What to do with Bledsoe and Knight?

Post #41 » by **lilfishi22** » Wed Feb 17, 2016 10:37 pm

RunandGunSuns wrote:Pulling off a James harden deal would be epic...
But far fetched and would hinder the development of booker!

Pick N Roll at its best with a side of pop! RIP Amare + Nash

You mean 17th in the league (teams included) in total possessions, James Harden?

SkinnyOMiller · Post #42 » by **SkinnyOMiller** » Thu Feb 18, 2016 10:04 pm

Trade Knight, keep Bledsoe. Neither is a traditional PG, both are turnover prone but at least Bledsoe is a very good defender. With the addition of the Washington pick now, I'd like to see the Suns go after Demetrius Jackson of Notre Dame. A smaller guard but an intelligent, pass first guard with a lot of explosiveness that could wind up being a very good fit.

saintEscaton · Post #43 » by **saintEscaton** » Fri Feb 19, 2016 2:29 am

SkinnyOMiller wrote:Trade Knight, keep Bledsoe. Neither is a traditional PG, both are turnover prone but at least Bledsoe is a very good defender. With the addition of the Washington pick now, I'd like to see the Suns go after Demetrius Jackson of Notre Dame. A smaller guard but an intelligent, pass first guard with a lot of explosiveness that could wind up being a very good fit.

Bingo

Frank Lee · Post #44 » by **Frank Lee** » Fri Feb 19, 2016 3:36 am

If we end up with the 3+ pick, it seems to me, Dunn would be the proper selection. He looks like a game changer. If that is the way it shakes out, I try to trade them both.

essentially,with the cap exploding, there will be no salary restrictions on deals so they can go for picks or players.

A Dunn/Booker back court looks like something that could be very promising. Both Bled and Knight would just muddle the progress.

Damkac · Post #45 » by **Damkac** » Fri Feb 19, 2016 10:41 am

What teams have high pick/young talent and need pg badly? I guess it mosly depend on the drafting order. Don't see anyone trading top 2 pick but maybe Bledsoe or Knight could get top 5 from team like Philly, LAL, Minny, NO or Milwaukee?

MathiasPW · Post #46 » by **MathiasPW** » Fri Feb 19, 2016 11:34 am

Damkac wrote:What teams have high pick/young talent and need pg badly? I guess it mosly depend on the drafting order. Don't see anyone trading top 2 pick but maybe Bledsoe or Knight could get top 5 from team like Philly, LAL, Minny, NO or Milwaukee?

Only Philly out of the teams you mentioned needs PG talent. Others have it, or may be developing it.

Nets and Knicks need PGs, so does Utah, to some extent

Damkac · Post #47 » by **Damkac** » Fri Feb 19, 2016 11:44 am

I though that Minny and Mil are not fully pleased with Rubio and MCW. Nets and Knick sadly have nothing that should interest us. Do you think Utah would give Exum for one of our guards?

Bogyo · Post #48 » by **Bogyo** » Fri Feb 19, 2016 12:21 pm

And it's not like New Orleans couldn't use an upgrade in their playmaking... Jrue, Norris Cole and Ish?
I would trade Knight for their pick and something, depending on who is available at 5-6-7 where they'll pick. Although their playmaking wouldn't get better with another combo guard, and I don"t see anyone on their roster who would be worth for us to give up Bled.

jeff2020 · Post #49 » by **jeff2020** » Fri Feb 19, 2016 2:09 pm

If we somehow land the #1 pick and get Ben Simmons I say we trade Bledsoe to build around Simmons. Having Knight and Booker to space the floor would be huge since Simmons can't shoot himself anyway. Basically have Simmons be the Point Forward and run the half court offense through him whether he is taking the bigs off the dribble to drive and kick or posting up the smaller defender. Add in a stretch 4, Tele, would like an upgrade though and that's a pretty solid start. Bring warren off the bench as the 6th man and see how that works. Bledsoe just wouldn't fit with Simmons at all. But if we don't land Simmons knight is the player to trade

MathiasPW · Post #50 » by **MathiasPW** » Fri Feb 19, 2016 2:16 pm

Wolves were only shopping Rubio because they have Lavine. Milwaukee you may be right. I guess Kidd has high standards for a PG, already shipping Knight and now supposedly MCW (former ROY) away

nashchill · Post #51 » by **nashchill** » Fri Feb 19, 2016 4:43 pm

Not eager to try and trade either because I think they have lost too much of their value.

Amareca · Post #52 » by **Amareca** » Fri Feb 19, 2016 4:59 pm

Frank Lee wrote:If we end up with the 3+ pick, it seems to me, Dunn would be the proper selection. He looks like a game changer. If that is the way it shakes out, I try to trade them both.

essentially,with the cap exploding, there will be no salary restrictions on deals so they can go for picks or players.

A Dunn/Booker back court looks like something that could be very promising. Both Bled and Knight would just muddle the progress.

