The Trade-Mill - Trade Thread Part Infinity

[return2glory]

Happy they didn't deal picks for expiring contracts. Wish Ainge were able to deal expiring for picks. But, as things played out, teams didn't want guys who can't hit threes. I would be curious to know if Sullinger, Zeller, and Turner were being dangled as just jettison trades.

I'm disappointed we couldn't (or wouldn't) get Howard for non-BK picks.

I thought his addition to this group would have given this group a much better shot at upsetting Cleveland and generated a strong signal to free agents/wanderlusting older stars that we are looking to contend ASAP.

It's not devastating, but it does make us a little boring until the draft.

I'm glad we didn't get Dwight for two reasons:

1. He would be a rental. He would most likely leave in free agency because Ainge won't overpay him.
2. Our team chemistry is pretty good right now. Dwight would ruin that.

[ddb]

Danny has "plans" on how to use that Cap space. He wants Durant so bad lol.

Always thought there was no chance of this happening. Your thoughts?

Well there has already been hinting of a possible Ben Simmons-Anthony Davis swap.

If Boston gets #1 they are calling the Pelies about Davis. He would be PERFECT on this team. Absolutely perfect. Pelies probably still say no, but a man can wish

[djFan71]

Always thought there was no chance of this happening. Your thoughts?

Well there has already been hinting of a possible Ben Simmons-Anthony Davis swap.

If Boston gets #1 they are calling the Pelies about Davis. He would be PERFECT on this team. Absolutely perfect. Pelies probably still say no, but a man can wish

He would be. Wonder how many picks Danny would do? I'd empty the cupboards. All 3 BKN picks, 2016 DAL pick. Keep our own, MEM pick.

[31to6]

I'm sure people have said this but hopefully the Hawks have screwed up their chemistry.

[ddb]

To all those who give Boston 0% chanve at landing Durant, I present to you a few interesting tidbits....
What other organization is already really good, has the assets to acquire a Star AND will have the cap space to land a package deal of MAX players???
Boston is going to be very enticing for Durant if he decides to leave OKC, but still wants to be the MAN and win ships....of course Golden State could form a dream team, the Clippers can work out a S/T with Griffin, and Washington is his hometown...but Ainge has a relationship with Durant and can offer him something very unique.

Thomas-Butler-Durant-Jae-Horford with Smart-Turner-Hunter-Sully.....a team like that is of course a long shot, but POSSIBLE given the position Danny has created...

[bs_and_cs]

Well they tried but no one wanted to play ball for a reasonable price... at least according to Bulpett who I think is the most tuned-in Celtics writer at this point:

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/celtics/2016/02/bulpett_celtics_already_planning_on_how_to_improve_roster_this_summer

According to Herald sources, the Celtics did check on the availability of just about every major star, which is par for the course for most teams -- though in the case of the C’s they had the currency in picks and players to lessen the ‘are-you-kidding-me?’ factor.

Said one league exec, “It’s like they took the All-Star roster and used it as Match.com.”

In addition to those in the highest constellation, the Celts also looked into players such as Brooklyn’s Thaddeus Young. There was a report the C’s were talking about a three-team deal with Cleveland and New Orleans that would have netted them Kevin Love, but no such negotiations took place.

On to the rest of the season!

This makes me even more jaded.

I just don't think Danny Ainge can get us the star we need. We keep hearing him talk and asking everyone, but no one bites.

Ugh

[Ben-N1ce]

Well they tried but no one wanted to play ball for a reasonable price... at least according to Bulpett who I think is the most tuned-in Celtics writer at this point:

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/celtics/2016/02/bulpett_celtics_already_planning_on_how_to_improve_roster_this_summer

According to Herald sources, the Celtics did check on the availability of just about every major star, which is par for the course for most teams -- though in the case of the C’s they had the currency in picks and players to lessen the ‘are-you-kidding-me?’ factor.

Said one league exec, “It’s like they took the All-Star roster and used it as Match.com.”

