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Off-Season Plan 

Post#1 » by LakersLegacy » Fri Feb 19, 2016 9:56 am

Off-Season Plan
What are Mitch's white board plans?
What free agents should we target?
What trades should we try to make?
Should we get a new coach?

Obviously Lakers Nation will get our good luck charms ready for ping pong ball night and we hope to keep our pick.

I think we may make some near max offers. I don't think Durant is coming. Durant won't let Stephen A be correct. Ha. We have room for 2 max free agents. I think we should offer a lot of money - near max for to Derozen and 4th year champion Barnes. Both have LA ties. I think management will want to get some players to sell tickets after Kobe.

I would like to hire Luke (who loves LA) or Thibbs as coach. Scott hasn't developed the young players enough.

I'm fine with resigning Hibbert and Clarkson. Does anyone know the max Clarkson can get offered this off-season?

Thanks for any input. I know it's early but I bet Mitch is already thinking about these things.
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Post#2 » by Sofa King » Fri Feb 19, 2016 12:47 pm

LakersLegacy wrote:What are Mitch's white board plans?


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LakersLegacy wrote:What free agents should we target?


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LakersLegacy wrote:What trades should we try to make?


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LakersLegacy wrote:Should we get a new coach?


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Post#3 » by TylersLakers » Fri Feb 19, 2016 3:48 pm

My free agent priorities:

Durant
DeRozan
Al Horford
Mike Conley

While reaching out to those people, have agreements with Nicholas Batum and possibly Joakim Noah as well. Use them as a selling point for those 4 main guys. And even if those four don't agree with us or sign, we still have pieces that can grow with our core. Maybe not as much with Noah, he's more of a present type of guy, but I love everything that he stands for on the court. It was his work ethic, his tenacity and his fire that lead the Gators in 2006 and 2007, and he could be a GREAT mentor to Julius. And he also has gas left in the tank for a couple years, so he's not useless on the court either.
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Post#4 » by DNP-Old » Fri Feb 19, 2016 5:17 pm

TylersLakers wrote:My free agent priorities:

Durant
DeRozan
Al Horford
Mike Conley

While reaching out to those people, have agreements with Nicholas Batum and possibly Joakim Noah as well. Use them as a selling point for those 4 main guys. And even if those four don't agree with us or sign, we still have pieces that can grow with our core. Maybe not as much with Noah, he's more of a present type of guy, but I love everything that he stands for on the court. It was his work ethic, his tenacity and his fire that lead the Gators in 2006 and 2007, and he could be a GREAT mentor to Julius. And he also has gas left in the tank for a couple years, so he's not useless on the court either.


If LAL has agreements with Batum and Noah (and I like both - although I am not sure about Noah because of his age) they will of committed 35-40m of their cap space leaving room for one of your priority players. LAL with the addition of Batum, Noah and anyone on your list is not a contending team. So, why would any of them commit to that when they will all have numerous options. If LAL keeps the young core together they aren't going to contend for a couple of years. It takes time (years) for young players to get to that level, especially as a group.

I prefer Batum, Whiteside and Bazemore as the targets and sell them on what the can be in a couple of years...
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Re: Off-Season Plan 

Post#5 » by myersia » Fri Feb 19, 2016 5:51 pm

My offseason is pretty simple. Build and actual team that won't lose 40+ games :lol: . The west is packed I get that. But this tanking is old and outdated. Now Kobe's contract will be off the books. Time to do some serious work. Let's have a team actually fight for the 8th seed next year. I'll even take 10th place if we are fighting. No more one year signings and scrub players. Let's take some risks finally and clean house. I don't care if it will be hard to replace Mitch. We need to start over in our organization. New blood please. New philosophy and...oh yeah a new coach would sound about right. Nothing of the old. No Phil. No Mitch. No Jim. Let's adjust with the times and become what the NBA is today. That is all.
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Re: Off-Season Plan 

Post#6 » by LApwnd » Fri Feb 19, 2016 6:18 pm

If luke is hired and we draft ingram
-sign lance to 2yrs 6mill/yr, tm opt yr 2
-max out whiteside
-trade randle somehow to whoever drafts bender
-max horford
-offer noah 3yrs 30mill, tm opt yr 3
-resign jc
-trade lou

Dlo/jc
Lance/jc
Ingram/ nance
Horford/ nance/bender (bring him alo g slowly)
Whiteside/noah/bender
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Re: Off-Season Plan 

