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Re: "Rockets Will Consider Waiving Ty Lawson" 

Post#21 » by Flaming Mo » Thu Feb 18, 2016 6:24 pm

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BodyCount wrote:Drunk ty lawson is still most likely better at D then cAlderon, so I'm all for it.


sober Ty > Teague


Well, the only Problem is that Lawson is a knucklehead and it seems that he really never understood that Houston was a second Chance for him...
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Re: "Rockets Will Consider Waiving Ty Lawson" 

Post#22 » by SelbyCobra » Thu Feb 18, 2016 6:29 pm

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BodyCount wrote:Drunk ty lawson is still most likely better at D then cAlderon, so I'm all for it.


sober Ty > Teague


Well, the only Problem is that Lawson is a knucklehead and it seems that he really never understood that Houston was a second Chance for him...


Heard rumors he stays in Houston bars like

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Re: "Rockets Will Consider Waiving Ty Lawson" 

Post#23 » by Fat » Thu Feb 18, 2016 6:32 pm

Your 2016-17 New York knicks behold

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Re: "Rockets Will Consider Waiving Ty Lawson" 

Post#24 » by Dantares » Thu Feb 18, 2016 6:35 pm

Nyk_Fatboy wrote:Your 2016-17 New York knicks behold

Lawson
Affalo
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Porzingis


replace nene with pau and i can roll with that
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Re: "Rockets Will Consider Waiving Ty Lawson" 

Post#25 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Feb 18, 2016 8:20 pm

Ah, the next thread where hope comes to die
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Re: "Rockets Will Consider Waiving Ty Lawson" 

Post#26 » by King of Canada » Thu Feb 18, 2016 8:50 pm

A drunk PG > Calderon
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Re: "Rockets Will Consider Waiving Ty Lawson" 

Post#27 » by kane » Thu Feb 18, 2016 8:55 pm

i dont know ty lawson but i know that playing on a team with dwight howard and james harden would drive the pope to drink
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Re: "Rockets Will Consider Waiving Ty Lawson" 

Post#28 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Feb 18, 2016 9:09 pm

Wait, let's get Felton, Lawson and convince Marbury to come back from China. We can have the "Fat, Drunk and Stupid" PG rotation.
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Re: "Rockets Will Consider Waiving Ty Lawson" 

Post#29 » by moocow007 » Thu Feb 18, 2016 9:18 pm

Are the Grizzlies thinking about waiving Stephenson? I don't think so.
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Re: "Rockets Will Consider Waiving Ty Lawson" 

Post#30 » by nykballa2k4 » Thu Feb 18, 2016 9:22 pm

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lets not pat any people on the back because of time spent here. we have mods who have been here a decade and dont understand what "assets" are. and besides that , some of the most actively daft posters here, have been here forever. self included o/

all Im saying is that he joined about half a season into Jacksons tenure and made his handle FirePjax

which is pretty pathetic to me



unfortunately many can already see the future, because weve been here before. Im not completely giving up on Jax yet, but I dont see it ending in any form of success. I expect him to bail back to LA, long before were a 500 team again. This FA is already looking like another strike out. The Kid might be onto something, but unfortunately were gunna have to sit through and deal with it.



While I agree it would be nice if Phil was able to trade Afflalo and Grant during the weekend for Draymond Green, I think that Phil has done VERY well with what he has had to offer. Afflalo signed for 2year16M what starting 2 guard was a better deal? KOQ signed for less than 4M per for 4 years, who was a better option at that price? Derrick Williams signed for less than the MLE. Robin Lopez has been better than advertised and the only player you could say would have been better is Kosta Koufos.

Phil has made 1 error since being GM, and that's mistaking Jose Calderon for a better passing Steve Blake. Jose has been a PnR player for too long, the transition clearly is not as easy. Usually Euro pg's excel in ball-movement offenses, he isn't. I bet Phil wishes he could have an Xbox controller hooked up to Jose to help him pass to the right guy and to shoot at the right time.
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Re: "Rockets Will Consider Waiving Ty Lawson" 

Post#31 » by vallen » Thu Feb 18, 2016 9:46 pm

nykballa2k4 wrote:
vallen wrote:
NoLayupRule wrote:all Im saying is that he joined about half a season into Jacksons tenure and made his handle FirePjax

which is pretty pathetic to me



unfortunately many can already see the future, because weve been here before. Im not completely giving up on Jax yet, but I dont see it ending in any form of success. I expect him to bail back to LA, long before were a 500 team again. This FA is already looking like another strike out. The Kid might be onto something, but unfortunately were gunna have to sit through and deal with it.