In addition to those in the highest constellation, the Celts also looked into players such as Brooklyn’s Thaddeus Young. There was a report the C’s were talking about a three-team deal with Cleveland and New Orleans that would have netted them Kevin Love, but no such negotiations took place.

On to the rest of the season!

This makes me even more jaded.

I just don't think Danny Ainge can get us the star we need. We keep hearing him talk and asking everyone, but no one bites.

Ugh

So what you're saying is you'd give up every single pick for Blake or Cousins and players on top....

[Ben-N1ce]

Well they tried but no one wanted to play ball for a reasonable price... at least according to Bulpett who I think is the most tuned-in Celtics writer at this point:

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/celtics/2016/02/bulpett_celtics_already_planning_on_how_to_improve_roster_this_summer



On to the rest of the season!

This makes me even more jaded.

I just don't think Danny Ainge can get us the star we need. We keep hearing him talk and asking everyone, but no one bites.

Ugh

So what you're saying is you'd give up every single pick for Blake or Cousins and players on top....

Always thought there was no chance of this happening. Your thoughts?

Well there has already been hinting of a possible Ben Simmons-Anthony Davis swap.

If Boston gets #1 they are calling the Pelies about Davis. He would be PERFECT on this team. Absolutely perfect. Pelies probably still say no, but a man can wish

I'm sure the Pelicans will take the number one pick for a chance at a transcendent talent when they already have one ...

[ddb]

This makes me even more jaded.

I just don't think Danny Ainge can get us the star we need. We keep hearing him talk and asking everyone, but no one bites.

Ugh

So what you're saying is you'd give up every single pick for Blake or Cousins and players on top....

Well there has already been hinting of a possible Ben Simmons-Anthony Davis swap.

If Boston gets #1 they are calling the Pelies about Davis. He would be PERFECT on this team. Absolutely perfect. Pelies probably still say no, but a man can wish

I'm sure the Pelicans will take the number one pick for a chance at a transcendent talent when they already have one ...

Thats why this is a long shot. It would have to be a Godfather offer ala Hershel Walker.

[ConstableGeneva]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/RussJohnsonNBA/status/700458656496803840[/tweet]

Looks like Lee will be bought out ASAP.

WHEN IS THE DUCK BOAT PARADE?!

[Fencer reregistered]

To all those who give Boston 0% chanve at landing Durant, I present to you a few interesting tidbits....
What other organization is already really good, has the assets to acquire a Star AND will have the cap space to land a package deal of MAX players???
Boston is going to be very enticing for Durant if he decides to leave OKC, but still wants to be the MAN and win ships....of course Golden State could form a dream team, the Clippers can work out a S/T with Griffin, and Washington is his hometown...but Ainge has a relationship with Durant and can offer him something very unique.

Thomas-Butler-Durant-Jae-Horford with Smart-Turner-Hunter-Sully.....a team like that is of course a long shot, but POSSIBLE given the position Danny has created...

Yep. If Durant were willing to sign here, the Cs could make a Godfather offer for another player like the Cavs did for Love, also using only picks and non-rotation players.

And I think we have the better team than LeBron joined, even though that one had Irving, Thompson and Waiters. We'd probably also have more pick/trade assets left over after the dust settled than Cleveland did. And of course we have the better coach.

And it's definitely a better situation than Washington -- we both have a better team and more trade assets.

[Fencer reregistered]

To make it even simpler:

The Cs have the 7th-best team in the league. Of the ones above us, the Thunder don't count (they wouldn't be that good without him), and the others would have to sacrifice significant talent to add him.

[ConstableGeneva]

When David Lee gets bought out I would like to see the Celtics add a young big who rebounds. Maybe we should have a buyout topic?

A young big from where? Washed-up overpaid veterans are usually the ones who get bought out. Might as well just give Mickey his shot at being the 10th regular-rotation guy (spot that's for Zeller to lose).

[BfB]

On the plus side, what's important the rest of this season just got a lot clearer:

Be the team to knock Toronto out of the playoffs yet again, make the ECF, win a game, dispel the impression that we're "overachievers", establish ourselves as one of the clear best teams in the conference, with one of the youngest rosters and the most flexibility.

