play PG in the NBA and they cant surely defend PGs.
Valentine gets assisted in a ton of his shots, he is a good passer but he is not going to make plays off the dribble at the next level, he is a spot up shooter.
Murray hasnt even shown the ability to set up teammates, taking him at 4 would be a monumental reach also.

I agree that Murray might not be a true point guard with the ability to set up his teammates effectively. However, if we were to get Ben Simmons at 1, I think Murray is a MUCH better fit at point guard than Dunn. Simmons and Dunn (and Okafor for that matter) are too dependent on having the ball in their hands to maximize their strengths to play together. In my opinion, if we get Simmons, we should absolutely plan our team around him and his ability to play a point forward role. Murray, as a shooting point guard that can spread the floor, would be ideal next to Simmons. His defensive limitations are an issue, but he is the third most talented scorer in this draft (Hield, Ingram) and I would take a shot on him (if we get Simmons. Disregard all of this if we get Ingram or someone else).

XtremeDunkz · Post #1407 » by **XtremeDunkz** » Tue Feb 16, 2016 6:39 pm

I'd rather the Lakers pick carry over to next year.

iMoreland · Post #1408 » by **iMoreland** » Thu Feb 18, 2016 2:49 am

Brandon Ingram has ugly tattoos

Embiid P · Post #1409 » by **Embiid P** » Thu Feb 18, 2016 4:29 am

Wow what a great game. Ingram didn't have a great night shooting the ball, but he did come through when it mattered which shows he has ice water in his veins.

USWAY · Post #1410 » by **USWAY** » Thu Feb 18, 2016 4:24 pm

I've tried extremely hard not to enamor myself with the idea of drafting Ingram because I think this is the year we finally get the #1 and Ben Simmons has looked like no-brainer but Ingram's play lately sure has made that very difficult. They are both elite prospects. Someone mentioned that if we get the #1 and Lakers fall to #4 we should trade up and try and get both. Sounds crazy but if that happens we have got to pursue it.

51X3RF4N · Post #1411 » by **51X3RF4N** » Thu Feb 18, 2016 4:43 pm

Stinky Hinkie wrote:Wow what a great game. Ingram didn't have a great night shooting the ball, but he did come through when it mattered which shows he has ice water in his veins.

I watched the 2nd half.... Ingram matched up against Pinson (6'6) or anyone else, he had his way. Ingram matched up against Hicks and Johnson (6'9 and athletic defenders), he struggled to get clean shots off. He made some impressive moves, but if Johnson and Hicks can slow him down, I wonder...

Ericb5 · Post #1412 » by **Ericb5** » Thu Feb 18, 2016 4:43 pm

51X3RF4N wrote:Negro, I was just playing around. Hence, the "haha" at the end of my post.

If anything though, the Mavs know all about hyped up PF's from UNC that don't pan out. (See Brandan Wright)

I realize that "Negro" is short for "Negrodamus", but that reads pretty funny. :lol:

51X3RF4N · Post #1413 » by **51X3RF4N** » Thu Feb 18, 2016 4:48 pm

Ericb5 wrote:
51X3RF4N wrote:Negro, I was just playing around. Hence, the "haha" at the end of my post.

If anything though, the Mavs know all about hyped up PF's from UNC that don't pan out. (See Brandan Wright)

I realize that "Negro" is short for "Negrodamus", but that reads pretty funny.

Honestly, this is 2016. I didn't even notice it, because that's not where my mind goes. Lol

Ericb5 · Post #1414 » by **Ericb5** » Thu Feb 18, 2016 4:54 pm

51X3RF4N wrote:
Ericb5 wrote:
51X3RF4N wrote:Negro, I was just playing around. Hence, the "haha" at the end of my post.

If anything though, the Mavs know all about hyped up PF's from UNC that don't pan out. (See Brandan Wright)

I realize that "Negro" is short for "Negrodamus", but that reads pretty funny.

Honestly, this is 2016. I didn't even notice it, because that's not where my mind goes. Lol

My mind doesn't go there either, but reading it with a fresh set of eyes made it stick out. :lol:

ET Da Gawd · Post #1415 » by **ET Da Gawd** » Thu Feb 18, 2016 7:16 pm

51X3RF4N wrote:
Stinky Hinkie wrote:Wow what a great game. Ingram didn't have a great night shooting the ball, but he did come through when it mattered which shows he has ice water in his veins.

I watched the 2nd half.... Ingram matched up against Pinson (6'6) or anyone else, he had his way. Ingram matched up against Hicks and Johnson (6'9 and athletic defenders), he struggled to get clean shots off. He made some impressive moves, but if Johnson and Hicks can slow him down, I wonder...

Exactly, strong defenders will be a struggle for him unless he gets on that andrew bynum workout plan and truly make gains in the gym, his finishing isn't too strong either

Negrodamus · Post #1416 » by **Negrodamus** » Thu Feb 18, 2016 7:34 pm

ET Da Gawd wrote:
51X3RF4N wrote:
Stinky Hinkie wrote:Wow what a great game. Ingram didn't have a great night shooting the ball, but he did come through when it mattered which shows he has ice water in his veins.

I watched the 2nd half.... Ingram matched up against Pinson (6'6) or anyone else, he had his way. Ingram matched up against Hicks and Johnson (6'9 and athletic defenders), he struggled to get clean shots off. He made some impressive moves, but if Johnson and Hicks can slow him down, I wonder...

Exactly, strong defenders will be a struggle for him unless he gets on that andrew bynum workout plan and truly make gains in the gym, his finishing isn't too strong either

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTo72_2HUUM[/youtube]

Draftexpress did a pretty cool video on the matchup last night. He does need to get more creative with his ISOs, but he does a great job of getting space to take a solid shot. His ability off the ball is what makes him really great. Limits his propensity for making mistakes like turnovers from forcing offense while setting the distributors up for success. Desperately needs to get stronger.

Negrodamus · Post #1417 » by **Negrodamus** » Thu Feb 18, 2016 7:38 pm

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SSsjvO5a4g[/youtube]

You can't tell me this kid isn't going to be a top 5 pick. He's too good of a playmaker. Averaging 26 ppg over the last 4. He and Ulis will be the only reasons that UK makes any run.

iMoreland · Post #1418 » by **iMoreland** » Thu Feb 18, 2016 8:15 pm

My big board is still

1. Ben Simmons

2. Brandon Ingram

3. Jamal Murray

snoopdogg88 · Post #1419 » by **snoopdogg88** » Thu Feb 18, 2016 11:29 pm

finally people are starting to jump back on the Jamal Murray wagon

Ericb5 · Post #1420 » by **Ericb5** » Thu Feb 18, 2016 11:39 pm

snoopdogg88 wrote:finally people are starting to jump back on the Jamal Murray wagon

I was never really on or off it. To me he still seems like the same guy that I thought he was in the beginning of the year. He is not a point guard, but has some scoring and passing ability. I would be happy to take him in the top 10, but probably not any higher than 6th.

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