While I agree it would be nice if Phil was able to trade Afflalo and Grant during the weekend for Draymond Green, I think that Phil has done VERY well with what he has had to offer. Afflalo signed for 2year16M what starting 2 guard was a better deal? KOQ signed for less than 4M per for 4 years, who was a better option at that price? Derrick Williams signed for less than the MLE. Robin Lopez has been better than advertised and the only player you could say would have been better is Kosta Koufos.

Phil has made 1 error since being GM, and that's mistaking Jose Calderon for a better passing Steve Blake. Jose has been a PnR player for too long, the transition clearly is not as easy. Usually Euro pg's excel in ball-movement offenses, he isn't. I bet Phil wishes he could have an Xbox controller hooked up to Jose to help him pass to the right guy and to shoot at the right time.



Im glad your enjoying the season, and I wouldnt want to take that away from you. But writing down a bunch of names and their salary's doesnt change the fact that they suck. Lets hope the new coach proves me wrong. But i dont think God could coach these scrubs, and their contracts, to the playoffs. but we'll see. keep hoping eh ?
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Re: "Rockets Will Consider Waiving Ty Lawson" 

Post#32 » by Fat » Thu Feb 18, 2016 9:50 pm

Dantares wrote:
Nyk_Fatboy wrote:Your 2016-17 New York knicks behold

Lawson
Affalo
Carmelo
Nene
Porzingis


replace nene with pau and i can roll with that


im convinced melo only knows how to recruit his former Denver buddies

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Re: "Rockets Will Consider Waiving Ty Lawson" 

Post#33 » by mpharris36 » Thu Feb 18, 2016 9:52 pm

moocow007 wrote:Are the Grizzlies thinking about waiving Stephenson? I don't think so.


stephenson, barnes, zack randolph, and bridman would be an interesting 4 guys on the court hahah
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Re: "Rockets Will Consider Waiving Ty Lawson" 

Post#34 » by NY2TheBay » Thu Feb 18, 2016 10:19 pm

So potentially Stephenson and Lawson as waive candidates?

Think Stephenson in NY might be a nightmare and Lawson may not be too far off either. Rental to see if it could work might be worth it though.
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Re: "Rockets Will Consider Waiving Ty Lawson" 

Post#35 » by god shammgod » Thu Feb 18, 2016 10:30 pm

the knicks have been a nightmare for a decade and a half. what's one more bad dream ?
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Post#36 » by NY2TheBay » Thu Feb 18, 2016 10:36 pm

I dont like nightmares. But if so, give me a good melatonin herbal blend so I dont remember it.
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"Rockets Will Consider Waiving Ty Lawson" 

Post#37 » by BKAY » Thu Feb 18, 2016 10:48 pm

nykballa2k4 wrote:
vallen wrote:
NoLayupRule wrote:all Im saying is that he joined about half a season into Jacksons tenure and made his handle FirePjax

which is pretty pathetic to me



unfortunately many can already see the future, because weve been here before. Im not completely giving up on Jax yet, but I dont see it ending in any form of success. I expect him to bail back to LA, long before were a 500 team again. This FA is already looking like another strike out. The Kid might be onto something, but unfortunately were gunna have to sit through and deal with it.



While I agree it would be nice if Phil was able to trade Afflalo and Grant during the weekend for Draymond Green, I think that Phil has done VERY well with what he has had to offer. Afflalo signed for 2year16M what starting 2 guard was a better deal? KOQ signed for less than 4M per for 4 years, who was a better option at that price? Derrick Williams signed for less than the MLE. Robin Lopez has been better than advertised and the only player you could say would have been better is Kosta Koufos.

Phil has made 1 error since being GM, and that's mistaking Jose Calderon for a better passing Steve Blake. Jose has been a PnR player for too long, the transition clearly is not as easy. Usually Euro pg's excel in ball-movement offenses, he isn't. I bet Phil wishes he could have an Xbox controller hooked up to Jose to help him pass to the right guy and to shoot at the right time.