Post#7 » by Jon Snow » Fri Feb 19, 2016 6:29 pm

Start fresh. Build a core surrounding the young lings. Don't mess up the meetings especially if they are pushing hard for Durant. Focus on the basketball side. Get a coach who can lead this team up until LA becomes title contenders and won't mess up with the young ling's development.
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Post#8 » by thegamefritz » Fri Feb 19, 2016 6:36 pm

IN ORDER
#1. COACH:
Luke
Thibs
Hollins
#2 Free Agents:
C-Whiteside (max)/Mozgov/Horford (near max)/Noah/Mahinmi
SF-Batum (near max)/Try BARNES (RFA)/Deng
PG (back up) Chalmers Vasquez

#3 Resign
Clarkson

#4 Do not resign:
Sacre, Kelly, Hibbert (for vet min ok to resign), MWP

#5 draft (hope we keep the pick)
Ingram
Simmons

#6 Trade
Swaggy for a bag of chips

#7 options
sign black or bring Upshaw


DREAM line up
C-Whiteside/Noah/Bass
PF-Randle/Nance/
SF-Barnes/Ingram/A. brown
SG- Clarkson/ Ingram
PG-Russell/ Lou

Best Possibility
C-Whiteside/Black/Bass
PF-Randle/Nance/
SF-Batum/Ingram/A. brown
SG- Clarkson/ Ingram
PG-Russell/ Lou

Average Possibilty
C-Whiteside/Black/Bass
PF-Randle/Nance/
SF-Deng/Ingram/A. brown
SG- Clarkson/ Ingram
PG-Russell/ Lou

I'm fine (what can we do)
C-Mozgov/Hibbert/Bass
PF-Randle/Simmons
SF-Deng/Nance/A. brown
SG- Clarkson/ Lou
PG-Russell/ Chalmers

Badluck
C-Mahinmi/black/Bass
PF-Randle/Nance/
SF-Deng/A. brown/swaggy
SG- Clarkson/ Lou
PG-Russell/ Vasquez
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Re: Off-Season Plan 

Post#9 » by TKainZero » Fri Feb 19, 2016 6:42 pm

thegamefritz wrote:#2 Free Agents:
C-Whiteside (max)/Mozgov/Horford (near max)/Noah/Mahinmi


I like that all. But I am not so sure about Whiteside.
he may be fools gold. His on/off splits and his assists terrify me.
USA Celtics in full effect. Amazing chemistry building experience right there for the main core of the team


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Re: Off-Season Plan 

Post#10 » by TylersLakers » Fri Feb 19, 2016 6:49 pm

rsrii wrote:
TylersLakers wrote:My free agent priorities:

Durant
DeRozan
Al Horford
Mike Conley

While reaching out to those people, have agreements with Nicholas Batum and possibly Joakim Noah as well. Use them as a selling point for those 4 main guys. And even if those four don't agree with us or sign, we still have pieces that can grow with our core. Maybe not as much with Noah, he's more of a present type of guy, but I love everything that he stands for on the court. It was his work ethic, his tenacity and his fire that lead the Gators in 2006 and 2007, and he could be a GREAT mentor to Julius. And he also has gas left in the tank for a couple years, so he's not useless on the court either.


If LAL has agreements with Batum and Noah (and I like both - although I am not sure about Noah because of his age) they will of committed 35-40m of their cap space leaving room for one of your priority players. LAL with the addition of Batum, Noah and anyone on your list is not a contending team. So, why would any of them commit to that when they will all have numerous options. If LAL keeps the young core together they aren't going to contend for a couple of years. It takes time (years) for young players to get to that level, especially as a group.

I prefer Batum, Whiteside and Bazemore as the targets and sell them on what the can be in a couple of years...


I don't prefer Whiteside. He seems like an idiot. Some of the quotes and stories that have come out just reek of a guy who's going to get a whole bunch of money and mail it in. I would pass.

And 35-40M? I don't think those two combined will get quite that much.

Noah will go for 8-10M in today's market, 3 year deal.

Batum, I could see getting around 18-20M. 5 years ago it would have been 10M, but I think he'll get 18-20. I would say 30M is a better number to look at with those two combined. Which would still give us a max slot available.

By the way, regarding Bazemore, I'd be all in on him but I just can't see it happening unless Lou Williams and Nick Young are traded. Having Clarkson, Russell, Lou Williams, Nick Young and Bazemore is just too much wasted money when you only need 3 of them.

Would love a 3 guard rotation of Russell/Bazemore and Clarkson off the bench. That would be perfect. Ship off Lou Williams and Nick Young somewhere.

