"Rockets Will Consider Waiving Ty Lawson"

[moocow007]

the knicks have been a nightmare for a decade and a half. what's one more bad dream ?

Speaking of nightmares, I had one last night. I was standing at half court in MSG with nothing but a short white t shirt and a pair of dress socks (no, NOTHING else) with the arena full of spectators. And there was a very strong cold breeze.

[SoCalKnickFan]

the knicks have been a nightmare for a decade and a half. what's one more bad dream ?

Speaking of nightmares, I had one last night. I was standing at half court in MSG with nothing but a short white t shirt and a pair of dress socks (no, NOTHING else) with the arena full of spectators. And there was a very strong cold breeze.

You're spending WAY too much time on this forum.

[Carl_Karlson]

the knicks have been a nightmare for a decade and a half. what's one more bad dream ?

Speaking of nightmares, I had one last night. I was standing at half court in MSG with nothing but a short white t shirt and a pair of dress socks (no, NOTHING else) with the arena full of spectators. And there was a very strong cold breeze.

Did Becky go interview you?

[vallen]

While I agree it would be nice if Phil was able to trade Afflalo and Grant during the weekend for Draymond Green, I think that Phil has done VERY well with what he has had to offer. Afflalo signed for 2year16M what starting 2 guard was a better deal? KOQ signed for less than 4M per for 4 years, who was a better option at that price? Derrick Williams signed for less than the MLE. Robin Lopez has been better than advertised and the only player you could say would have been better is Kosta Koufos.

Phil has made 1 error since being GM, and that's mistaking Jose Calderon for a better passing Steve Blake. Jose has been a PnR player for too long, the transition clearly is not as easy. Usually Euro pg's excel in ball-movement offenses, he isn't. I bet Phil wishes he could have an Xbox controller hooked up to Jose to help him pass to the right guy and to shoot at the right time.

Im glad your enjoying the season, and I wouldnt want to take that away from you. But writing down a bunch of names and their salary's doesnt change the fact that they suck. Lets hope the new coach proves me wrong. But i dont think God could coach these scrubs, and their contracts, to the playoffs. but we'll see. keep hoping eh ?

Think of it this way. Look at the Mets. Their team, on the field looked abysmal last season. They added 1, bat and Wright got healthy. That knocked everyone down to a better slot. Instead of 3 .200 guys in the back of the order, and .250 guys in the front, they put one big name in there and everyone moved into a more appropriate slot.

If you take our current core, we basically look a lot like a contender that is missing one of their big names. If CLE was without LeBron, TOR without Val, OKC without Durant/Westbrook(pick one), you'd have a roster similar to ours. Those teams are towards the top. If we were to wave a wand and magically get D-Wade on this team w/o giving up an asset, we may be a contender. IMO we area coach away from being the Pacers. I think our team is actually better/more talented than they are.

As much as everyone wants to say "9 games below, we have no chance" If someone said when we were .500 that we'd go 2-9 I think we'd have scoffed. We pick up two quick wins vs inferior teams (which there are statistically few of) and then go 3-2 against some low-tier PF teams, that's a 5-2 start, and now our 9 down is cut to 6 down. Much more manageable.

Next 11 games:
Nets (we should win) Wolves (should win) Raps (played close, split so far, 50-50), Pacers (even talent, could go either way) Magic (owned us, but lost key players, 50-50 shot here) Heat (Bosh is down, struggling team), Blazers (Varejao!), Celtics (split so far, could go either way), Pistons (another team we have split so far, lots of improvements, but must adjust), Nuggets (no excuses here), Suns (ironic Suns having fire sales), Clippers (now Lance-free! Easy loss).
Their is ONE game there where we don't have a chance. Strong effort, and good dice rolling, and we are back in the hunt. Particularly since we are playing SIX teams ahead of us in the playoff picture (not counting westerners).

I am confident that 10 games from now, we may be looking at a MUCH smaller gap. Unfortunately, I am not on the team, nor interacting with the team (unless they choose to read) so I cannot really share my vibe with them, but hopefully Phil breaks out his good stuff, got off his boney azz and spent time around the team in practice.

LETS GO KNICKS

hmm, looks like you took my advice from earlier.......

"you guys are better off coming up with new ways to justify Phil striking out again. We arent getting anything."


Playoffs is the least of my worries. I hoped like many here, that Phil would have an influence on people wanting to come help rebuild NY basketball. However all ive seen is people telling Phil no. Fishes was second maybe third choice, and you see what happens when you settle. Now he wants to give us a coach who is a known failure. and then in FA we had player chose DET over us. Imagine that, someone wanting to live in DET, over play with Phil and Melo. Again settling for FA's that were 3rd maybe 4th choices on the list, and again what happens when you settle.