Phil's taking a big picture approach but most on here are so obsessed at making the playoffs this year (small picture) at any cost they throw rationality out the window. Basketball is a game. The NBA is a business and sometimes you have to throw away a season or two to get to a better place. Before the season started most said they'd be satisfied with a 32 -35 win team. We are certainly on that path so Idk what all the fuss is about the playoffs being a must. There are allot of great posters on here but there are a bunch of terrible ones who love to push agendas and circle jerk the same dead horse points. I don't think making a trade was the be all end all of Phil's success in NY


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Post#38 » by xNewYorkMadex » Thu Feb 18, 2016 10:57 pm

I only wanted Lawson to get rid of Calderon.

After a rough November and a mediocre December, he did pick up his play in January. Knicks need to take chances if they are serious about making the playoffs. Try to catch lightning in a bottle.

I dont really care what we do at this point since I dont see this team all of a sudden turning it around and make the playoffs.
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Re: "Rockets Will Consider Waiving Ty Lawson" 

Post#39 » by nykballa2k4 » Thu Feb 18, 2016 10:58 pm

vallen wrote:
nykballa2k4 wrote:
vallen wrote:

unfortunately many can already see the future, because weve been here before. Im not completely giving up on Jax yet, but I dont see it ending in any form of success. I expect him to bail back to LA, long before were a 500 team again. This FA is already looking like another strike out. The Kid might be onto something, but unfortunately were gunna have to sit through and deal with it.



While I agree it would be nice if Phil was able to trade Afflalo and Grant during the weekend for Draymond Green, I think that Phil has done VERY well with what he has had to offer. Afflalo signed for 2year16M what starting 2 guard was a better deal? KOQ signed for less than 4M per for 4 years, who was a better option at that price? Derrick Williams signed for less than the MLE. Robin Lopez has been better than advertised and the only player you could say would have been better is Kosta Koufos.

Phil has made 1 error since being GM, and that's mistaking Jose Calderon for a better passing Steve Blake. Jose has been a PnR player for too long, the transition clearly is not as easy. Usually Euro pg's excel in ball-movement offenses, he isn't. I bet Phil wishes he could have an Xbox controller hooked up to Jose to help him pass to the right guy and to shoot at the right time.



Im glad your enjoying the season, and I wouldnt want to take that away from you. But writing down a bunch of names and their salary's doesnt change the fact that they suck. Lets hope the new coach proves me wrong. But i dont think God could coach these scrubs, and their contracts, to the playoffs. but we'll see. keep hoping eh ?


Think of it this way. Look at the Mets. Their team, on the field looked abysmal last season. They added 1, bat and Wright got healthy. That knocked everyone down to a better slot. Instead of 3 .200 guys in the back of the order, and .250 guys in the front, they put one big name in there and everyone moved into a more appropriate slot.

If you take our current core, we basically look a lot like a contender that is missing one of their big names. If CLE was without LeBron, TOR without Val, OKC without Durant/Westbrook(pick one), you'd have a roster similar to ours. Those teams are towards the top. If we were to wave a wand and magically get D-Wade on this team w/o giving up an asset, we may be a contender. IMO we area coach away from being the Pacers. I think our team is actually better/more talented than they are.

As much as everyone wants to say "9 games below, we have no chance" If someone said when we were .500 that we'd go 2-9 I think we'd have scoffed. We pick up two quick wins vs inferior teams (which there are statistically few of) and then go 3-2 against some low-tier PF teams, that's a 5-2 start, and now our 9 down is cut to 6 down. Much more manageable.

Next 11 games:
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Their is ONE game there where we don't have a chance. Strong effort, and good dice rolling, and we are back in the hunt. Particularly since we are playing SIX teams ahead of us in the playoff picture (not counting westerners).

I am confident that 10 games from now, we may be looking at a MUCH smaller gap. Unfortunately, I am not on the team, nor interacting with the team (unless they choose to read) so I cannot really share my vibe with them, but hopefully Phil breaks out his good stuff, got off his boney azz and spent time around the team in practice.

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Post#40 » by nykballa2k4 » Thu Feb 18, 2016 10:59 pm

King of Canada wrote:A drunk PG > Calderon


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