My realistic dream:

D'Angelo Russell/ Clarkson
Kent Bazemore
Nicholas Batum/ Ingram
Julius Randle/ Nance Jr
Al Horford/ Noah

That's a great 9 man rotation.
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Re: Off-Season Plan 

Post#11 » by Jon Snow » Fri Feb 19, 2016 9:32 pm

I would be really glad to bring Bazemore back at the right price if we traded Lou-Will. I was so pissed when we let him go. Turned out for him so well.
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Post#12 » by bah humbug » Fri Feb 19, 2016 11:21 pm

Jon Snow wrote:I would be really glad to bring Bazemore back at the right price if we traded Lou-Will. I was so pissed when we let him go. Turned out for him so well.


id rather give bazemore 10-12/per than max out someone like barnes.
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Post#13 » by bah humbug » Fri Feb 19, 2016 11:36 pm

if we can't get luke walton or thibs, I want us to see if we can convince battier to do it. the guy is huge on analytics (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/25081424/video-no-surprise-but-shane-battier-believes-analytics-helped-him-stop-kobe). i think he would be one of the rare coaches in the nba that could bring X's and O's as well as great leadership.
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Re: Off-Season Plan 

Post#14 » by Swoop4 » Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:43 am

TylersLakers wrote:
rsrii wrote:
TylersLakers wrote:My free agent priorities:

Durant
DeRozan
Al Horford
Mike Conley

While reaching out to those people, have agreements with Nicholas Batum and possibly Joakim Noah as well. Use them as a selling point for those 4 main guys. And even if those four don't agree with us or sign, we still have pieces that can grow with our core. Maybe not as much with Noah, he's more of a present type of guy, but I love everything that he stands for on the court. It was his work ethic, his tenacity and his fire that lead the Gators in 2006 and 2007, and he could be a GREAT mentor to Julius. And he also has gas left in the tank for a couple years, so he's not useless on the court either.


If LAL has agreements with Batum and Noah (and I like both - although I am not sure about Noah because of his age) they will of committed 35-40m of their cap space leaving room for one of your priority players. LAL with the addition of Batum, Noah and anyone on your list is not a contending team. So, why would any of them commit to that when they will all have numerous options. If LAL keeps the young core together they aren't going to contend for a couple of years. It takes time (years) for young players to get to that level, especially as a group.

I prefer Batum, Whiteside and Bazemore as the targets and sell them on what the can be in a couple of years...


I don't prefer Whiteside. He seems like an idiot. Some of the quotes and stories that have come out just reek of a guy who's going to get a whole bunch of money and mail it in. I would pass.

And 35-40M? I don't think those two combined will get quite that much.

Noah will go for 8-10M in today's market, 3 year deal.

Batum, I could see getting around 18-20M. 5 years ago it would have been 10M, but I think he'll get 18-20. I would say 30M is a better number to look at with those two combined. Which would still give us a max slot available.

By the way, regarding Bazemore, I'd be all in on him but I just can't see it happening unless Lou Williams and Nick Young are traded. Having Clarkson, Russell, Lou Williams, Nick Young and Bazemore is just too much wasted money when you only need 3 of them.

Would love a 3 guard rotation of Russell/Bazemore and Clarkson off the bench. That would be perfect. Ship off Lou Williams and Nick Young somewhere.

My realistic dream:

D'Angelo Russell/ Clarkson
Kent Bazemore
Nicholas Batum/ Ingram
Julius Randle/ Nance Jr
Al Horford/ Noah

That's a great 9 man rotation.


I really like this. Normally I'd cringe at Noah for 8 million but honestly with the new cap inflation is going to be a thing.
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Re: Off-Season Plan 

Post#15 » by DNP-Old » Mon Feb 22, 2016 3:20 am

TylersLakers wrote:
rsrii wrote:
TylersLakers wrote:My free agent priorities:

Durant
DeRozan
Al Horford
Mike Conley

While reaching out to those people, have agreements with Nicholas Batum and possibly Joakim Noah as well. Use them as a selling point for those 4 main guys. And even if those four don't agree with us or sign, we still have pieces that can grow with our core. Maybe not as much with Noah, he's more of a present type of guy, but I love everything that he stands for on the court. It was his work ethic, his tenacity and his fire that lead the Gators in 2006 and 2007, and he could be a GREAT mentor to Julius. And he also has gas left in the tank for a couple years, so he's not useless on the court either.


