Discuss Ernie Grunfeld's GM skills here (Part 2)

[milellie111]

Anyone care to rate Ernie's GM skills in light of the Morris trade?

The "grading the deal article" on the Suns side:
http://basketball.realgm.com/analysis/240899/Grading-The-Deal-Wizards-Trade-For-Markieff-Morris

To get a First Round pick of any sort is terrific value.

This means quite clearly that EG was overpaying.

Maybe the Wizards are caught in a web of blackmail. EG having incriminating evidence on Ted is the only reason I can think that he would still be employed. Given how easily EG has given picks to the Suns, I think someone there may have something on EG.

What a deal for the Suns, they unload a player nobody wanted for expirings AND they get mid first-rounder from us. Former Suns East.

Lookup Morris' stats for the month of February. Averaging 20.6 ppg and alomost 8 rebounds. Monumental move by Ernie.

[montestewart]

Anyone care to rate Ernie's GM skills in light of the Morris trade?

Troll.

Trollol.

Trollollollollollollollolloll (deck the halls with Ernie's balls)

[TheSecretWeapon]

The "grading the deal article" on the Suns side:
http://basketball.realgm.com/analysis/240899/Grading-The-Deal-Wizards-Trade-For-Markieff-Morris


This means quite clearly that EG was overpaying.

Maybe the Wizards are caught in a web of blackmail. EG having incriminating evidence on Ted is the only reason I can think that he would still be employed. Given how easily EG has given picks to the Suns, I think someone there may have something on EG.

What a deal for the Suns, they unload a player nobody wanted for expirings AND they get mid first-rounder from us. Former Suns East.

Lookup Morris' stats for the month of February. Averaging 20.6 ppg and alomost 8 rebounds. Monumental move by Ernie.

Yeah. He did that for FIVE WHOLE GAMES!!!

Although, his offensive rating was a below-average 102 points per 100 possessions. And his rebounding rate was below average too. But, yay points.

[penbeast0]

I'm trying not to comment in this thread because my grandmother always used to tell me, "If you can't talk about something without using a lot of profanity, it's better not to get into it," or something like that.

[Upper Decker]

I never thought I'd ever question a GM being worse than Vinny Cerrato, but based on Grunfeld history of blowing nearly all non top-3 picks, all of his 2nd round picks, and not valuing picks in questionable trades (a staple of the cerrato era), is Grunfeld a worse GM than Cerrato?

[Silvie Lysandra]

Yes, Grunfeld is worse than Cerrato. A lot worse.

The question is is Ted worse than Snyder? Ted's certainly going all in on the Snyder strategy of making awful short term moves to bring in revenue through hype. Ted has also had absolutely extraordinary luck as well.

[Kanyewest]

I never thought I'd ever question a GM being worse than Vinny Cerrato, but based on Grunfeld history of blowing nearly all non top-3 picks, all of his 2nd round picks, and not valuing picks in questionable trades (a staple of the cerrato era), is Grunfeld a worse GM than Cerrato?

EG is better than Cerrato simply based on some of EG's moves between 2003-2005.

[milellie111]

Many were scratching their heads on the Markieff Morris trade and were hot Grunfeld didn't trade for David Lee. Yet Morris looks active, motivated and is contributing not even 2 days after being traded without practice with the team. David Lee was CUT by the Celtics today. Pretty smart for Grunfeld not to deal for Lee.

[TheSecretWeapon]

Many were scratching their heads on the Markieff Morris trade and were hot Grunfeld didn't trade for David Lee. Yet Morris looks active, motivated and is contributing not even 2 days after being traded without practice with the team. David Lee was CUT by the Celtics today. Pretty smart for Grunfeld not to deal for Lee.

"Many"?

I can't think of one person who was upset Grunfeld didn't trade for David Lee.

[closg00]

Only Rico was enticed by Lee. You want to high-five Ernie for not trading for Lee !?! What can I say.

[TheSecretWeapon]

Only Rico was enticed by Lee. You want to high-five Ernie for not trading for Lee !?! What can I say.

Call prolly went something like:

GRUNFELD: Hi Danny. Want to make a deal?

AINGE (stifles a giggle): Sure, buddy. What do you have in mind?

GRUNFELD: Was thinking about Blair and Humphries for Lee.

AINGE: Ernie...buddy...I'd love to help you out pal...hang on a sec...

GRUNFELD (to Tommy Sheppard): I think he's crying.