Oh and with very little improvement you can imagine what were going to end up with in the coming FA. The cap can go up all it wants, but when Phil strikes out on all the big targets again, and we pay his 3rd and 4th option, first options money, and he goes back to LA, were gunna be stuck another 3-4 years before we can once again clear cap, and start over. But at least we have Melo to play 3/4 of a season every year.

[King of Canada]

the knicks have been a nightmare for a decade and a half. what's one more bad dream ?

Speaking of nightmares, I had one last night. I was standing at half court in MSG with nothing but a short white t shirt and a pair of dress socks (no, NOTHING else) with the arena full of spectators. And there was a very strong cold breeze.

Ha, that was you?

[fresko024]

Im glad your enjoying the season, and I wouldnt want to take that away from you. But writing down a bunch of names and their salary's doesnt change the fact that they suck. Lets hope the new coach proves me wrong. But i dont think God could coach these scrubs, and their contracts, to the playoffs. but we'll see. keep hoping eh ?

Think of it this way. Look at the Mets. Their team, on the field looked abysmal last season. They added 1, bat and Wright got healthy. That knocked everyone down to a better slot. Instead of 3 .200 guys in the back of the order, and .250 guys in the front, they put one big name in there and everyone moved into a more appropriate slot.

If you take our current core, we basically look a lot like a contender that is missing one of their big names. If CLE was without LeBron, TOR without Val, OKC without Durant/Westbrook(pick one), you'd have a roster similar to ours. Those teams are towards the top. If we were to wave a wand and magically get D-Wade on this team w/o giving up an asset, we may be a contender. IMO we area coach away from being the Pacers. I think our team is actually better/more talented than they are.

As much as everyone wants to say "9 games below, we have no chance" If someone said when we were .500 that we'd go 2-9 I think we'd have scoffed. We pick up two quick wins vs inferior teams (which there are statistically few of) and then go 3-2 against some low-tier PF teams, that's a 5-2 start, and now our 9 down is cut to 6 down. Much more manageable.

Next 11 games:
Nets (we should win) Wolves (should win) Raps (played close, split so far, 50-50), Pacers (even talent, could go either way) Magic (owned us, but lost key players, 50-50 shot here) Heat (Bosh is down, struggling team), Blazers (Varejao!), Celtics (split so far, could go either way), Pistons (another team we have split so far, lots of improvements, but must adjust), Nuggets (no excuses here), Suns (ironic Suns having fire sales), Clippers (now Lance-free! Easy loss).
Their is ONE game there where we don't have a chance. Strong effort, and good dice rolling, and we are back in the hunt. Particularly since we are playing SIX teams ahead of us in the playoff picture (not counting westerners).

I am confident that 10 games from now, we may be looking at a MUCH smaller gap. Unfortunately, I am not on the team, nor interacting with the team (unless they choose to read) so I cannot really share my vibe with them, but hopefully Phil breaks out his good stuff, got off his boney azz and spent time around the team in practice.

LETS GO KNICKS

hmm, looks like you took my advice from earlier.......

"you guys are better off coming up with new ways to justify Phil striking out again. We arent getting anything."


Playoffs is the least of my worries. I hoped like many here, that Phil would have an influence on people wanting to come help rebuild NY basketball. However all ive seen is people telling Phil no. Fishes was second maybe third choice, and you see what happens when you settle. Now he wants to give us a coach who is a known failure. and then in FA we had player chose DET over us. Imagine that, someone wanting to live in DET, over play with Phil and Melo. Again settling for FA's that were 3rd maybe 4th choices on the list, and again what happens when you settle.

Oh and with very little improvement you can imagine what were going to end up with in the coming FA. The cap can go up all it wants, but when Phil strikes out on all the big targets again, and we pay his 3rd and 4th option, first options money, and he goes back to LA, were gunna be stuck another 3-4 years before we can once again clear cap, and start over. But at least we have Melo to play 3/4 of a season every year.

Not signing Monroe was a blessing. His defense is non-existent

[vallen]

Think of it this way. Look at the Mets. Their team, on the field looked abysmal last season. They added 1, bat and Wright got healthy. That knocked everyone down to a better slot. Instead of 3 .200 guys in the back of the order, and .250 guys in the front, they put one big name in there and everyone moved into a more appropriate slot.

If you take our current core, we basically look a lot like a contender that is missing one of their big names. If CLE was without LeBron, TOR without Val, OKC without Durant/Westbrook(pick one), you'd have a roster similar to ours. Those teams are towards the top. If we were to wave a wand and magically get D-Wade on this team w/o giving up an asset, we may be a contender. IMO we area coach away from being the Pacers. I think our team is actually better/more talented than they are.