That's a tough row to hoe, but there's nothing else to set our sights on any longer - no more distractions.

We can do ourselves a lot of favors simply by finishing strong. Fate's in our own hands.

I disagree. Our fate is still in the hands of Brooklyn and, to a much lesser extent, Dallas.

Atlanta won 60 games last year and made it to the ECF. Does winning one game make Al want to sign on for more? Houston won 56 games and took a game off the Warriors in the WCF? Does doing the same in the East change his opinion?

I don't think we merit serious consideration from the star big man crop of free agents unless we can add a star prior to them. And doing that depends on the BK pick or maybe the Dallas pick having enough value to pull that other star.

I agree that a star would obviously increase the allure of joining BOS but I think you miss an very important point in your description of ATL and Horford. He was ON that team that went to the ECF. Your hope as the Celtics making some noise in the playoffs with essentially no star is that Horford (or Star X)'s ego tells them that they are the piece to put them over the top especially with the fact that its a young, up and coming team. If their ego doesn't tell them that than you sell them on it.

BOS will be plenty attractive come the summer. BOS has been winning the hearts and minds campaign they began last year.

This has been a team building strategy that compounds over time as long as the team keeps improving.

In any case, BOS Laid the groundwork for a potential Blake acquisition - enough so that they decided holding their assets for a shot at Griffin was worth punting on any available

[robbie84]

To all those who give Boston 0% chanve at landing Durant, I present to you a few interesting tidbits....
What other organization is already really good, has the assets to acquire a Star AND will have the cap space to land a package deal of MAX players???
Boston is going to be very enticing for Durant if he decides to leave OKC, but still wants to be the MAN and win ships....of course Golden State could form a dream team, the Clippers can work out a S/T with Griffin, and Washington is his hometown...but Ainge has a relationship with Durant and can offer him something very unique.

Thomas-Butler-Durant-Jae-Horford with Smart-Turner-Hunter-Sully.....a team like that is of course a long shot, but POSSIBLE given the position Danny has created...

I've said this all along too.
The West is going to be brutal for the next 5 years- just getting to the WCF will be a nightmare. The East really only has the Cavs as a true contender.
Durant joining us would make another true contender and we have the coach, the GM, the 'team first' attitude that Durant loves.
Durant is the perfect star for us because he doesn't care about weather or Hollywood factor. He cares about winning basketball and the fact that we"
*Have the most championships
*were the first organization to draft an African American in the league (something I think the Celtics need to mention more often to try and shed the weird/misplaced tag that we are a 'white' town.)
*Are in the weak East with a team of gritty, hard working defenders

All play into our favor.

We're getting a sit down with him and it will be a real decision for him when he's talking to Danny Ainge, Bill Russell, and some other Celtics legends. Hopefully Pierce will be there too working for us.

[BfB]

To all those who give Boston 0% chanve at landing Durant, I present to you a few interesting tidbits....
What other organization is already really good, has the assets to acquire a Star AND will have the cap space to land a package deal of MAX players???
Boston is going to be very enticing for Durant if he decides to leave OKC, but still wants to be the MAN and win ships....of course Golden State could form a dream team, the Clippers can work out a S/T with Griffin, and Washington is his hometown...but Ainge has a relationship with Durant and can offer him something very unique.

Thomas-Butler-Durant-Jae-Horford with Smart-Turner-Hunter-Sully.....a team like that is of course a long shot, but POSSIBLE given the position Danny has created...

Yep. If Durant were willing to sign here, the Cs could make a Godfather offer for another player like the Cavs did for Love, also using only picks and non-rotation players.

And I think we have the better team than LeBron joined, even though that one had Irving, Thompson and Waiters. We'd probably also have more pick/trade assets left over after the dust settled than Cleveland did. And of course we have the better coach.

And it's definitely a better situation than Washington -- we both have a better team and more trade assets.

Not that simple, unfortunately...