If LAL has agreements with Batum and Noah (and I like both - although I am not sure about Noah because of his age) they will of committed 35-40m of their cap space leaving room for one of your priority players. LAL with the addition of Batum, Noah and anyone on your list is not a contending team. So, why would any of them commit to that when they will all have numerous options. If LAL keeps the young core together they aren't going to contend for a couple of years. It takes time (years) for young players to get to that level, especially as a group.

I prefer Batum, Whiteside and Bazemore as the targets and sell them on what the can be in a couple of years...


I don't prefer Whiteside. He seems like an idiot. Some of the quotes and stories that have come out just reek of a guy who's going to get a whole bunch of money and mail it in. I would pass.

And 35-40M? I don't think those two combined will get quite that much.

Noah will go for 8-10M in today's market, 3 year deal.

Batum, I could see getting around 18-20M. 5 years ago it would have been 10M, but I think he'll get 18-20. I would say 30M is a better number to look at with those two combined. Which would still give us a max slot available.

By the way, regarding Bazemore, I'd be all in on him but I just can't see it happening unless Lou Williams and Nick Young are traded. Having Clarkson, Russell, Lou Williams, Nick Young and Bazemore is just too much wasted money when you only need 3 of them.

Would love a 3 guard rotation of Russell/Bazemore and Clarkson off the bench. That would be perfect. Ship off Lou Williams and Nick Young somewhere.

My realistic dream:

D'Angelo Russell/ Clarkson
Kent Bazemore
Nicholas Batum/ Ingram
Julius Randle/ Nance Jr
Al Horford/ Noah

That's a great 9 man rotation.


I think you under estimate the dollars these players are going to get, but time will tell. I think Batum will get at least 20m, Noah 15m and Horford 25m. I do like your "nine", however, unless LAL are the highest bidders, I don't see Horford or Noah coming as LAL will be still a few years away from contending
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Post#16 » by gts1 » Mon Feb 22, 2016 3:31 am

So much money out there next summer... It's going to be insane, cap going up 25 million this summer, another 20+ the following summer and not enough quality free agents to go around. There's some players that are going to be getting $$$ they never dreamed of seeing in their entire career let alone one contract.

It's going to be really hard to land quality players because nearly every team is going to have money to spend, the Lakers one advantage is the amount of cap room we'll have available but still... A player like Durant will have the pick of the litter so to speak so it'll be interesting to see what he's looking for. Personally I see him staying in OKC but who knows...

Coach, meh we'll see.. Scott could stay on board, Brooks if it brings Durant into the fold.. Walton is a long shot, I think he'll stay with the Warriors to see how Kerr's health unfolds but if he were to leave I think the Lakers do have to be one of the front runners at landing him. Thibs.. yuck keep him as far away from our young players as possible, last thing we need is a guy who thinks of players as a expendable commodity.

Player movement wise, who really knows.. For me, obviously the first step is going after the prime players first.. if that strikes out plan B would be to fill out the roster with players that compliment our 5 kids and avoid signing mid level talent that'll be a pain in the ass to move in a couple years when the Cap balances out and things go back to normal albeit with larger numbers, in other words be fiscally responsible, don't start over paying for players just because others are, if the guy's an MLE player this year he's a MLE player next year (just at a higher rate)... course all this should be done with an eye on the next CBA negotiations which will begin in 2017 when the NBA opts out

For the next two maybe 3 summers expiring contracts will be basically with worthless, nobody will be worried about clearing cap space so much $$$ floating around.. old style player contracts with one, two or three years left on them will be the hot commodity along with draft picks...

it'll be interesting to say the least, going to be lots of heads shaking by fans as they come to grips with the reality of the new NBA value system.. at least for a couple years until as I said the pendulum swings the other way and balances everything out
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Re: Off-Season Plan 

Post#17 » by lelelazza8 » Tue Feb 23, 2016 2:34 pm

1.... Fire B.Scott
2.... Hire L.Walton
3.... save the pick and select Ingram... with 32nd pick select AJ Hammonds...
4.... trade N.Young for....
5.... sign two big deal...a C and a SF... Whiteside or Horford... Durant or Derozan or H.Barnes or Batum...
6.... resign J.Clarkson...
7.... sign back up PG, back up SG and back up C... Sessions,Augustin or Blake...Moore, Temple... Ja.Thompson...

Whiteside (or Horford)/Ja.Thompson/Hammonds
Randle/Bass/Nance Jr
Durant (or another big FA)/Ingram/A.Brown
J.Clarkson/Williams/Temple
Russell/Augustin

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