AINGE: If you could throw in a little, teeny bit more, we could let you have Lee.

GRUNFELD: Umm...more?

AINGE: A first round pick.

GRUNFELD: Umm, okay.

Hysterical laughter blasts through the phone from Ainge's side.

GRUNFELD: Danny?

More laughter.

A new voice. It's Mike Zarren, Ainge's number two in Boston.

ZARREN: Danny, you gotta tell him no.

AINGE: C'mon, Mike. I'm about to get a first for an actual corpse.

ZARREN: Say no. Save the swindle for something more important.

AINGE: All right. You're right.

Hey Ernie, buddy.

GRUNFELD: Heya, Danny. You okay?

AINGE: Doing just fine. Gonna have to say no on this one, pal. But hey, make sure you call me first next time you have a trade idea.

GRUNFELD: Sure thing Danny.

[Ed Wood]

I confess, I have been outed and so further attempts to suppress the truth are futile.

It was I that was hot that EG didn't trade for David Lee. Soooo.... HOT.

What can I say, bad trades no one wants that EG doesn't make badly do it for me, you know? We're all friends here; don't make it weird.

[montestewart]

Many were scratching their heads on the Markieff Morris trade and were hot Grunfeld didn't trade for David Lee. Yet Morris looks active, motivated and is contributing not even 2 days after being traded without practice with the team. David Lee was CUT by the Celtics today. Pretty smart for Grunfeld not to deal for Lee.

HOF and jumped the shark in one post.

[queridiculo]

Many were scratching their heads on the Markieff Morris trade and were hot Grunfeld didn't trade for David Lee. Yet Morris looks active, motivated and is contributing not even 2 days after being traded without practice with the team. David Lee was CUT by the Celtics today. Pretty smart for Grunfeld not to deal for Lee.

HOF and jumped the shark in one post.

Also great use of the straw man construction kit.

[pineappleheadindc]

Many were scratching their heads on the Markieff Morris trade and were hot Grunfeld didn't re-sign Jan Vesely. Yet Morris looks active, motivated and is contributing not even 2 days after being traded without practice with the team. And Jan is playing ball in Europe and moonlighting as a bagger at the local Safeway.

Yay Ernie -- great judgement!

GPDW 4EVA!!!!

[FAH1223]

We could have drafted Morris in 2011.

[payitforward]

Many were scratching their heads on the Markieff Morris trade and were hot Grunfeld didn't trade for David Lee. Yet Morris looks active, motivated and is contributing not even 2 days after being traded without practice with the team. David Lee was CUT by the Celtics today. Pretty smart for Grunfeld not to deal for Lee.

*No one* suggested we trade for David Lee -- literally no one. Do you even read the threads before barfing into them?

What was discussed was that the Celtics were about to waive Lee, and should we then pick him up cheap for the rest of the season, which Dallas has done. Those fools who run Dallas! Didn't they realize they could have traded for Markieff Morris instead of their stupid move picking up Lee? What a badly-managed franchise! They sure aren't on the ball. Not like the perennially successful Wizards under Ernie's unparalleled leadership.

Note, btw, that I said "no no -- don't pick up a waived David Lee." But I didn't mean that instead we should trade for Markieff Morris, who has been active, sure, if by that you mean 5 fouls in 16 minutes and 2-6 shooting and no trips to the line.

[nuposse04]

Many were scratching their heads on the Markieff Morris trade and were hot Grunfeld didn't trade for David Lee. Yet Morris looks active, motivated and is contributing not even 2 days after being traded without practice with the team. David Lee was CUT by the Celtics today. Pretty smart for Grunfeld not to deal for Lee.

[closg00]

We could have drafted Morris in 2011.

Doesn't that sum it all up. Ouch!!

[montestewart]

We could have drafted Morris in 2011.

Then everyone would have been whining that they should have drafted Kawhi or Faried. No, the right thing to do was draft Vesely and trade a pick later for Morris. Players picked after #9 never amount to anything.

EG played the odds with the long game in mind, catching lightening in a bottle. He who hesitates is lost, and why put off until tomorrow what you can accomplish today? A bird in hand is worth two in the bush, and EG killed two birds (location unclear) with one stone. A penny saved is a penny earned, stand near the fire and you'll get burned. Don't count your chickens before they hatch, one bad apple don't spoil the batch. Keep your chin up, but watch your step.

And, as EG always says, "The past is history, the future's a mystery, so sit on my fistory." Words well spoken.