They'll get a meeting with KD if he doesn't do a one year deal with OKC, but you'd have to make the Blake deal on draft night to have a real shot.

BOS will be able to add talent. The BKN pick slot and their predraft negotiations will determine a lot of what comes next.

[BfB]

To all those who give Boston 0% chanve at landing Durant, I present to you a few interesting tidbits....
What other organization is already really good, has the assets to acquire a Star AND will have the cap space to land a package deal of MAX players???
Boston is going to be very enticing for Durant if he decides to leave OKC, but still wants to be the MAN and win ships....of course Golden State could form a dream team, the Clippers can work out a S/T with Griffin, and Washington is his hometown...but Ainge has a relationship with Durant and can offer him something very unique.

Thomas-Butler-Durant-Jae-Horford with Smart-Turner-Hunter-Sully.....a team like that is of course a long shot, but POSSIBLE given the position Danny has created...

I've said this all along too.
The West is going to be brutal for the next 5 years- just getting to the WCF will be a nightmare. The East really only has the Cavs as a true contender.
Durant joining us would make another true contender and we have the coach, the GM, the 'team first' attitude that Durant loves.
Durant is the perfect star for us because he doesn't care about weather or Hollywood factor. He cares about winning basketball and the fact that we"
*Have the most championships
*were the first organization to draft an African American in the league (something I think the Celtics need to mention more often to try and shed the weird/misplaced tag that we are a 'white' town.)
*Are in the weak East with a team of gritty, hard working defenders

All play into our favor.

We're getting a sit down with him and it will be a real decision for him when he's talking to Danny Ainge, Bill Russell, and some other Celtics legends. Hopefully Pierce will be there too working for us.

Its still an order of operations thing - gotta get a major impact player first to convince KD he isnt just forming another OKC.

However, forgot to mention that Jimmy Butler may be available in trade this summer as well.

CHI gave off indications that they may reset the whole chessboard. Everything's on the table with them.

[Fencer reregistered]

Up to a point, you're right.

Picks generally have more value before they're actually used; the Wiggins pick was an exception in that regard.

Worse, we're not likely to get Blake Griffin or even Kevin Love directly for picks. It would be more a matter of their current teams giving us a shopping list of players, and us using our picks to buy those.

To all those who give Boston 0% chanve at landing Durant, I present to you a few interesting tidbits....
What other organization is already really good, has the assets to acquire a Star AND will have the cap space to land a package deal of MAX players???
Boston is going to be very enticing for Durant if he decides to leave OKC, but still wants to be the MAN and win ships....of course Golden State could form a dream team, the Clippers can work out a S/T with Griffin, and Washington is his hometown...but Ainge has a relationship with Durant and can offer him something very unique.

Thomas-Butler-Durant-Jae-Horford with Smart-Turner-Hunter-Sully.....a team like that is of course a long shot, but POSSIBLE given the position Danny has created...

Yep. If Durant were willing to sign here, the Cs could make a Godfather offer for another player like the Cavs did for Love, also using only picks and non-rotation players.

And I think we have the better team than LeBron joined, even though that one had Irving, Thompson and Waiters. We'd probably also have more pick/trade assets left over after the dust settled than Cleveland did. And of course we have the better coach.

And it's definitely a better situation than Washington -- we both have a better team and more trade assets.

Not that simple, unfortunately...

They'll get a meeting with KD if he doesn't do a one year deal with OKC, but you'd have to make the Blake deal on draft night to have a real shot.

BOS will be able to add talent. The BKN pick slot and their predraft negotiations will determine a lot of what comes next.

[Fencer reregistered]

I suspect that Avery may be a better player on a good team than a bad one, to a greater extent than is true for most other players.. When basketballs and bodies are moving as they should, he plays intelligently as well. When they aren't, he has little idea how to salvage or improve a play.

If other teams agree, he may not be the guy to send back in a Jimmy Butler kind of trade.

[165bows]

Suns currently in line for pick #12 this year from Washington for Markieff.

Oof.