Dunn projects to be what Bledsoe and Knight already are and is not that much younger even. Assuming he does not bust.

Dunn is the same age as Archie and Archie is a very good comparison for him.

Makes zero sense, but typical Frank Lee circlejerk.

Amareca · Post #53 » by **Amareca** » Fri Feb 19, 2016 5:01 pm

jeff2020 wrote:If we somehow land the #1 pick and get Ben Simmons I say we trade Bledsoe to build around Simmons. Having Knight and Booker to space the floor would be huge since Simmons can't shoot himself anyway. Basically have Simmons be the Point Forward and run the half court offense through him whether he is taking the bigs off the dribble to drive and kick or posting up the smaller defender. Add in a stretch 4, Tele, would like an upgrade though and that's a pretty solid start. Bring warren off the bench as the 6th man and see how that works. Bledsoe just wouldn't fit with Simmons at all. But if we don't land Simmons knight is the player to trade

Bledsoe is as good a shooter as Knight and brings a lot more intagnibles such as defense.
Bledsoe would be relieved to not carry the offense 100% of the time. Our record with Bledsoe and without him is night and day.

Amareca · Post #54 » by **Amareca** » Fri Feb 19, 2016 5:03 pm

Damkac wrote:I though that Minny and Mil are not fully pleased with Rubio and MCW. Nets and Knick sadly have nothing that should interest us. Do you think Utah would give Exum for one of our guards?

Exum has shown literally nothing and we have plenty shooting guards with Booker, Knight, Goodwin and Bogdan and some of the best draft prospects at each of our pick ranges are shooting guards.

Amareca · Post #55 » by **Amareca** » Fri Feb 19, 2016 5:05 pm

SkinnyOMiller wrote:Trade Knight, keep Bledsoe. Neither is a traditional PG, both are turnover prone but at least Bledsoe is a very good defender. With the addition of the Washington pick now, I'd like to see the Suns go after Demetrius Jackson of Notre Dame. A smaller guard but an intelligent, pass first guard with a lot of explosiveness that could wind up being a very good fit.

"Traditional" PGs are not winning anything.

Amareca · Post #56 » by **Amareca** » Fri Feb 19, 2016 5:06 pm

lilfishi22 wrote:
RunandGunSuns wrote:Pulling off a James harden deal would be epic...
But far fetched and would hinder the development of booker!

Pick N Roll at its best with a side of pop! RIP Amare + Nash

You mean 17th in the league (teams included) in total possessions, James Harden?

James Harden would be poison to Booker.

TheFire · Post #57 » by **TheFire** » Fri Feb 19, 2016 5:06 pm

If not Bledsoe or Knight, who else would you guys have as our starting PG?

Amareca · Post #58 » by **Amareca** » Fri Feb 19, 2016 5:10 pm

Frank Lee wrote:
TOO wrote:Since taking them for a long drive into the woods and leaving them there isn't an option, trade them both.

can't see it being a bad thing.... or at least a 'worse' thing. By the time this team is relevant... Bledsoe and his trail boss RPaul will be off to greener pastures.

Seriously wonder how you are not banned yet. You do absolutely nothing but trolling on this board as well as spreading your negativity and hateful messages.

saintEscaton · Post #59 » by **saintEscaton** » Fri Feb 19, 2016 5:14 pm

Amareca wrote:
Frank Lee wrote:If we end up with the 3+ pick, it seems to me, Dunn would be the proper selection. He looks like a game changer. If that is the way it shakes out, I try to trade them both.

essentially,with the cap exploding, there will be no salary restrictions on deals so they can go for picks or players.

A Dunn/Booker back court looks like something that could be very promising. Both Bled and Knight would just muddle the progress.

Dunn projects to be what Bledsoe and Knight already are and is not that much younger even. Assuming he does not bust.

Dunn is the same age as Archie and Archie is a very good comparison for him.

Makes zero sense, but typical Frank Lee circlejerk.

Settle down there young grasshopper. Dunn sometimes tries to improvise too much with his razzle dazzle forced passes but he projects to be a better distributor than any of our guards,

For reference

saintEscaton · Post #60 » by **saintEscaton** » Fri Feb 19, 2016 5:17 pm

Amareca wrote:
Frank Lee wrote:
TOO wrote:Since taking them for a long drive into the woods and leaving them there isn't an option, trade them both.

can't see it being a bad thing.... or at least a 'worse' thing. By the time this team is relevant... Bledsoe and his trail boss RPaul will be off to greener pastures.

Seriously wonder how you are not banned yet. You do absolutely nothing but trolling on this board as well as spreading your negativity and hateful messages.

I'm trying to cut you slack as a new poster, but you're pushing it.. Frank has been a mainstay and if you can't tolerate sardonic humor and witticism, you can leave. This board is a open forum for dissenting voices, not an echo-chamber hugbox

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