As much as everyone wants to say "9 games below, we have no chance" If someone said when we were .500 that we'd go 2-9 I think we'd have scoffed. We pick up two quick wins vs inferior teams (which there are statistically few of) and then go 3-2 against some low-tier PF teams, that's a 5-2 start, and now our 9 down is cut to 6 down. Much more manageable.

Next 11 games:
Nets (we should win) Wolves (should win) Raps (played close, split so far, 50-50), Pacers (even talent, could go either way) Magic (owned us, but lost key players, 50-50 shot here) Heat (Bosh is down, struggling team), Blazers (Varejao!), Celtics (split so far, could go either way), Pistons (another team we have split so far, lots of improvements, but must adjust), Nuggets (no excuses here), Suns (ironic Suns having fire sales), Clippers (now Lance-free! Easy loss).
Their is ONE game there where we don't have a chance. Strong effort, and good dice rolling, and we are back in the hunt. Particularly since we are playing SIX teams ahead of us in the playoff picture (not counting westerners).

I am confident that 10 games from now, we may be looking at a MUCH smaller gap. Unfortunately, I am not on the team, nor interacting with the team (unless they choose to read) so I cannot really share my vibe with them, but hopefully Phil breaks out his good stuff, got off his boney azz and spent time around the team in practice.

LETS GO KNICKS

hmm, looks like you took my advice from earlier.......

"you guys are better off coming up with new ways to justify Phil striking out again. We arent getting anything."


Playoffs is the least of my worries. I hoped like many here, that Phil would have an influence on people wanting to come help rebuild NY basketball. However all ive seen is people telling Phil no. Fishes was second maybe third choice, and you see what happens when you settle. Now he wants to give us a coach who is a known failure. and then in FA we had player chose DET over us. Imagine that, someone wanting to live in DET, over play with Phil and Melo. Again settling for FA's that were 3rd maybe 4th choices on the list, and again what happens when you settle.

Oh and with very little improvement you can imagine what were going to end up with in the coming FA. The cap can go up all it wants, but when Phil strikes out on all the big targets again, and we pay his 3rd and 4th option, first options money, and he goes back to LA, were gunna be stuck another 3-4 years before we can once again clear cap, and start over. But at least we have Melo to play 3/4 of a season every year.

Not signing Monroe was a blessing. His defense is non-existent

this too, we should worry that was #1 option.

[nykballa2k4]

Im glad your enjoying the season, and I wouldnt want to take that away from you. But writing down a bunch of names and their salary's doesnt change the fact that they suck. Lets hope the new coach proves me wrong. But i dont think God could coach these scrubs, and their contracts, to the playoffs. but we'll see. keep hoping eh ?

Think of it this way. Look at the Mets. Their team, on the field looked abysmal last season. They added 1, bat and Wright got healthy. That knocked everyone down to a better slot. Instead of 3 .200 guys in the back of the order, and .250 guys in the front, they put one big name in there and everyone moved into a more appropriate slot.

If you take our current core, we basically look a lot like a contender that is missing one of their big names. If CLE was without LeBron, TOR without Val, OKC without Durant/Westbrook(pick one), you'd have a roster similar to ours. Those teams are towards the top. If we were to wave a wand and magically get D-Wade on this team w/o giving up an asset, we may be a contender. IMO we area coach away from being the Pacers. I think our team is actually better/more talented than they are.

As much as everyone wants to say "9 games below, we have no chance" If someone said when we were .500 that we'd go 2-9 I think we'd have scoffed. We pick up two quick wins vs inferior teams (which there are statistically few of) and then go 3-2 against some low-tier PF teams, that's a 5-2 start, and now our 9 down is cut to 6 down. Much more manageable.

Next 11 games:
Nets (we should win) Wolves (should win) Raps (played close, split so far, 50-50), Pacers (even talent, could go either way) Magic (owned us, but lost key players, 50-50 shot here) Heat (Bosh is down, struggling team), Blazers (Varejao!), Celtics (split so far, could go either way), Pistons (another team we have split so far, lots of improvements, but must adjust), Nuggets (no excuses here), Suns (ironic Suns having fire sales), Clippers (now Lance-free! Easy loss).
Their is ONE game there where we don't have a chance. Strong effort, and good dice rolling, and we are back in the hunt. Particularly since we are playing SIX teams ahead of us in the playoff picture (not counting westerners).

I am confident that 10 games from now, we may be looking at a MUCH smaller gap. Unfortunately, I am not on the team, nor interacting with the team (unless they choose to read) so I cannot really share my vibe with them, but hopefully Phil breaks out his good stuff, got off his boney azz and spent time around the team in practice.

LETS GO KNICKS

hmm, looks like you took my advice from earlier.......

"you guys are better off coming up with new ways to justify Phil striking out again. We arent getting anything."


Playoffs is the least of my worries. I hoped like many here, that Phil would have an influence on people wanting to come help rebuild NY basketball. However all ive seen is people telling Phil no. Fishes was second maybe third choice, and you see what happens when you settle. Now he wants to give us a coach who is a known failure. and then in FA we had player chose DET over us. Imagine that, someone wanting to live in DET, over play with Phil and Melo. Again settling for FA's that were 3rd maybe 4th choices on the list, and again what happens when you settle.

Oh and with very little improvement you can imagine what were going to end up with in the coming FA. The cap can go up all it wants, but when Phil strikes out on all the big targets again, and we pay his 3rd and 4th option, first options money, and he goes back to LA, were gunna be stuck another 3-4 years before we can once again clear cap, and start over. But at least we have Melo to play 3/4 of a season every year.

There is nothing to justify. You can't bleed a stone. Phil has done something no other GM has done in NY for over 20 years. He has NOT TRADED 1ST ROUND PICKS. Whoever follows Phil will, if nothing else, not have to overcome that challenge. I think that a lot of players are going to receive short-term deals worth more than they are worth (2 years, 20 million for Marion Chalmers for example) because teams will be willing to get a rotation player, but won't want to commit a bizarre number to a bench player long term (and they will be almost REQUIRED to spend the money). So Phil won't be the only GM/Prez in odd territory this summer.

I believe you are alluding to striking out with Monroe with MIL (not DET). News Flash: NY did not offer Monroe the max. MIL offered more. In all honesty: would you trade Lopez and Seraphin for Monroe? I don't think you would... So there is no loss there.

Yea we missed on Kerr. I think anyone would pick that team over a rebuild. Kerr's success shows Phil's eye for talent (the opposite of the Monroe non-signing, then agian, we didn't offer Monroe the same deal he got, so ...).

Lastly you comment about Rambis. This is actually the trickiest situation. Phil/Rambis have a relationship. If Rambis falters, Phil has reason to pursue other candidates. If Rambis does "alright" Phil should still pursue other candidates, but he cannot require that his HC keep Rambis on staff the way he did to Fisher. That will be a fun follow.

Anyhow, have hope, and lets see where the chips fall.

[HarthorneWingo]

Wire Tap:
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/240863/Rockets-Will-Consider-Waiving-Ty-Lawson-If-No-Trade-Materializes

If he does, would it not be worth the gamble to sign him for the rest of the season?

The Knicks are 5 games removed from the playoffs, and they need to make a drastic move if they want have any chance of making it.

Cha po ben, shqiptare?

[Carl_Karlson]

Fuqqin waive him already!

[el13adnino]

ty isnt being waived
this ship has sailed

[moocow007]

Delonte West is available.

[dakomish23]

doesnt matter, from everything thats being reported, Phil has no interest, and likes taller PG's.

Proof that he only likes taller PGs?

[dakomish23]

Every thread turning into the pessimists taking shots at PJax and Melo.

Some things are so predictable

[Dr. Detfink]

Chris Duhon likes the move...

[vallen]

doesnt matter, from everything thats being reported, Phil has no interest, and likes taller PG's.

Proof that he only likes taller PGs?

Its been well documented through out his career. research your own coach. hes said it himself many times.

[nykfan42]

You're crazy if you think this guy would last in NY with his past. How many DWI's did this guy get? He'd be just like Earl when he was partying during the Pacers series. Nah....

[dakomish23]

doesnt matter, from everything thats being reported, Phil has no interest, and likes taller PG's.

Proof that he only likes taller PGs?

Its been well documented through out his career. research your own coach. hes said it himself many times.

BJ Armstrong 6-2
Hodges - 6-2
Kerr - 6-3
Fisher - 6-1
Calderon - 6-3

These are big PGs?

Nope. CHI went big at the position during the 2nd 3peat to match up with ORL.

[vallen]

Proof that he only likes taller PGs?

Its been well documented through out his career. research your own coach. hes said it himself many times.

BJ Armstrong 6-2
Hodges - 6-2
Kerr - 6-3
Fisher - 6-1
Calderon - 6-3

These are big PGs?

Nope. CHI went big at the position during the 2nd 3peat to match up with ORL.

yes all tall PG's. The triangle is about seeing the floor, and making passes, and you cant do that well when your 5'7. He doesnt like players that cant see over the defender. hes discussed this a million times when talking about the triangle.